BYE Week Discussion Thread: Where do we go from here?

xjayex · Joined: 22 Sep 2008 Posts: 1263

Defense has some major issues.

O-line needs to learn to run block.

Imo, those two things are the major reasons we're 1-2. It's going to be sad if Ben, Wallace and Brown have an amazing year and we miss the playoffs.

stefan52268 · Joined: 14 Apr 2010 Posts: 6488 Location: Pittsburgh

Work on run blocking and running game period. Just more consistency on positive yardage.

Make adjustments on Defense. It might be time to give others a chance if they are capable. I know Troy will most likely be back and there isn't much depth in the secondary but hopefully someone can step up and be better than Mundy. If not, that's pretty bad.

Hopefully with Harrison returning they will rush the passer with both he and Woodley.

Obviously try and create more turnovers.

More discipline. Too many costly penalties. I know they happen but we drives had stalled on O, Extended on D and it seems like every punt return there is some sort of penalty.
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Leader O'Cola · Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:59 am Post subject:

Leader O'Cola · Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:00 am Post subject:

How many blown 10-point 2nd-half leads does Tomlin have under his belt now ?
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stillersenat · Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 9648 Location: In over my head.

Leader O'Cola · Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:31 am Post subject:

SMashMouthMike · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 3825

5.4 yards per play.
4.3 yards per rush.
6.9 yards per completion.
48 % conversion rate on 3rd down
25 points per game

1 INT
5 Sacks

Where is the Steel Curtain?
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JDLefebvre · Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:51 am Post subject:

Leader O'Cola · Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:53 am Post subject:

at23steelers · Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 3721 Location: United States

Ward4HOF · Joined: 11 Apr 2011 Posts: 2586

I said some in the game thread, but overall, we are not a good football team. We have great players, but they are not playing like a team, IMO.

How much has the loss of Ward, Smith, and Farrior affected out team? I honestly think that notion has at leasty some credence. I wouldn't have believed it 3 weeks ago, but now I do wonder a bit.

And those counting on Troy and Harrison? Both missed time last year and we still prevailed. We weren't great, but we weren't this bad either.
Worilds and Carter are disappointments. Mundy? OK, moving on. So Troy and Deebo will help, but I'm certainly not going to count on both of them not missing anymore time this year. They'll come back and may give us 3-4 wins at best, that w/o them, we'd lose, like this week.

Ben is on fire, but how long will that last? Will Mendy help? Or is it our OL that is the problem? Sloppy ball handling has to be fixed. Dwyer's and Brown's fumbles lost us this game--no doubt in my mind.

Special Teams is a joke. Why did they fire Everest? Big mistake IMO. He had our ST playing pretty decent last year, IIRC. This is going to cost us this season, just watch. When Swishy is our best ST player, well...

I really do not see any quick fixes. I think this year is going to be a rough one. I'm really not trying to overreact, but I honestly feel we are headed for a 7-9/8-8 season at best. This year is looking ominously similar to 2003. Ben may have a great statistical year, but this team is in disarray, IMO, on many levels.

Next year's draft needs to be, in Rds 1-3 in any order, ILB, OLB, FS/SS. How I see the AFCN final standings this year?

Ravens -- 12-4
Bengals -- 10-6
Steelers -- 8-8 (W=@Ten, Was, KC, @CLE, SD, CIN, CLE)
Browns -- 4-12
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at23steelers · Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 3721 Location: United States

@Ward: You're a great poster and all, but it seems like an overreaction. While, most of what you said holds true, this is still game 3, heading into a bye. Im sure if we pulled it out when we were leading 31-21, people would have a much different perspective right now. But can 1-2 quarters really change someone's perspective on how the whole season will go? We have the talent, it's just learning more of what we're capable of on offense and making some adjustments on D. It's really not that hard. We are a transitioning team from old talent to young talent, and some of the young guys can't hold their own yet, but hopefully they will. This is Carter's first time being a starter, besides maybe 1 game last year, so you have to give him some break. I think Mendy, Harrison, and Polamalu coming back wil re-energize this team. It will at the very least take Mundy off the field unless we're in a sub package.

SMashMouthMike · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 3825

grubs10 · Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Posts: 1354 Location: Pittsburgh

jebrick · Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 7125 Location: Indianapolis

A couple of facts, The Steelers average draft position over the last 10 years is 24. Not much of a chance to get "playmakers" when a team drafts that lower over a long period of time. 2) the new rule for chop blocks effects the 2-gap style far more that the 1-gap style.

The 1st tells you that the league is cyclical and if a team drafts high for so long they will not get the playmakers that the lower teams get. Especially the way the Steelers draft.

kethnaab and I agree that the style needs to change. Unless the chop block rule is changed than 2-gap is basically dead. NT can not hold a position, read and react and protect their knees at the same time. They will go backwards when they are worried that guards and TEs are diving for their knees. They do not have the ILB to switch to a 1-gap quickly and they seem to have issues in moving to a hybrid defense. I do not think the Steelers move away from the 3-4 because they have many years in using it. But they need to change their style. And that does not happen over night but better happen in this offseason.
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