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Seahawks release TE Kellen Winslow; Sign TE Evan Moore
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SaveourSonics wrote:
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chris00cm wrote:
Nice swap. A decent fan of Moore.


worse blocker than K2, if thats possible.

Good pass catcher.

Has had problems with head injuries.

Was super sure handed until one time he got clocked in the head and dropped the ball. Now he tends to miss a couple.
Made some boneheaded penalties last year.


So he's gonna be an all-star with Seattle than?


lolol
prob not.

he'll prob make it this year maybe next but then he'll be on his way out of SEA until you find someone better at blocking.

whenever moore is on the field its pretty much saying its a pass.
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Man, I liked him in Madden Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
whenever moore is on the field its pretty much saying its a pass.


Well he'll play the Cam Morrah #3 receiving TE role so that would make sense.
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KW2 has had a solid season every year that he hasn't been injured, how is he even being considered a bust? It's not as if his career is over yet either.

The only real knock on him is that he's not a good blocker, and he doesn't score many TDs. It's not as if he's been Antonio Gates or anything, but most of his years he's played at a borderline Pro-Bowl level if you just consider his receiving production.
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Sefarian-Jenkins in 2014? I wouldn't mind....
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KW2 has had a solid season every year that he hasn't been injured, how is he even being considered a bust? It's not as if his career is over yet either.

The only real knock on him is that he's not a good blocker, and he doesn't score many TDs. It's not as if he's been Antonio Gates or anything, but most of his years he's played at a borderline Pro-Bowl level if you just consider his receiving production.


He made the pro-bowl for his original team and then managed to net a 2nd rounder in his departure

I certainly wouldnt call him a bust.
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floppyflaps wrote:
KW2 has had a solid season every year that he hasn't been injured, how is he even being considered a bust? It's not as if his career is over yet either.

The only real knock on him is that he's not a good blocker, and he doesn't score many TDs. It's not as if he's been Antonio Gates or anything, but most of his years he's played at a borderline Pro-Bowl level if you just consider his receiving production.


There was a year or two while he was on the Browns where I'd say he was a top five tight end.

Anyway, I like Evan Moore and feel he's a good addition to the Seahawks. He never seemed to become the player I thought he'd become, though. He's a good receiving tight end and that's about it. He sometimes gets lazy when the ball is thrown his way and drops what should be an easy catch. Still, he'll be a backup in Seattle so they will only need him to catch the ball.
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DawgX wrote:
floppyflaps wrote:
KW2 has had a solid season every year that he hasn't been injured, how is he even being considered a bust? It's not as if his career is over yet either.

The only real knock on him is that he's not a good blocker, and he doesn't score many TDs. It's not as if he's been Antonio Gates or anything, but most of his years he's played at a borderline Pro-Bowl level if you just consider his receiving production.


There was a year or two while he was on the Browns where I'd say he was a top five tight end.

Anyway, I like Evan Moore and feel he's a good addition to the Seahawks. He never seemed to become the player I thought he'd become, though. He's a good receiving tight end and that's about it. He sometimes gets lazy when the ball is thrown his way and drops what should be an easy catch. Still, he'll be a backup in Seattle so they will only need him to catch the ball.


Bingo. He will likely fill K2's role, which was mostly to catch the ball out of many formations.
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Sefarian-Jenkins in 2014? I wouldn't mind....


That would be ideal.
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Other than being former Browns, the other thing that Moore and Winslow have in common is their blocking skills. Actually, I wouldn't say that it's just a matter of skills. Like Winslow, Moore does not even try to block anyone. He's a poor man's Winslow when it comes to catching passes. Really, his only potential value is if he's used in the red zone in obvious passing downs. He can go up and get it if he's matched up right. All in all, okay move for Seattle, because Winslow was probably a malcontent, and they probably didn't have any other choice. Kellen Knieval will probably land somewhere else as long as he can pass a physical.
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Raiders or Dolphins should get him. Joe Philbin probably doesn't want him, but the Dolphins need any targets they can get. Raiders just lack TEs in general.
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The dude just doesn't have the will to play hard anymore.
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mfw096 wrote:
The dude just doesn't have the will to play hard anymore.


Not really, he played hard whilst he was on the Seahawks
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I feel like Kellen Winslow was drafted so high at #6 in 2004 was because he was supposed to turn into the player/TE that Rob Gronkowski is currently. And by that, I mean a TE who is dominant because of his size/athleticism to go along with great hands. I feel like Rob is what Kellen was supposed to be.
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coors wrote:
I feel like Kellen Winslow was drafted so high at #6 in 2004 was because he was supposed to turn into the player/TE that Rob Gronkowski is currently. And by that, I mean a TE who is dominant because of his size/athleticism to go along with great hands. I feel like Rob is what Kellen was supposed to be.


You are exactly right. He could of become that player had he never gotten on the motorbike. Not saying it was a lock but there was a chance he could of been that good. He wrecked his knees bigtime. I'm impressed he has been able to be as good as he has been.
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