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Bleedin_Green36
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Back to back 8-8 seasons would get 90% of the coaches in the league fired IMO.
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| tbrown2699 wrote: | | canadaluvsdalla wrote: | | titwio wrote: | | GoPackGo wrote: | | What if they finish 9-7 but miss the playoffs? Does that still cut it? |
I'm guessing no. |
Not sure about that one. Its the NFC East. Hardest Division in football. |
Cough, cough... AFC North... |
I could honestly see both the Ravens and Bengals regressing quite a bit this year.
Ravens - Losing the DMVP and their best pass rusher could cost them a few games.
Bengals - Sophomore slump tends to happen when teams have a lot of game tape on you. Do Dalton and Green regress a little?
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coors
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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I think by coming out and saying this on the record is a bad move. now, the entire season.. each loss will have people counting down to #8 calling for Andy's head. If going 8-8 was going to get him fired, than so be it. Fire him at the end of the season. Bringing this up now does nothing but hurt IMO.
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WhackyPlague
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Bleedin_Green36 wrote: | | Back to back 8-8 seasons would get 90% of the coaches in the league fired IMO. |
Every coach not on a rebuilding team, probably. |
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RAVINGMADD
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Matts4313 wrote: | | titwio wrote: | | GoPackGo wrote: | | What if they finish 9-7 but miss the playoffs? Does that still cut it? |
I'm guessing no. |
7-9, but make the playoffs and beat a superbowl contender ala Seahawks style?
What now? |
Or 8-8 and lose the Super Bowl? Elway was pretty quick to trade Tebow, so maybe one win in the playoffs isn't cutting it Reid. |
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eagles101
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| WhackyPlague wrote: | | Bleedin_Green36 wrote: | | Back to back 8-8 seasons would get 90% of the coaches in the league fired IMO. |
Every coach not on a rebuilding team, probably. |
and dont have serious injuries both years. and the coaches that dont have high standings with there teams, ala BB, tomlin, etc
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Keleth
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| WhackyPlague wrote: | | TT4Life7 wrote: | Why do FO's feel the need to make information like this public?
I don't even... |
They didn't. Lurie still said too much, but all he said was that an 8-8 record is unacceptable for a team that is, on paper, as good as the Eagles are. Which is true. |
Don't bother trying to explain things.
People just read the headlined quote and not actually read it in context and the media live off of this sort of thing. |
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titwio
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| Matts4313 wrote: | | titwio wrote: | | GoPackGo wrote: | | What if they finish 9-7 but miss the playoffs? Does that still cut it? |
I'm guessing no. |
7-9, but make the playoffs and beat a superbowl contender ala Seahawks style?
What now? |
They win a SB yes, he's safe. They win one game in the playoffs but bomb the next...I'm guessing no.
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coors
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Lets say that the Iggles do end up finishing the year at 8-8, most likely missing the playoffs. I don't know if its just me as an outsider.. but I don't see firing Andy making them any better. Who is available at Head Coach right now that people see would be better? I don't think any HC would necessarily be better at utilizing Mike Vicks skills. From what I see on TV and read, it seems like most every single member of the Eagles loves Andy Reid and has him in the highest regard when it comes to respect. I guess my point is simply that if the Eagles fired Reid, who is out there for them to bring in as their Head Coach that is better than Andy? I personally would think that going out and bringing in a proven defensive coordinator with a solid track record of being a defensive coordinator would be a better more. Hell, the same even goes for the offense. If they want to move away from Andy Reid's style of offense and try a new direction, why not bring in a proven offensive coordinator to take the reigns on the offensive side of the ball? We all know how much respect that Andy himself has in that organization, so why not bring in 2 proven top notch coordinators and keep Andy as the Head Coach in the mold of a Mike Tomlin with the Steelers? Tomlin has a OC and DC who run their respective sides of the ball, while he himself has the task of motivation and other general Head Coach responsibilities?
As an outsider when talking about the Philly franchise, for some reason I just don't see Andy Reid as being their issue.
Also, just my $0.02..
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steelcurtain29
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So what happens when they go 8-8, but make the playoffs?
Didn't they just get done saying Reid is here for as long as he wants? 
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| coors wrote: | Lets say that the Iggles do end up finishing the year at 8-8, most likely missing the playoffs. I don't know if its just me as an outsider.. but I don't see firing Andy making them any better. Who is available at Head Coach right now that people see would be better? I don't think any HC would necessarily be better at utilizing Mike Vicks skills. From what I see on TV and read, it seems like most every single member of the Eagles loves Andy Reid and has him in the highest regard when it comes to respect. I guess my point is simply that if the Eagles fired Reid, who is out there for them to bring in as their Head Coach that is better than Andy? I personally would think that going out and bringing in a proven defensive coordinator with a solid track record of being a defensive coordinator would be a better more. Hell, the same even goes for the offense. If they want to move away from Andy Reid's style of offense and try a new direction, why not bring in a proven offensive coordinator to take the reigns on the offensive side of the ball? We all know how much respect that Andy himself has in that organization, so why not bring in 2 proven top notch coordinators and keep Andy as the Head Coach in the mold of a Mike Tomlin with the Steelers? Tomlin has a OC and DC who run their respective sides of the ball, while he himself has the task of motivation and other general Head Coach responsibilities?
As an outsider when talking about the Philly franchise, for some reason I just don't see Andy Reid as being their issue.
Also, just my $0.02.. |
im half and half on this. i like Andy and hes a great coach....but i think he had a much better team with mcnabb and he wasnt able to get over the hump. i would like to see us get another young QB and see what Andy can do with that but i dont see that happening. Andy is a great coach and it would be hard to replace him but at the same time this team has kept regressing and if we dont pick it up this year, i woulndt mind a change.
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TT4Life7
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| Keleth wrote: | | WhackyPlague wrote: | | TT4Life7 wrote: | Why do FO's feel the need to make information like this public?
I don't even... |
They didn't. Lurie still said too much, but all he said was that an 8-8 record is unacceptable for a team that is, on paper, as good as the Eagles are. Which is true. |
Don't bother trying to explain things.
People just read the headlined quote and not actually read it in context and the media live off of this sort of thing. |
Just saying that words like this is best said between the FO and the HC, no one else. This just adds much more pressure on a coach and his team, but then again maybe this is what he needed.
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Fitz2k2
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I'm ready for a new coach who knows how to run the team in a balance way
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titwio
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| Fitz2k2 wrote: | | I'm ready for a new coach who knows how to run the team in a balanced way |
Ray Handley or Rich Kotite? 
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MathMan
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:15 am Post subject: |
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If the Eagles are 7-8 going into the last game, what does Reid do??...
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