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bbllstr22
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| wackywabbit wrote: | | I'd take Luck over any QB drafted in the last 5+ years. I thought that before he was drafted, and never stopped thinking that. |
Over any quarterback currently in the NFL? 
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wackywabbit
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| bbllstr22 wrote: | | wackywabbit wrote: | | I'd take Luck over any QB drafted in the last 5+ years. I thought that before he was drafted, and never stopped thinking that. |
Over any quarterback currently in the NFL? |
Hasn't proved what Rodgers has. I'd take Brees and Brady for the short term excellence. Eli and Ben (ugh) also have a lot of high level football left. Rivers is a close call. Matt Ryan is also a close call, but I want to see how he sustains this tear he is on, (though I'm not really worried about the lack of postseason success like other people are).
..And yes, I'd take him over Flacco... |
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Django
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| Fellas....am I right or am I right? |
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Tom Shean
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| Django wrote: | | Fellas....am I right or am I right? |
You were right
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Django
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| Tom Shean wrote: | | Django wrote: | | Fellas....am I right or am I right? |
You were right |
Again...this was something I called in preseason 
Now I felt it was bit fair. Because Cam came what was at the time the GOAT rookie season by a QB ever. Andrew Luck was the most hyped QB since Elway.
Not an easy pick by any means.
Congrats to Andrew Luck for now being on his way to the greatest rookie season ever. |
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El ramster
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let me see how he does after the sophmore slump.
Also, he'll hit a Rookie wall. RG is just starting to come
back to earth. I love me some Luck, Hard not to root for the
colts. Luck has been playing amazing, Like others have said. He's
been playing top 7 this year. Just amazing! truly amazing.
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BBIB
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| El ramster wrote: | let me see how he does after the sophmore slump.
Also, he'll hit a Rookie wall. RG is just starting to come
back to earth. I love me some Luck, Hard not to root for the
colts. Luck has been playing amazing, Like others have said. He's
been playing top 7 this year. Just amazing! truly amazing. |
A lot of all of this has to do with how many people don't like Cam Newton and thought he would be a bust
That's why after 4-5 games people say RGIII is already better than Cam even though Cam's rookie season was more impressive
And still Cam Newton's rookie season is more impressive than the pace of Andrew Luck right now
Andrew Luck has a whopping 13 total TDs and 11 total TOs right now
ALthough that's slightly better than Cam's sophmore slump year, it's not even close to Cam's rookie season where Cam was a top 4 QB production wise in the NFC last year.
People are overrating Andrew Luck based on team performance.
And it's not like most of the teams that Colts have beaten have been exactly juggernauts outside of that emotional win over the Packers |
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Tom Shean
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| BBIB wrote: | | El ramster wrote: | let me see how he does after the sophmore slump.
Also, he'll hit a Rookie wall. RG is just starting to come
back to earth. I love me some Luck, Hard not to root for the
colts. Luck has been playing amazing, Like others have said. He's
been playing top 7 this year. Just amazing! truly amazing. |
A lot of all of this has to do with how many people don't like Cam Newton and thought he would be a bust
That's why after 4-5 games people say RGIII is already better than Cam even though Cam's rookie season was more impressive
And still Cam Newton's rookie season is more impressive than the pace of Andrew Luck right now
Andrew Luck has a whopping 13 total TDs and 11 total TOs right now
ALthough that's slightly better than Cam's sophmore slump year, it's not even close to Cam's rookie season where Cam was a top 4 QB production wise in the NFC last year.
People are overrating Andrew Luck based on team performance.
And it's not like most of the teams that Colts have beaten have been exactly juggernauts outside of that emotional win over the Packers |
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BBIB
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LOL great rebuttal
Cam Newton Rookie Year
Through 8 Games
2712 yards
18 TDs
11 TOs
Andrew Luck Through 8 Games
2552 total yards
13 TDs
11 TOs |
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Django
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Luck >>>> RG3 > Cam
Thats not a knock on them. Luck is just that outstanding. |
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JTagg7754
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| BBIB wrote: | | El ramster wrote: | let me see how he does after the sophmore slump.
Also, he'll hit a Rookie wall. RG is just starting to come
back to earth. I love me some Luck, Hard not to root for the
colts. Luck has been playing amazing, Like others have said. He's
been playing top 7 this year. Just amazing! truly amazing. |
A lot of all of this has to do with how many people don't like Cam Newton and thought he would be a bust
That's why after 4-5 games people say RGIII is already better than Cam even though Cam's rookie season was more impressive
And still Cam Newton's rookie season is more impressive than the pace of Andrew Luck right now
Andrew Luck has a whopping 13 total TDs and 11 total TOs right now
ALthough that's slightly better than Cam's sophmore slump year, it's not even close to Cam's rookie season where Cam was a top 4 QB production wise in the NFC last year.
People are overrating Andrew Luck based on team performance.
And it's not like most of the teams that Colts have beaten have been exactly juggernauts outside of that emotional win over the Packers |
When it's all said and done, I think Luck's rookie campaign will be better than Cam's although the numbers won't show it. People love numbers and aren't realizing that Luck has taken a 2-14 team that went through a massive overhaul in coaching, the front office, and players, and he's making them look like they'll be a force in a few years. Cam just threw a ton of 50/50 balls and his guys came down w/ them.
While I agree people are overrating Luck, it's not nearly the extent people were overrating Cam.
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not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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JTagg7754
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| BBIB wrote: |
LOL great rebuttal
Cam Newton Rookie Year
Through 8 Games
2712 yards
18 TDs
11 TOs
Andrew Luck Through 8 Games
2552 total yards
13 TDs
11 TOs |
Cam was also 2-6 on a team that was probably better talent wise.
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| NCOUGHMAN wrote: | | Quote: |
you wouldnt want Rodgers Brady or Manning in his prime as your QBs? |
not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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Tom Shean
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| BBIB wrote: |
LOL great rebuttal
Cam Newton Rookie Year
Through 8 Games
2712 yards
18 TDs
11 TOs
Andrew Luck Through 8 Games
2552 total yards
13 TDs
11 TOs |
I'm on my iPod right now, I'll rebuttal the crap out of that once in home
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cpanthers178990
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | Cam just threw a ton of 50/50 balls and his guys came down w/ them.
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Seriously, I wish Cam would make perfect decision like Luck does. Like this one for example.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/indianapolis-colts/0ap2000000089772/T-Y-Hilton-TD-catch
Even though this pass was 67-33 in favor of the Dolphins, it was a great decision because it was Andrew Luck instead of Cam Newton.
We get it, you don't watch football.
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cpanthers178990
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| Django wrote: | Luck >>>> RG3 > Cam
Thats not a knock on them. Luck is just that outstanding. |
I really don't have a problem putting Luck over Cam, but RG3 is a big no no.
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