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Flaccomania
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| SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | | FlaccoForever wrote: | | Quote: | gerrysandusky Gerry Sandusky
John Harbaugh lined up at cornerback in one drill today to demonstrate a technique. Asked how he felt there, the coach said, "embarrassed."
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Ironically, that's the same answer Harbaugh gives whenever he's asked "How does it feel knowing you come from a ST background, yet have one of the worst ST units in the league?" |
I guess Bill Belichick is embarassed that he has an extensive defensive background and just fielded the 2nd worst defense in NFL history?
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Cam Cameron said that Dean Pees was the toughest Def. Coordinator he's ever had to go up against.
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Pees will have to prove that on the field but privately the players love him (per Aaron Wilson) and for those who keep comparing him to Greg Mattison just STOP. Mattison had one year of coaching experience in the NFL so it's no surprise he didn't set the world on fire in 2009 with a makeshift group of corners and a lack of experience. Pees has been coaching in the NFL since 2004 when he started of course with the Patriots under the best coach in the NFL in Bill Belicheck. Pees has better talent to work with which allows him to be more creative. He also has a better relationship with the players than Mattison did, they also privately lobbied for Pees to be the next D-Coordinator when Pagano left. |
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| FlaccoForever wrote: | | Quote: | ravens Baltimore Ravens
Cam Cameron said that Dean Pees was the toughest Def. Coordinator he's ever had to go up against.
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Pees will have to prove that on the field but privately the players love him (per Aaron Wilson) and for those who keep comparing him to Greg Mattison just STOP. Mattison had one year of coaching experience in the NFL so it's no surprise he didn't set the world on fire in 2009 with a makeshift group of corners and a lack of experience. Pees has been coaching in the NFL since 2004 when he started of course with the Patriots under the best coach in the NFL in Bill Belicheck. Pees has better talent to work with which allows him to be more creative. He also has a better relationship with the players than Mattison did, they also privately lobbied for Pees to be the next D-Coordinator when Pagano left. |
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| drd23 wrote: | | FlaccoForever wrote: | | Quote: | ravens Baltimore Ravens
Cam Cameron said that Dean Pees was the toughest Def. Coordinator he's ever had to go up against.
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Pees will have to prove that on the field but privately the players love him (per Aaron Wilson) and for those who keep comparing him to Greg Mattison just STOP. Mattison had one year of coaching experience in the NFL so it's no surprise he didn't set the world on fire in 2009 with a makeshift group of corners and a lack of experience. Pees has been coaching in the NFL since 2004 when he started of course with the Patriots under the best coach in the NFL in Bill Belicheck. Pees has better talent to work with which allows him to be more creative. He also has a better relationship with the players than Mattison did, they also privately lobbied for Pees to be the next D-Coordinator when Pagano left. |
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| FlaccoForever wrote: | | Quote: | ravens Baltimore Ravens
Cam Cameron said that Dean Pees was the toughest Def. Coordinator he's ever had to go up against.
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Pees will have to prove that on the field but privately the players love him (per Aaron Wilson) and for those who keep comparing him to Greg Mattison just STOP. Mattison had one year of coaching experience in the NFL so it's no surprise he didn't set the world on fire in 2009 with a makeshift group of corners and a lack of experience. Pees has been coaching in the NFL since 2004 when he started of course with the Patriots under the best coach in the NFL in Bill Belicheck. Pees has better talent to work with which allows him to be more creative. He also has a better relationship with the players than Mattison did, they also privately lobbied for Pees to be the next D-Coordinator when Pagano left. |
Just because Pees has better talent to work with doesn't mean he's going to be more creative. You generally don't see a big change in a coordinator's philosophy when he moves from one team to the other (regardless of talent) so I'm still skeptical at best when it comes to expecting Pees not to call an overly conservative game. His relationship with the players isn't going to give them any extra boost either if he's not putting them in a position to succeed. We'll have to wait until we see Pees call regular season games for the Ravens since the preseason games aren't a good indicator at all but like I said earlier I'm not holding my breath.
Of course I don't think we should read too much into what Cameron says either. Seems to be more of a hype comment than anything, his comments haven't had much relevance in the past. That might be a team thing though since Harbaugh never says anything substantial either. This staff likes to keep things close to the vest which is a good thing just frustrating for us fans.  |
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| coordinator0 wrote: | | FlaccoForever wrote: | | Quote: | ravens Baltimore Ravens
Cam Cameron said that Dean Pees was the toughest Def. Coordinator he's ever had to go up against.
22 minutes ago Reply Retweet |
Pees will have to prove that on the field but privately the players love him (per Aaron Wilson) and for those who keep comparing him to Greg Mattison just STOP. Mattison had one year of coaching experience in the NFL so it's no surprise he didn't set the world on fire in 2009 with a makeshift group of corners and a lack of experience. Pees has been coaching in the NFL since 2004 when he started of course with the Patriots under the best coach in the NFL in Bill Belicheck. Pees has better talent to work with which allows him to be more creative. He also has a better relationship with the players than Mattison did, they also privately lobbied for Pees to be the next D-Coordinator when Pagano left. |
Just because Pees has better talent to work with doesn't mean he's going to be more creative. You generally don't see a big change in a coordinator's philosophy when he moves from one team to the other (regardless of talent) so I'm still skeptical at best when it comes to expecting Pees not to call an overly conservative game. His relationship with the players isn't going to give them any extra boost either if he's not putting them in a position to succeed. We'll have to wait until we see Pees call regular season games for the Ravens since the preseason games aren't a good indicator at all but like I said earlier I'm not holding my breath.
Of course I don't think we should read too much into what Cameron says either. Seems to be more of a hype comment than anything, his comments haven't had much relevance in the past. That might be a team thing though since Harbaugh never says anything substantial either. This staff likes to keep things close to the vest which is a good thing just frustrating for us fans. |
The smartest thing a fan or analyst in general can say when it comes to predicting anything for any team, player or coach for a season is:
"We will see what happens when the season starts"
Why do we feel compelled to be psychics and predict anything at all when it comes to an NFL season. Sure it creates entertaining debate and discussion but it ends up being pointless when something or someone shocks us. The NFL is very unpredictable so why do we predict anything? I know not making predictions would make things boring but not doing so is the smart choice in the end. |
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| Flaccomania wrote: | | SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | | FlaccoForever wrote: | | Quote: | gerrysandusky Gerry Sandusky
John Harbaugh lined up at cornerback in one drill today to demonstrate a technique. Asked how he felt there, the coach said, "embarrassed."
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Ironically, that's the same answer Harbaugh gives whenever he's asked "How does it feel knowing you come from a ST background, yet have one of the worst ST units in the league?" |
I guess Bill Belichick is embarassed that he has an extensive defensive background and just fielded the 2nd worst defense in NFL history? |
Judging by their draft this year, yeah, probably!
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| SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | | Flaccomania wrote: | | SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | | FlaccoForever wrote: | | Quote: | gerrysandusky Gerry Sandusky
John Harbaugh lined up at cornerback in one drill today to demonstrate a technique. Asked how he felt there, the coach said, "embarrassed."
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Ironically, that's the same answer Harbaugh gives whenever he's asked "How does it feel knowing you come from a ST background, yet have one of the worst ST units in the league?" |
I guess Bill Belichick is embarassed that he has an extensive defensive background and just fielded the 2nd worst defense in NFL history? |
Judging by their draft this year, yeah, probably! |
I wouldn't call a SB loss in the last few minutes "embarassing" personally. But, to each their own.
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| coordinator0 wrote: | | I know right? Half the fun is seeing whether or not people know what it is... |
Well process of elimination... we know its a three headed dragon. I don't know of any particular dragons within greek mythology that it reminds me of as the most popular ones Hydra and Ladon had more than three.
It doesn't look like a Chinese dragon in design.
And we know it's not the Blue Eyes White Dragon... so clearly it's not pokemon ( ).
I'm gonna guess that it's of Asian origin, perhaps Japanese? Would you care to enlighten?
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| diamondbull424 wrote: | | coordinator0 wrote: | | I know right? Half the fun is seeing whether or not people know what it is... |
Well process of elimination... we know its a three headed dragon. I don't know of any particular dragons within greek mythology that it reminds me of as the most popular ones Hydra and Ladon had more than three.
It doesn't look like a Chinese dragon in design.
And we know it's not the Blue Eyes White Dragon... so clearly it's not pokemon ().
I'm gonna guess that it's of Asian origin, perhaps Japanese? Would you care to enlighten? |
TinEye tells me its from GoT
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| drd23 wrote: | | diamondbull424 wrote: | | coordinator0 wrote: | | I know right? Half the fun is seeing whether or not people know what it is... |
Well process of elimination... we know its a three headed dragon. I don't know of any particular dragons within greek mythology that it reminds me of as the most popular ones Hydra and Ladon had more than three.
It doesn't look like a Chinese dragon in design.
And we know it's not the Blue Eyes White Dragon... so clearly it's not pokemon ().
I'm gonna guess that it's of Asian origin, perhaps Japanese? Would you care to enlighten? |
TinEye tells me its from GoT |
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In other news, in anyone else starting to think Tandon Doss might get cut before the season? I've heard ok things here and there, but for the most part it seems the others young receivers either have more to offer or are just flat out making more of their opportunity.
We all know that the coaching staff places high priority on special teams ability when it comes to the 4th or 5th receiver spots, so I think we can agree that LaQuan Williams has the edge for over Doss for a spot just on that alone (not to mention that LQ has already shown more as a receiver in his limited time).
I have to think Tommy Streeter earns a spot just due to the fact that we invested a 6th round pick. We obviously value our draft picks and historically the Ravens keep all of their rookie picks for their first season. Not to mention that I think someone with Streeter's physical attributes and upside would get scooped up in a heartbeat if we foolishly tried to stash him on the PS.
That leaves Deonte Thompson, with his great 1st game + all his camp hype versus Tandon Doss. I'm with Deonte.
Boldin
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Thompson
Streeter
I'm starting to believe we're going to have to cut a WR who we just invested a 4th round pick in. I can't see 7 receivers staying on, especially when we've got a plethora of good players at CB, multiple guys fighting hard at S, and decisions to make at RB.
It's pretty sad to see someone who everyone had such high hopes for in Doss being in as dire as a position as he is (at least from my view).
Just a year ago this guy was being pimped as a potential starter opposite Boldin and Torrey Smith was already a bust. |
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^^^ In that scenario, I'm assumin we send TD to the PS? He does still have eligibility, correct?
http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2011/8/31/2396748/nfl-practice-squad-salary-rules-eligibility
| Quote: | Eligibility for the practice squad is based on the following guidelines:
•Players can't have already been on a practice squad for two or more years, although a third year on the practice squad is possible if a player's team has had at least 53 players on the roster during his entire period of employment (players are deemed to have spent a season on the practice squad if they are on it for three of more regular season or postseason games during their first two years and at least one during their third year)
•Players can't have an accrued season of NFL experience (six or more games on a team's 53-man roster, injured reserve or PUP list), unless they were on the active list (i.e. were dressed to play) for fewer than nine regular season games during their only accrued season(s) |
Doss seems to fit those guidelines. He was on the 53 man last year, but did not dress.
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| I think Doss did dress for a game or two, but there's a good chance I could be wrong. Maybe the team will shock us all and keep 7 WRs. The final cuts are going to be pretty interesting this year. |
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| sp6488 wrote: | ^^^ In that scenario, I'm assumin we send TD to the PS? He does still have eligibility, correct?
http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2011/8/31/2396748/nfl-practice-squad-salary-rules-eligibility
| Quote: | Eligibility for the practice squad is based on the following guidelines:
•Players can't have already been on a practice squad for two or more years, although a third year on the practice squad is possible if a player's team has had at least 53 players on the roster during his entire period of employment (players are deemed to have spent a season on the practice squad if they are on it for three of more regular season or postseason games during their first two years and at least one during their third year)
•Players can't have an accrued season of NFL experience (six or more games on a team's 53-man roster, injured reserve or PUP list), unless they were on the active list (i.e. were dressed to play) for fewer than nine regular season games during their only accrued season(s) |
Doss seems to fit those guidelines. He was on the 53 man last year, but did not dress. |
I believe he would fit under those guidelines as he was active for only 6 games in 2011.
Though, correct me if I'm wrong, in order for a player to go to the PS, don't they have to be cut and clear waivers? I'm sure a team would snipe a 4th round pick from 2011 off waivers before he made it through.
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