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BenchSanchez
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| Steelerspower wrote: | | BenchSanchez wrote: | There is a line between being tough and stupid, IMO.
Better heal up. |
It's better to be stupid than being soft |
Umm, no. It's stupid to potentially cut your career short, has nothing to do with being soft.
If he does get hurt (for the record, I don't think he will) he won't be known as the big tough guy, he'll be known as the idiot who didn't let himself heal.
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Steelerspower
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| BenchSanchez wrote: | | Steelerspower wrote: | | BenchSanchez wrote: | There is a line between being tough and stupid, IMO.
Better heal up. |
It's better to be stupid than being soft |
Umm, no. It's stupid to potentially cut your career short, has nothing to do with being soft.
If he does get hurt (for the record, I don't think he will) he won't be known as the big tough guy, he'll be known as the idiot who didn't let himself heal. |
I agree if it's a concussion, it would be stupid to play with it....But I have no problem to see players playing with serious injury if it is not dangerous for your life
Brett Favre has often played with injuries during his 297 games in a row
surely, you think that Rivers was stupid to play in 2007 against the patriots in the AFC title game, but I do not agree
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BenchSanchez
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Knee is one thing, arm for a QB is another. Pennington was never the same afterwards. Once it goes noodle you're done. 
Again, I don't think it'll go this far for Big Ben, I think he'll be fine.. But he better make sure he's healed is all I'm saying. If he's a chump about it then that's his fault.
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iknowcool
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:40 am Post subject: |
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| Steelerspower wrote: | | surely, you think that Rivers was stupid to play in 2007 against the patriots in the AFC title game, but I do not agree |
He probably is the reason they didn't win the game.
Ben Roethlisberger looked like a below average quarterback after his ankle injury. People seem to think that just because he can play through the injury means he can play well with the injury. I'm not saying he should sit out or anything because they probably don't have a better backup option but him being able to play through it and him being able to play well are two different things. Like I said, his ankle injury really affected him last season. |
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Cat_Fish_Billy
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| Ben is one of toughest qb's so he should be fine. Will it affect him no well not intell late in the season. It's just a lil tear.. He could have his arms hanging off his shoulder he would say i just need duck tape. Batch are you ready to play when he throws his arm off? |
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Bobikus
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| iknowcool wrote: | | Steelerspower wrote: | | surely, you think that Rivers was stupid to play in 2007 against the patriots in the AFC title game, but I do not agree |
He probably is the reason they didn't win the game.
Ben Roethlisberger looked like a below average quarterback after his ankle injury. People seem to think that just because he can play through the injury means he can play well with the injury. I'm not saying he should sit out or anything because they probably don't have a better backup option but him being able to play through it and him being able to play well are two different things. Like I said, his ankle injury really affected him last season. |
A minor rotator cuff is more of a "rest and rehab" sort of thing that shouldn't affect him too much outside of pain and having to make sure not to overwork it in practice. The ankle injury completely inhibited his ability to move in the pocket or step into throws.
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Keleth
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:24 am Post subject: |
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Keleth wrote: | I'm getting fed up with Ben and his injuries that he then keeps playing through.
It seems to me he keeps having excuses ready. |
Excuses for what, exactly?
He has played through alot of injuries.
Stop whining. |
Yer let me rephrase the excuse quote.
He has played through a lot of injuries.
You know how we know he has played through a lot of injuries ?
Because he lets us know before hand that he has an injury.
How many other players do we keep hearing from that they are carrying an injury.We may see them on the injury report list but Ben deems it necessary to talk to the press about them nearly every time.
It is almost him saying "look at how tough I am playing through these injuries time and time again".
The team doctors obviously do not believe this injury is serious enough to play on without any type of surgery so why let us know about it ?
I'd would hate to think how many players are playing week in week out with an equivalent type of injury yet we do not hear from them.
The sad thing is we all know how good Ben is and we don't need to keep hearing how much of an injured hero he is. |
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Steelerspower
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| iknowcool wrote: | | Steelerspower wrote: | | surely, you think that Rivers was stupid to play in 2007 against the patriots in the AFC title game, but I do not agree |
He probably is the reason they didn't win the game.
Ben Roethlisberger looked like a below average quarterback after his ankle injury. People seem to think that just because he can play through the injury means he can play well with the injury. I'm not saying he should sit out or anything because they probably don't have a better backup option but him being able to play through it and him being able to play well are two different things. Like I said, his ankle injury really affected him last season. |
Below average?!...In fact, Roethlisberger was awful!!!....It was painful to Watch
Roethlisberger often play well with an injury, but this was the worst injury of his career last year
His injury in 2005 was maybe worse, and he missed four games
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sammymvpknight
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelerspower wrote: | | it's nothing serious....this not deserve to be a story |
You need to educate yourself before making such a stupid statement.
Do yourself a favor and read about rotator cuff tendinosis. If rotator cuff tears aren't resolved they turn into chronic issues...something that may lead to limiting Big Stupid Bens career. |
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FirstDownFaulk
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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It's nothing serious....Tom Brady separated his throwing shoulder, partially tore his rotator cuff and played through this in 2002, 2003 and 2004 finally electing to have the arthroscopic surgery to repair it after the Super Bowl.
It's really about a players ability to manage the pain more than anything, and Big Ben is arguably one of the best at this. He'll be fine.
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ErnestoGuevara
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| FirstDownFaulk wrote: | It's nothing serious....Tom Brady separated his throwing shoulder, partially tore his rotator cuff and played through this in 2002, 2003 and 2004 finally electing to have the arthroscopic surgery to repair it after the Super Bowl.
It's really about a players ability to manage the pain more than anything, and Big Ben is arguably one of the best at this. He'll be fine. |
Not to mention the diagnosis of "torn rotator cuff" encompasses an incredibly wide range of injuries and treatment plans from extremely mild to severe that you can't just say "Oh, he'll be fine because x also had a tear and he did fine" or "He'll have problems because y did". Bottom line, Tomlin said it was a non-issue and it's not like Ben has missed any playing time in TC because of it so I think it was blown a little out of proportion. |
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pghinsomniac
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| If you think us fans are concerned about how this effects Ben's performance, how do you think those with actual money/jobs at stake feel? If Rooney/Tomlin/Steelers officials had even an inkling that this could effect his performance/ruin his career, they'd have taken care of it surgically a while back. I'm not worried. |
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Thaiphoon
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| skatebeanz wrote: | | Steelerspower wrote: | | it's nothing serious....this not deserve to be a story |
So a QB with a partially torn rotator cuff on his throwing arm is not a story? Or you just don;t want people talking about it? |
I agree. Its not a big deal if this were a placekicker. But a partially torn rotator cuff on the throwing side of the QB?? Yeah, that is a BIG deal.
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