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mistakebytehlak


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jb_gobills wrote:
hornbybrown wrote:
IM BACK DID YOU MISS ME?

NOTE TO ALL YOU BILLS FANS

WE ARE JUST MESSING AROUND

don't be offended

we bring the lulzz hard

you should try it makes the tough times following a bad team so much better


JB LIKES TO YELL SOMETIMES TOO

HORNYBY AMUSES JB

WHY AM I YELLING IN THE THIRD PERSON?

LET'S GO BILLS!


YEEEEE JB YEEEEE
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
jb_gobills wrote:
hornbybrown wrote:
IM BACK DID YOU MISS ME?

NOTE TO ALL YOU BILLS FANS

WE ARE JUST MESSING AROUND

don't be offended

we bring the lulzz hard

you should try it makes the tough times following a bad team so much better


JB LIKES TO YELL SOMETIMES TOO

HORNYBY AMUSES JB

WHY AM I YELLING IN THE THIRD PERSON?

LET'S GO BILLS!


YEEEEE JB YEEEEE





Wait Wait Wait



You're telling me that you are living in NY State, and I am living in Ohio...that....that




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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After all these years, the Bills finally have a team that can dominate in the trenches. I can't remember the last time Buffalo has had a good DL and OL at the same time.. I have high hopes for this season because if we win the battles in the trenches, we should win.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bills 27
Browns 13

We are good against the run, I dont think Richardson goesnoff against us.. And another quality game from Spiller
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
jb_gobills wrote:
hornbybrown wrote:
IM BACK DID YOU MISS ME?

NOTE TO ALL YOU BILLS FANS

WE ARE JUST MESSING AROUND

don't be offended

we bring the lulzz hard

you should try it makes the tough times following a bad team so much better


JB LIKES TO YELL SOMETIMES TOO

HORNYBY AMUSES JB

WHY AM I YELLING IN THE THIRD PERSON?

LET'S GO BILLS!


YEEEEE JB YEEEEE



LOUD NOISES!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trentwannabe wrote:
a lot of people seem to believe we don't match up well with Cleveland and that they are built to stop what we do best. All I can say is..

Gailey over Jauron

Bills offense over Browns Offense

Wanny vs Shumer =a tie.


Bills 30 Browns 14


I wouldnt necessarily say your offense is better than ours
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Trentwannabe wrote:
a lot of people seem to believe we don't match up well with Cleveland and that they are built to stop what we do best. All I can say is..

Gailey over Jauron

Bills offense over Browns Offense

Wanny vs Shumer =a tie.


Bills 30 Browns 14


I wouldnt necessarily say your offense is better than ours


I'll guess we'll have to wait and see. I really don't think your offense is where ours is right now.

Fitz >>> Weeden (honestly not even close)

Spiller > T. Richardson (as of now, Richardson has a bright future)

Stevie > Greg Little

Our WR depth = Yours (both teams are pretty weak here)

Chandler > Watson

Our OL > Yours (Much respect to Thomas and Mack though).

If you break it down like that I think we have a much better unit, and that's without Fred Jackson, arguably our best offensive weapon.

Defense is a different story.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickChowaniec wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Trentwannabe wrote:
a lot of people seem to believe we don't match up well with Cleveland and that they are built to stop what we do best. All I can say is..

Gailey over Jauron

Bills offense over Browns Offense

Wanny vs Shumer =a tie.


Bills 30 Browns 14


I wouldnt necessarily say your offense is better than ours


I'll guess we'll have to wait and see. I really don't think your offense is where ours is right now.

Fitz >>> Weeden (honestly not even close)

Spiller > T. Richardson (as of now, Richardson has a bright future)

Stevie > Greg Little

Our WR depth = Yours (both teams are pretty weak here)

Chandler > Watson

Our OL > Yours (Much respect to Thomas and Mack though).

If you break it down like that I think we have a much better unit, and that's without Fred Jackson, arguably our best offensive weapon.

Defense is a different story.


Honestly i see nothing but an average QB when I see fitz.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickChowaniec wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Trentwannabe wrote:
a lot of people seem to believe we don't match up well with Cleveland and that they are built to stop what we do best. All I can say is..

Gailey over Jauron

Bills offense over Browns Offense

Wanny vs Shumer =a tie.


Bills 30 Browns 14


I wouldnt necessarily say your offense is better than ours


I'll guess we'll have to wait and see. I really don't think your offense is where ours is right now.

Fitz >>> Weeden (honestly not even close)

Spiller > T. Richardson (as of now, Richardson has a bright future)

Stevie > Greg Little

Our WR depth = Yours (both teams are pretty weak here)

Chandler > Watson

Our OL > Yours (Much respect to Thomas and Mack though).

If you break it down like that I think we have a much better unit, and that's without Fred Jackson, arguably our best offensive weapon.

Defense is a different story.


your LOL > ours?
LOL

there is no such thing as a >>> operator, btw

scott chandler has 488 career yards. lets not get ahead of ourselves.

i'd definitely take Little, Massaquoi, Gordon, Benjamin and Norwood over your WRs, but I'm sure you'd say the same thing about yours.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
NickChowaniec wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Trentwannabe wrote:
a lot of people seem to believe we don't match up well with Cleveland and that they are built to stop what we do best. All I can say is..

Gailey over Jauron

Bills offense over Browns Offense

Wanny vs Shumer =a tie.


Bills 30 Browns 14


I wouldnt necessarily say your offense is better than ours


I'll guess we'll have to wait and see. I really don't think your offense is where ours is right now.

Fitz >>> Weeden (honestly not even close)

Spiller > T. Richardson (as of now, Richardson has a bright future)

Stevie > Greg Little

Our WR depth = Yours (both teams are pretty weak here)

Chandler > Watson

Our OL > Yours (Much respect to Thomas and Mack though).

If you break it down like that I think we have a much better unit, and that's without Fred Jackson, arguably our best offensive weapon.

Defense is a different story.


your LOL > ours?
LOL


there is no such thing as a >>> operator, btw

scott chandler has 488 career yards. lets not get ahead of ourselves.

i'd definitely take Little, Massaquoi, Gordon, Benjamin and Norwood over your WRs, but I'm sure you'd say the same thing about yours.


What are you 12? Let's debate like mature adults, not 12 year old pre-teens. Rolling Eyes

Maybe this will make you understand my point. Fitzpatrick > Weeden. Better? I think you can put two and two together regardless.

And by that, I'm saying Fitzpatrick's veteran leadership and knowledge of our offense is what separates him from Weeden by a far margin. By no means do I think he is anything more than an average QB. I see Weeden the same way, I don't think he will ever be more than an average QB. With that said, at this point, Weeden is not at Fitzpatrick's level. Do I think he will surpass him? Probably.

As for Chandler, you need to watch him to make a fair judgement. He does not rack up yards like a Graham or Gronkowski. If you look at this year and last, he is a tremendous (6'7'') redzone target for us. He has a TD in both games so far this year. I think he is very undervalued.

As for the WR argument, I agree with what you said. I think with a healthy David Nelson we might edge you out, but nobody really has a clear egde. Both offenses could use a #2 WR in next years draft.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No matter the outcome, the Factory of Sadness always wins.

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These are the games we need to win to make the playoffs. The winnable games.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickChowaniec wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
NickChowaniec wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Trentwannabe wrote:
a lot of people seem to believe we don't match up well with Cleveland and that they are built to stop what we do best. All I can say is..

Gailey over Jauron

Bills offense over Browns Offense

Wanny vs Shumer =a tie.


Bills 30 Browns 14


I wouldnt necessarily say your offense is better than ours


I'll guess we'll have to wait and see. I really don't think your offense is where ours is right now.

Fitz >>> Weeden (honestly not even close)

Spiller > T. Richardson (as of now, Richardson has a bright future)

Stevie > Greg Little

Our WR depth = Yours (both teams are pretty weak here)

Chandler > Watson

Our OL > Yours (Much respect to Thomas and Mack though).

If you break it down like that I think we have a much better unit, and that's without Fred Jackson, arguably our best offensive weapon.

Defense is a different story.


your LOL > ours?
LOL


there is no such thing as a >>> operator, btw

scott chandler has 488 career yards. lets not get ahead of ourselves.

i'd definitely take Little, Massaquoi, Gordon, Benjamin and Norwood over your WRs, but I'm sure you'd say the same thing about yours.


What are you 12? Let's debate like mature adults, not 12 year old pre-teens. Rolling Eyes

Maybe this will make you understand my point. Fitzpatrick > Weeden. Better? I think you can put two and two together regardless.

And by that, I'm saying Fitzpatrick's veteran leadership and knowledge of our offense is what separates him from Weeden by a far margin. By no means do I think he is anything more than an average QB. I see Weeden the same way, I don't think he will ever be more than an average QB. With that said, at this point, Weeden is not at Fitzpatrick's level. Do I think he will surpass him? Probably.

As for Chandler, you need to watch him to make a fair judgement. He does not rack up yards like a Graham or Gronkowski. If you look at this year and last, he is a tremendous (6'7'') redzone target for us. He has a TD in both games so far this year. I think he is very undervalued.

As for the WR argument, I agree with what you said. I think with a healthy David Nelson we might edge you out, but nobody really has a clear egde. Both offenses could use a #2 WR in next years draft.


I understood your point, but as an applied mathematician, this idea that if you add more >'s to the > operator, it somehow makes it more viable pisses me off royally (unless of course you're comparing vectors and you use the >> operator).

Weeden's arm > Fitz's
If Weeden plays like he did last week, it doesnt matter how good Fitz is simply because Weeden will be good enough for any team to win a game.

Considering our top 5 WRs are all under 26, and our top 3 WRs are impressing our coaching staff, I doubt we'll be taking a #2 WR in next years draft.
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Bills inactives:

QB Tarvaris Jackson
RB Fred Jackson
WR Ruvell Martin
OT Sam Young
OG Colin Brown
DE Kyle Moore
LB Kirk Morrison
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