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Flaccomania
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| vikingsrule wrote: | | sp6488 wrote: | Interesting...
http://tracking.si.com/2012/08/15/seahawks-tarvaris-jackson-trade-talks/?sct=nfl_t2_a4
| Quote: | | A source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that the Seahawks are talking to a couple of teams about trading Jackson, and that a deal could happen. But the Seahawks prefer to wait for one or more teams to suffer a quarterback injury during the preseason, which would help them get a better deal in return. |
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who in their right mind would trade for Tarvaris Jackson 
Well Childress did in 2006, maybe he will be a Brown. I cant see any team wanting Jackson in a trade. If he was cut, possibly a different story. |
I'm sure quite a few teams would entertain it if their starting QB gets injured in pre-season. TJack would be a pretty good, relatively cheap option to go with if he'd restructure his deal. I heard he's making $4M this season which no team would want to take on.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Flaccomania wrote: | | vikingsrule wrote: | | sp6488 wrote: | Interesting...
http://tracking.si.com/2012/08/15/seahawks-tarvaris-jackson-trade-talks/?sct=nfl_t2_a4
| Quote: | | A source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that the Seahawks are talking to a couple of teams about trading Jackson, and that a deal could happen. But the Seahawks prefer to wait for one or more teams to suffer a quarterback injury during the preseason, which would help them get a better deal in return. |
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who in their right mind would trade for Tarvaris Jackson
Well Childress did in 2006, maybe he will be a Brown. I cant see any team wanting Jackson in a trade. If he was cut, possibly a different story. |
I'm sure quite a few teams would entertain it if their starting QB gets injured in pre-season. TJack would be a pretty good, relatively cheap option to go with if he'd restructure his deal. I heard he's making $4M this season which no team would want to take on. |
That's the key thing. I don't think we're getting anything for him unless he takes a severe paycut.
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Flynn, I think he has the most upside even though I like Wilson alot
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| Canadian_Patriot wrote: | | Seahawks206 wrote: | | Hammertime52 wrote: | | Matt Flynn easy. |
why do you say that? Wilson has more upside |
So why did they spent a serious chunk of cash on Flynn? |
The question was who SHOULD start. And the answer is Russell Wilson and it's not even close.
Russell Wilson honestly has a chance to be a top 2 QB from this draft.
His height problem is absurdly overrated considering his throwing motion is a lot higher than some 6'5 QBs. And the guy stood just fine behind an average of 6'4-6'5 offensive line. |
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| JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | Flynn, I think he has the most upside even though I like Wilson alot |
Just curious how anyone can come to this conclusion if you consider Russell Wilson is basically greater at Flynn in every talent and skill category.
Flynn is taller and that's it. |
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| BBIB wrote: | | JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | Flynn, I think he has the most upside even though I like Wilson alot |
Just curious how anyone can come to this conclusion if you consider Russell Wilson is basically greater at Flynn in every talent and skill category.
Flynn is taller and that's it. |
Because the height issue is a pretty major one.
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| jrry32 wrote: | | BBIB wrote: | | JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | Flynn, I think he has the most upside even though I like Wilson alot |
Just curious how anyone can come to this conclusion if you consider Russell Wilson is basically greater at Flynn in every talent and skill category.
Flynn is taller and that's it. |
Because the height issue is a pretty major one. |
Pretty much. Wilson has everything you want from a QB, except inches.
That being said, he is by far the best QB prospect on the roster. Give him a year and he will flush Flynn out of the house.
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| onejayhawk wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: | | BBIB wrote: | | JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | Flynn, I think he has the most upside even though I like Wilson alot |
Just curious how anyone can come to this conclusion if you consider Russell Wilson is basically greater at Flynn in every talent and skill category.
Flynn is taller and that's it. |
Because the height issue is a pretty major one. |
Pretty much. Wilson has everything you want from a QB, except inches.
That being said, he is by far the best QB prospect on the roster. Give him a year and he will flush Flynn out of the house.
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We will see. IMO, that'll bode well for my Rams.
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| I think that Wilson has much higher upside. If he was three inches taller this really wouldn't be much of a debate. With how well Wilson throws outside the pocket I am not very concerned about his height. He is excellent at finding throwing lanes and that is ultimately what's important. Brees is about the same height but he has no problem throwing the ball past the offensive and defensive lines. It's able about trajectory, accuracy, and knowning the passing lanes. |
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| sammymvpknight wrote: | | I think that Wilson has much higher upside. If he was three inches taller this really wouldn't be much of a debate. With how well Wilson throws outside the pocket I am not very concerned about his height. He is excellent at finding throwing lanes and that is ultimately what's important. Brees is about the same height but he has no problem throwing the ball past the offensive and defensive lines. It's able about trajectory, accuracy, and knowning the passing lanes. |
The problem with this comparison is that Brees is the exception, not the rule.
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| jrry32 wrote: | | BBIB wrote: | | JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | Flynn, I think he has the most upside even though I like Wilson alot |
Just curious how anyone can come to this conclusion if you consider Russell Wilson is basically greater at Flynn in every talent and skill category.
Flynn is taller and that's it. |
Because the height issue is a pretty major one. |
Since when do Quarterbacks throw the ball with the top of their head?
Last time I checked you throw it from your arm, and where Russell Wilson holds the football when he releases it is as high as many QBs well over 6 feet tall. Just like there 6'5 QBs who throw the ball like they are half a foot shorter. It's a reason why he didn't have a high percentage of balls batted down at the line of scrimmage even behind 6'4-6'5 Oline and going up against 6'4 and 6'5 defenders.
When you add the ability to find the passing lanes in and out of the pocket, and an offense that is suited to doing just that, his height is a total non-issue. |
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^ You see passing lanes with your eyes, not your arm.
Its not a given that Wilson will have the same elite skills that Brees does in terms of seeing passing lanes despite being limited in height.
Trajectory isnt an issue, its being able to see in the pocket and you cant assume that since Brees did it, Wilson will as well. Remember, Brees is still a good inch or two taller than Wilson. |
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| vikingsrule wrote: | ^ You see passing lanes with your eyes, not your arm.
Its not a given that Wilson will have the same elite skills that Brees does in terms of seeing passing lanes despite being limited in height.
Trajectory isnt an issue, its being able to see in the pocket and you cant assume that since Brees did it, Wilson will as well. Remember, Brees is still a good inch or two taller than Wilson. |
Well that's why I say he's in the perfect situation because it's a team that is going to have those bootlegs and move the pocket for him. Also a team that will have those 5-7 step drops that help a shorter QB
But I will be honest and say the one area that will be tough to overcome will be the redzone when it comes to throwing over the middle. (That may be why he threw that pick in his previous game because he just didn't see that defender)
So that is one area I'll have to keep an eye on, but I don't think it will stop him from being a solid starter in this league because of all the other positive factors outside of his height.
Russell Wilson may be the best ever of the modern dual threat variety guys at looking down the field when he scrambles. |
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To be fair to Matt Flynn, T.O. dropped a wide open TD pass, but if Seattle wants to put out the QB who gives them the best chance to win ball games, they clearly should play Russell Wilson
It's not about numbers, it's about talent. Russell Wilson is simply a greater threat to a defense to stretch the field vertically and has uncanny improvisational skills. |
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Flaccomania
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| Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| BBIB wrote: | To be fair to Matt Flynn, T.O. dropped a wide open TD pass, but if Seattle wants to put out the QB who gives them the best chance to win ball games, they clearly should play Russell Wilson
It's not about numbers, it's about talent. Russell Wilson is simply a greater threat to a defense to stretch the field vertically and has uncanny improvisational skills. |
I didn't see the game, but was Wilson playing against the #1s? Has he yet?
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