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Hopefully the Jags, gives him more money/years.
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Fired-up... Hijacking thread since July 27 2012.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| carnageehw wrote: | MJD doesn't really seem to get that the rb position just isn't valuable any more. Also ,he might have had a decent chance at renewing NEXT year, as alot of teams will renegotiate in the last year, to keep the player out of free agency.
As it is, he's made a bad impression with the new regime, and will likley have a pretty crappy year ( if history has anything to say) hurting his chances for a better deal.
I don't blame players for holding out (Javon Walker, anyone?), but this didn;t really make ANY logical sense. |
Well, and this is just really playing Devil's Advocate. We say that because we can sit from afar and note that the league is favoring a pass-heavy culture more and more. However, from the perspective of this player he's now witnessed players he outproduced get money comparable to what some of the upper tier WR's in the league are making (this does selectively ignore that he outproduced these players while - can't say because because revisionist history is ignorant - they were injured... at least AP and Foster). On top of that he just watched a team use a Top 5 pick on a RB who was billed as being "the complete package" (a term used to describe MJD quite a bit in recent past too).
There's arguments to be made for both sides. We're in a case where it's shades of gray not black or white. We've got a team whose new owner - no doubt in an attempt to try and jump onto and ride the wave in the league of big time marketing behind passing offenses - wants to place more of an emphasis on their pass offense. Couple that with the recent benchmark of all the guaranteed monies from his current contract having been met, and it becomes a case of the player just being SOL, so to speak. Circumstances dashed most if not any opportunity for leverage that he might have had.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| carnageehw wrote: | | As it is, he's made a bad impression with the new regime, and will likley have a pretty crappy year ( if history has anything to say) hurting his chances for a better deal. |
History of what, exactly? MJD missed the entire offseason last year, and he didn't do too bad. Emmit Smith held out into the regular season and came back and led the league in rushing as well. Just because Chris Johnson was lazy while sitting out last year doesn't mean Jones Drew was this year. In fact, Jones Drew was working out every day to stay in the best shape possible. He has his head on straight, unlike the some others.
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mfw096
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Can't wait to see karma get him this year...
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| mfw096 wrote: | | Can't wait to see karma get him this year... |
haha what the heck did he ever do to you?
I just don't get the hate for this guy, he's a class act as far as I'm concerned.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Canadian_Patriot wrote: | | mfw096 wrote: | | Can't wait to see karma get him this year... |
haha what the heck did he ever do to you?
I just don't get the hate for this guy, he's a class act as far as I'm concerned. |
He's always been one of my favorites. Anytime he has been on NFLN, which is quite often, he's shined with his charisma and personality. Guy comes off as a legit great guy. One hold out isn't going to change that for me. He tried to buck the system and failed. I can't blame him for trying to squeeze more money out of the Jags because he is by FAR their best player at a position that just doesn't hold value over the age of 28. If he plays out his contract and he'll be close to 30. His last chance to hit a big money contract was to hold out and see if the Jags would give it to him. Khan held his ground, can't blame him either, and MJD lost. Definitely no reason to bad mouth him for it.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| Ketchup wrote: | | Canadian_Patriot wrote: | | mfw096 wrote: | | Can't wait to see karma get him this year... |
haha what the heck did he ever do to you?
I just don't get the hate for this guy, he's a class act as far as I'm concerned. |
He's always been one of my favorites. Anytime he has been on NFLN, which is quite often, he's shined with his charisma and personality. Guy comes off as a legit great guy. One hold out isn't going to change that for me. He tried to buck the system and failed. I can't blame him for trying to squeeze more money out of the Jags because he is by FAR their best player at a position that just doesn't hold value over the age of 28. If he plays out his contract and he'll be close to 30. His last chance to hit a big money contract was to hold out and see if the Jags would give it to him. Khan held his ground, can't blame him either, and MJD lost. Definitely no reason to bad mouth him for it. |
I don't hate MJD I just can't stand the fact players do this especially after getting all that money up front. Just greedy .
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The overuse of the term karma in today's society is getting ridiculous.
I know Jennings is starting Week 1, but will MJD get his share of carries? |
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| Vikefan79 wrote: | | The Vikings have never lost a player they wanted to resign due to cap issues since Rob Brzezinski has been our vice president. He's one of the best cap strategists in the NFL. Hell he told the NFL about the poison pill before the NFL knew about it and because they sat around for years and did nothing about it he used it to steal Steve Hutchinson from the Seahawks. Peterson isn't holding this team back in any way. |
Just another name to put on my hit list....
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| SaveourSonics wrote: | | Vikefan79 wrote: | | The Vikings have never lost a player they wanted to resign due to cap issues since Rob Brzezinski has been our vice president. He's one of the best cap strategists in the NFL. Hell he told the NFL about the poison pill before the NFL knew about it and because they sat around for years and did nothing about it he used it to steal Steve Hutchinson from the Seahawks. Peterson isn't holding this team back in any way. |
Just another name to put on my hit list.... |
Well, you guys did steel Nate Burleson from us. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Can't believe he caved. He had them by the balls.
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| mfw096 wrote: | | Ketchup wrote: | | Canadian_Patriot wrote: | | mfw096 wrote: | | Can't wait to see karma get him this year... |
haha what the heck did he ever do to you?
I just don't get the hate for this guy, he's a class act as far as I'm concerned. |
He's always been one of my favorites. Anytime he has been on NFLN, which is quite often, he's shined with his charisma and personality. Guy comes off as a legit great guy. One hold out isn't going to change that for me. He tried to buck the system and failed. I can't blame him for trying to squeeze more money out of the Jags because he is by FAR their best player at a position that just doesn't hold value over the age of 28. If he plays out his contract and he'll be close to 30. His last chance to hit a big money contract was to hold out and see if the Jags would give it to him. Khan held his ground, can't blame him either, and MJD lost. Definitely no reason to bad mouth him for it. |
I don't hate MJD I just can't stand the fact players do this especially after getting all that money up front. Just greedy . |
He didn't get money upfront.
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| steadypimpin wrote: | | Can't believe he caved. He had them by the balls. |
Quite to the contrary. The team made it clear they were ready to move on without him. Jennings has been looking great and though he is no MJD, he would be a capable starter. He had two years left on his contract that he was well paid before he even really earned it. While having MJD would clearly help the Jags it wouldn't suddenly turn them into a playoff team, that's all on Gabbert. So while I understand his position, he really had no leverage here. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| steadypimpin wrote: | | Can't believe he caved. He had them by the balls. |
No, no he didn't.
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