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sbrown


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW that back shoulder td pass to K williams was beautiful. I saw alex attempt to make passes like that early in his career with little success. then he went away from it. When he has confidence he can do some really great things.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, PFF grades every player and as you can see by the rankings, ever O-line member from the Niners is ranked very high. Now, some question the way they grade but it is clear the Niners have had the best run blocking OL through five weeks.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J-ALL-DAY wrote:
Ok, PFF grades every player and as you can see by the rankings, ever O-line member from the Niners is ranked very high. Now, some question the way they grade but it is clear the Niners have had the best run blocking OL through five weeks.


I like the way PFF grades the players with a week to week graph. Looks about right. Really think the quick passes are making them look better than they are... but no doubt, they have been better than last year.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldman9er wrote:
I like the way PFF grades the players with a week to week graph. Looks about right. Really think the quick passes are making them look better than they are... but no doubt, they have been better than last year.


Yeah, I question some of the questionable metrics for the DBs at times but they are pretty good. Still, by no accident is every member in the upper echelon of their respective positions. More so than the pass blocking, I was using their rankings to show our dominance in the run blocking category.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J-ALL-DAY wrote:
oldman9er wrote:
I like the way PFF grades the players with a week to week graph. Looks about right. Really think the quick passes are making them look better than they are... but no doubt, they have been better than last year.


Yeah, I question some of the questionable metrics for the DBs at times but they are pretty good. Still, by no accident is every member in the upper echelon of their respective positions. More so than the pass blocking, I was using their rankings to show our dominance in the run blocking category.


Definitely run blocking very well... love the creative pulls and utilization of the OL and TEs.

Also what is cool to see on the pass pro... Boone pulls to the weakside to block a RE as Walker +/or VD stay in to block on the strongside to make up for that absence. Very creative indeed! I'd like to see our TEs and RBs do a better job on the cutblocks.. and again.. a lil more improvement from the interior when zone blocking... but oh my... we are getting very good very quickly. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, the creativity is what sets us apart from other teams. Lets just hope it continues and we can stop committing penalties that bring back big plays.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J-ALL-DAY wrote:
Agreed, the creativity is what sets us apart from other teams. Lets just hope it continues and we can stop committing penalties that bring back big plays.


Oh man, yeah... those penalties were just straight stupid. Really hated and disagreed with the "tripping call" on Walker. There was nothing clear and obvious about that one.

... and Gore has to be more focused on who he is blocking (the chop-block).

PFF has us ranked 7th in offensive penalties... which you probably well know.

edit: wanted to see our overall penalty yds per game


66 vs GB
62 vs DET
60 vs MIN
67 vs NYJ
53 vs BUF
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes! For as well coached of a team we have, the penalties need to stop. We are looking like the Raiders Laughing .
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J-ALL-DAY wrote:
Ok, PFF grades every player and as you can see by the rankings, ever O-line member from the Niners is ranked very high. Now, some question the way they grade but it is clear the Niners have had the best run blocking OL through five weeks.


You have to understand how the rankings are made. It has nothing to do with observing their play and then deciding they are playing well. It has to do with results of plays where they are on the field. With our running game working as well as it is their methodology would result in the line being ranked high.

While this is intuitive, it's nowhere near how "experts" would evaluate guys after watching them play.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure about that as they do grade every single player separately.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldman9er wrote:
J-ALL-DAY wrote:
Agreed, the creativity is what sets us apart from other teams. Lets just hope it continues and we can stop committing penalties that bring back big plays.


Oh man, yeah... those penalties were just straight stupid. Really hated and disagreed with the "tripping call" on Walker. There was nothing clear and obvious about that one.

... and Gore has to be more focused on who he is blocking (the chop-block).

PFF has us ranked 7th in offensive penalties... which you probably well know.

edit: wanted to see our overall penalty yds per game


66 vs GB
62 vs DET
60 vs MIN
67 vs NYJ
53 vs BUF


Felt like checking last season's penalties per first 5 games... the results?

102 yds vs SEA
25 yds vs DAL
70 yds vs CIN
40 yds vs PHI
30 yds vs TB

... and just because I remembered how horrid week 6 was...

120 yds vs DET .. Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex smith ESPN numbers never lie

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JU6Dx4RShZc
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RickyG wrote:
Alex smith ESPN numbers never lie

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JU6Dx4RShZc


Here's the desktop link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU6Dx4RShZc
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoCalNiner wrote:
RickyG wrote:
Alex smith ESPN numbers never lie

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JU6Dx4RShZc


Here's the desktop link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU6Dx4RShZc


Freakin amazing!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote




Culliver Crying or Very sad

Rogers actually didn't play all that bad but I believe most of the yards came in the first half including the TD to Cruz. However, if you look back on that play, Whitner bit on the PA when he might have supposed to give him some help in the middle.
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