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nugpimpen
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U asked for a legit source. Nfln may not be perfect, but its pretty legit.
Not sure how it plays out, but its better than twitter. 
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mistakebytehlak
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| PackFan13 wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | boondock wrote: | | PackFan13 wrote: | Jordy Nelson signs a 3 year 13 million dollar extension. Brown gets 5 years 42 million?  TT is a god. |
I think it's more of a thing where Jordy wants to be a part of that team, something special and is willing to take a pay cut. If Jordy continues to produce at a high level, he'll get paid at the end of this contract. |
If he has another season this season like he did last year, I'd be like YO Ted, lets talk |
He had out produced Brown and signed for a fraction of the price. Obviously wanting to stay with the team had something to do with it, but I think it's obvious they overpaid Brown. Half a season shouldn't equate to that big of a pay day, I think he's a damn fine player and may live up to the contract, it's just shocking to see him get paid that much already. |
He had not out produced Brown's 2011 through four games... because thats when he got re-signed. After four good 2011 games. He went on to blow up even harder towards the end of the year, when he posted 5 100 yard games. before the extension, he posted 0. Before this year, Jordy was a less than 600 yard receiver. It was a great extension by Ted, if not for timing.
Brown isn't over priced- that production is nice production. This is what the CBA taking money away from rookies has led to- good young players getting paid.
Wallace deserves more than Brown, and certainly more than Vincent Jackson. I'd pay Wallace 5 years 60 mil. maybe 65 mil. dude's a baller.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | ^^^^^^^
Well if NFLN reports that Wallace is on the trade block, I tend to believe it since, you know, they kinda have inside info  |
So you just blindly believe whatever NFLN tells you, even though they have been wrong many...MANY times?
And you didnt answer my question....what source are they reporting on?
Considering they are quoting Tribune and Gazette writers, my guess is they are just feeding into a rumor and "feelings" of two writers who have been wrong alot themselves.
And again... opinionated rumor =/= legit report.
Im not saying he wont be traded....but I think its funny how some people are willing to believe anything. |
Well if you are looking for a source that has never been wrong you won't except anything b/c we both know there is no such source, even Jay Glazer has been wrong before, but we also both know that NFLN has been right a lot more than they've been wrong.
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FourThreeMafia
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| nugpimpen wrote: | U asked for a legit source. Nfln may not be perfect, but its pretty legit.
Not sure how it plays out, but its better than twitter. |
They are talking about a rumor....not an actual report though.
Thats my point.
There is absolutely no direct quote from anyone saying "The Steelers are looking to trade Mike Wallace". Just things saying "The Steelers COULD trade Mike Wallace"...which anyone could tell you.
Not really "legit".
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FourThreeMafia
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | ^^^^^^^
Well if NFLN reports that Wallace is on the trade block, I tend to believe it since, you know, they kinda have inside info |
So you just blindly believe whatever NFLN tells you, even though they have been wrong many...MANY times?
And you didnt answer my question....what source are they reporting on?
Considering they are quoting Tribune and Gazette writers, my guess is they are just feeding into a rumor and "feelings" of two writers who have been wrong alot themselves.
And again... opinionated rumor =/= legit report.
Im not saying he wont be traded....but I think its funny how some people are willing to believe anything. |
Well if you are looking for a source that has never been wrong you won't except anything b/c we both know there is no such source, even Jay Glazer has been wrong before, but we also both know that NFLN has been right a lot more than they've been wrong. |
And as I just said...they are talking about unconfirmed rumors and feelings of sports writers....not actual team reports. When they say the team is actually looking to trade him, let me know.
And when it comes to "rumors" NFLN is wrong quite a bit.
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| cluelessororke wrote: | | I am going to laugh in your face when they don't even sniff WR until day three of the draft |
Still waiting for your laugh.... |
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BenchSanchez
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| nugpimpen wrote: | U asked for a legit source. Nfln may not be perfect, but its pretty legit.
Not sure how it plays out, but its better than twitter. |
On Twitter aka good sources saying it and/or posting an article about it.
| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | BenchSanchez wrote: | | FourThreeMafia wrote: | | BenchSanchez wrote: | | FourThreeMafia wrote: | | GBPACKMAN4LIFE wrote: | | The chances were already slim for Mike Wallace to stay in Pittsburgh, but they just moved to none. |
Wrong.
Im not saying he will get a long term deal, but to say there is no chance is flat out incorrect.
Khan and Colbert are miracle workers...they can get it done. NOT SAYING THEY WILL, but there is still a decent chance. |
Wrong.
(I just wanted to do that.)
According to the latest and greatest, Wallace is on the trade block. Steelers admit they can't work anything out.
If the Patriots end up with Wallace I'm going to be pissed. As usual, Jets are rumored as interested amoung others. I don't think we can pull that one off, though we do have the #17 open...  |
I call BS until you provide a source.
And if the Steelers actually TRADE him, it wont be to the Pats. That much I guarantee. |
Denial.
Just look on Twitter fool. Everyone is talking about it.
You made me lol. |
You call me a fool, yet you believe Twitter is a reliable source...
Stop talking...youre embarassing yourself. |
Quite the opposite. I understand it'sca good player on your team. But you don't have to be naive or nasty. It won't fix it.
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FourThreeMafia
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| BenchSanchez wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | U asked for a legit source. Nfln may not be perfect, but its pretty legit.
Not sure how it plays out, but its better than twitter. |
On Twitter aka good sources saying it and/or posting an article about it. |
Yet you still have yet to provide a SINGLE source to back up your claim.
And Im not talking about baseless rumors....Im talking about confirmed reports.
Let me know when you have that.
Thanks.
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| cluelessororke wrote: | | I am going to laugh in your face when they don't even sniff WR until day three of the draft |
Still waiting for your laugh.... |
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BenchSanchez
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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I guess the part that you can't comprehend is I don't have to. Pretty simple for you to find it. I like watching you squirm more though.
Everyone is so crabby here anymore.
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FourThreeMafia
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| BenchSanchez wrote: | I guess the part that you can't comprehend is I don't have to. Pretty simple for you to find it. I like watching you squirm more though.
Everyone is so crabby here anymore. |
Asking you to provide something to back up your claim is "crabby"?
No...its pretty clear you have absolutely nothing, and are just copping out because you made something up and cant own up to it.
Its a simple request...post a link to a legit report, and thats it.
Continuing to make excuses just makes you look worse.
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| cluelessororke wrote: | | I am going to laugh in your face when they don't even sniff WR until day three of the draft |
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BenchSanchez
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | BenchSanchez wrote: | I guess the part that you can't comprehend is I don't have to. Pretty simple for you to find it. I like watching you squirm more though.
Everyone is so crabby here anymore. |
Asking you to provide something to back up your claim is "crabby"?
No...its pretty clear you have absolutely nothing, and are just copping out because you made something up and cant own up to it.
Its a simple request...post a link to a legit report, and thats it.
Continuing to make excuses just makes you look worse. |
Surprised you were able to compose that with all the tears on your keyboard.
There is already a link in this thread that you can't accept because you're more of an insider than the insiders. Why would I post a link just for you to discount it.
I'm not dragging this off-topic anymore. You have anything to say please PM me. But make it logical.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | BenchSanchez wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | U asked for a legit source. Nfln may not be perfect, but its pretty legit.
Not sure how it plays out, but its better than twitter. |
On Twitter aka good sources saying it and/or posting an article about it. |
Yet you still have yet to provide a SINGLE source to back up your claim.
And Im not talking about baseless rumors....Im talking about confirmed reports.
Let me know when you have that.
Thanks. |
How often does that kind of report actually come out though? Not very often, if ever. If it does, and the Steelers confirm it, there goes the leverage they may have.
I understand your argument of people reporting rumors that it "could" happen as fact being frustrating, but to say that without a confirmed report that they are looking for it that it's BS, is taking it to the other extreme.
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LTF
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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I can remember so many people on here this offseason acting like Wallace getting signed to an offer sheet by another team was basically a foregone conclusion....and most astute Steeler fans were telling you it wasn't going to happen.
Now Mike Wallace is going to get traded? Okay, have fun discussing that b.s. the new few weeks. Most astute Steeler fans know the odds of Wallace getting traded are probably less than 5%. The Steelers have exclusive control of him this year and can tag him next year. |
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Bobikus
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Yes, but is going to want to play once it's apparent the Steelers no longer care for a long term deal? After the $42million middle finger given to him? It's not impossible that they decide that an extra pick is better than an unmotivated Wallace.
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JDLefebvre
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| Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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If he's a Steeler in 2012 it will benefit him to play "motivated" if he wants a big payday from another team.
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LTF
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| Bobikus wrote: | | Yes, but is going to want to play once it's apparent the Steelers no longer care for a long term deal? After the $42million middle finger given to him? It's not impossible that they decide that an extra pick is better than an unmotivated Wallace. |
They can still sign Wallace long term. Over the last few days they've only lost $200,000 of 2012 cap space after the vet cap relief and Brown's contract. If Wallace signs his tender and wants to negotiate a long term deal it can still happen. He's got to sign that tender and report to camp first though, the Steelers won't budge on that.
I will say I'm not sure a long term deal gets done. But are the Steelers going to scramble and trade him? I don't see it. Wallace will eventually sign his tender, report, and play out this season. My guess is the Steelers either tag him next season or let him walk and get the third round compensation pick in 2014. |
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