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Django


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in AWE of Andrew Luck.

As I've said before

Luck > RG3/Cam
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weeden is better than all of them.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luck MAKES the game winning TD.

Cam WOEFULLY MISSES the game winning TD.

I am just in awe of Cam's inability to be clutch.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cam Newton just looks bad. No other way to put it.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, we know. Cam sucks. He's worse than every QB in the entire league and Luck through 5 games is already a better QB than he or Griffin will ever be (despite having much worse numbers than either of those two QBs coming into this week).
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iknowcool wrote:
Yes, we know. Cam sucks. He's worse than every QB in the entire league and Luck through 5 games is already a better QB than he or Griffin will ever be (despite having much worse numbers than either of those two QBs coming into this week).


LOL you see why he posts it like 6 times because he's trying to convince himself

The funny thing is they set up a win win situation. First they say RGIII for instance will do better than Luck as a rookie. So they lowered the bar. So if RGIII had a better season it wouldn't mean anything. But if he doesn't or if he doesn't even have a better game, that's PROOF that Luck >>>>> RGIII
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBIB wrote:
iknowcool wrote:
Yes, we know. Cam sucks. He's worse than every QB in the entire league and Luck through 5 games is already a better QB than he or Griffin will ever be (despite having much worse numbers than either of those two QBs coming into this week).


LOL you see why he posts it like 6 times because he's trying to convince himself

The funny thing is they set up a win win situation. First they say RGIII for instance will do better than Luck as a rookie. So they lowered the bar. So if RGIII had a better season it wouldn't mean anything. But if he doesn't or if he doesn't even have a better game, that's PROOF that Luck >>>>> RGIII


All mobile QBs have been exposed. Vick has been exposed. Cam. And RG3 will too if he cant protect himself from hits.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Django wrote:
BBIB wrote:
iknowcool wrote:
Yes, we know. Cam sucks. He's worse than every QB in the entire league and Luck through 5 games is already a better QB than he or Griffin will ever be (despite having much worse numbers than either of those two QBs coming into this week).


LOL you see why he posts it like 6 times because he's trying to convince himself

The funny thing is they set up a win win situation. First they say RGIII for instance will do better than Luck as a rookie. So they lowered the bar. So if RGIII had a better season it wouldn't mean anything. But if he doesn't or if he doesn't even have a better game, that's PROOF that Luck >>>>> RGIII


All mobile QBs have been exposed. Vick has been exposed. Cam. And RG3 will too if he cant protect himself from hits.


I guess that is why Nolan couldn't stop Cam last week and RG3 is one of the highest rated passers in the NFL.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iknowcool wrote:
Django wrote:
BBIB wrote:
iknowcool wrote:
Yes, we know. Cam sucks. He's worse than every QB in the entire league and Luck through 5 games is already a better QB than he or Griffin will ever be (despite having much worse numbers than either of those two QBs coming into this week).


LOL you see why he posts it like 6 times because he's trying to convince himself

The funny thing is they set up a win win situation. First they say RGIII for instance will do better than Luck as a rookie. So they lowered the bar. So if RGIII had a better season it wouldn't mean anything. But if he doesn't or if he doesn't even have a better game, that's PROOF that Luck >>>>> RGIII


All mobile QBs have been exposed. Vick has been exposed. Cam. And RG3 will too if he cant protect himself from hits.


I guess that is why Nolan couldn't stop Cam last week and RG3 is one of the highest rated passers in the NFL.


Im talking about WINNING GAMES.

This fluky offense isnt a productive way to win football games. It puts up numbers, but it doesnt translate to wins.

Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton. QBs in TRADITIONAL offenses. Are outperforming Cam. Why? Cause they are doing what it takes to succeed in the NFL. Cam is still playing college ball. Redskins better cool it with RG3 if he wants his career to last.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Django wrote:
BBIB wrote:
iknowcool wrote:
Yes, we know. Cam sucks. He's worse than every QB in the entire league and Luck through 5 games is already a better QB than he or Griffin will ever be (despite having much worse numbers than either of those two QBs coming into this week).


LOL you see why he posts it like 6 times because he's trying to convince himself

The funny thing is they set up a win win situation. First they say RGIII for instance will do better than Luck as a rookie. So they lowered the bar. So if RGIII had a better season it wouldn't mean anything. But if he doesn't or if he doesn't even have a better game, that's PROOF that Luck >>>>> RGIII


All mobile QBs have been exposed. Vick has been exposed. Cam. And RG3 will too if he cant protect himself from hits.


Confused

You wouldnt describe Luck as a mobile QB?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Django wrote:
iknowcool wrote:
Django wrote:
BBIB wrote:
iknowcool wrote:
Yes, we know. Cam sucks. He's worse than every QB in the entire league and Luck through 5 games is already a better QB than he or Griffin will ever be (despite having much worse numbers than either of those two QBs coming into this week).


LOL you see why he posts it like 6 times because he's trying to convince himself

The funny thing is they set up a win win situation. First they say RGIII for instance will do better than Luck as a rookie. So they lowered the bar. So if RGIII had a better season it wouldn't mean anything. But if he doesn't or if he doesn't even have a better game, that's PROOF that Luck >>>>> RGIII


All mobile QBs have been exposed. Vick has been exposed. Cam. And RG3 will too if he cant protect himself from hits.


I guess that is why Nolan couldn't stop Cam last week and RG3 is one of the highest rated passers in the NFL.


Im talking about WINNING GAMES.

This fluky offense isnt a productive way to win football games. It puts up numbers, but it doesnt translate to wins.

Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton. QBs in TRADITIONAL offenses. Are outperforming Cam. Why? Cause they are doing what it takes to succeed in the NFL. Cam is still playing college ball. Redskins better cool it with RG3 if he wants his career to last.


What is "fluky" or non traditional about our offense?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, it really seems to me you are blaming our lack of success more on our offensive coordinator than you are Newton.

Either way, are you implying our offense last year would have somehow not generate as much, or more, wins had they had the Bengals defense? Because Newton out performed Dalton in every way.

And Redskins are what, 3-2, 2-3? I think it is safe to say their offense certainly isn't holding them because considering they've been competitive in every game this year.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBIB wrote:
iknowcool wrote:
Yes, we know. Cam sucks. He's worse than every QB in the entire league and Luck through 5 games is already a better QB than he or Griffin will ever be (despite having much worse numbers than either of those two QBs coming into this week).


LOL you see why he posts it like 6 times because he's trying to convince himself

The funny thing is they set up a win win situation. First they say RGIII for instance will do better than Luck as a rookie. So they lowered the bar. So if RGIII had a better season it wouldn't mean anything. But if he doesn't or if he doesn't even have a better game, that's PROOF that Luck >>>>> RGIII


I like how he started out trying to give the impression that he was impartial in all this.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J Pep 4 Step wrote:
Django wrote:
BBIB wrote:
iknowcool wrote:
Yes, we know. Cam sucks. He's worse than every QB in the entire league and Luck through 5 games is already a better QB than he or Griffin will ever be (despite having much worse numbers than either of those two QBs coming into this week).


LOL you see why he posts it like 6 times because he's trying to convince himself

The funny thing is they set up a win win situation. First they say RGIII for instance will do better than Luck as a rookie. So they lowered the bar. So if RGIII had a better season it wouldn't mean anything. But if he doesn't or if he doesn't even have a better game, that's PROOF that Luck >>>>> RGIII


All mobile QBs have been exposed. Vick has been exposed. Cam. And RG3 will too if he cant protect himself from hits.


Confused

You wouldnt describe Luck as a mobile QB?


Not even that, but Cam is different than those guys. It's apples and oranges. Vick and Griffin are built much, much differently than Newton. If I were to compare Cam to any running QB, it might be Tebow. But he's already a lot better than him. Cam has the size and build that Vick and RG3 don't. That argument was plain dumb.

And not only that, but let's say that hypothetically he is comparable to RGIII and Vick in that way. We'll go into the the next comment; 'winning games'. Did Vick not win a lot of games in Atlanta and even 2 years ago in Philly? He can't help Reid calling less and less runs or when the defense lets him down. Nor could he help the lack of talented WR's in Atlanta.

And how is it proven that Griffin doesn't win games? Gtfoh with that. He owned New Orleans and marched down the field to win against TB. And even in the games he's lost, he's had solid numbers. Especially for a rookie. How one can even come to a conclusion that he does or doesn't win games at this point is mind blowing.

Oh, and Luck's record is 2-2. Does that mean he doesn't win games? Jeez. And I like Luck more than both Cam or RG3. But that argument was garbage.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd take Luck over any QB drafted in the last 5+ years. I thought that before he was drafted, and never stopped thinking that.
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