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Worst of the Worst
Gerard Warren
35%
 35%  [ 14 ]
David Veikune
64%
 64%  [ 25 ]
Total Votes : 39

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KamTrus20


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:38 am    Post subject: Worst of the Worst Finals Reply with quote

David Veikune 2nd
0 Stats 10 games

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Gerard Warren 1st
116 tackles 16.5 sacks in 4 seasons

Using the logic that won Warren the battle of suck against Brady Quinn then he should run away with this win, but I think people voted based on their least favorite players and in that case there is not a more disliked Brown than Veikune so he's going to win the suck of suck.

Gerard Warren was supposes to be a dominant game changing DLineman with the #3 pick.

Veikune was a #50 pick and I don't think people realize how much higher the bust rate is after round 1 espcially that late in round 2.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is tough for me.

On one hand you have a high pick used on a fat lazy POS.

On the other you have. A guy that never did anything.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may have to go with Veikune here.

We made that huge trade with the Jets and had 3 2nd rounders. Hitting on those could have turned the tides for us.

We ended up with Robo, the Glass Man and Veikune.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
I may have to go with Veikune here.

We made that huge trade with the Jets and had 3 2nd rounders. Hitting on those could have turned the tides for us.

We ended up with Robo, the Glass Man and Veikune.


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Did you vote for Quinn or Warren in the semis?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KamTrus20 wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
I may have to go with Veikune here.

We made that huge trade with the Jets and had 3 2nd rounders. Hitting on those could have turned the tides for us.

We ended up with Robo, the Glass Man and Veikune.


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Did you vote for Quinn or Warren in the semis?


I believe I didn't vote. I couldn't decide
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warren was a better pick but hurt our team more.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using everyones voting logic from the Quinn/Warren thread then Gerard Warren should have won this award.

Using the logic from this thread then Quinn should have won the semi final against Warren.

It seems everyone was just voting for who they disliked more.

Either way I think we can all agree Warren, Quinn and Veikune are easily the worst 3 picks of the new era Browns.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Veikune, by a long shot. Because of the trade and his suck.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is Warren not running away with this.

The guy was the #3 overall pick! He was lazy, and when he did play he wasn't very good anyway. You ask me if I would trade a bust in the 2nd for a hit in the first, I'll say yes everytime.

When you miss on a 2nd round pick, it sucks. But everyone does it, even the Steelers, Ravens and Patriots miss on late first-2nd round picks.

When you miss on a top 5 guy it sets your franchise back. The only answer should be Warren
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estonianzulu wrote:
Why is Warren not running away with this.

The guy was the #3 overall pick! He was lazy, and when he did play he wasn't very good anyway. You ask me if I would trade a bust in the 2nd for a hit in the first, I'll say yes everytime.

When you miss on a 2nd round pick, it sucks. But everyone does it, even the Steelers, Ravens and Patriots miss on late first-2nd round picks.

When you miss on a top 5 guy it sets your franchise back. The only answer should be Warren



My guess...

Warren represents suck as a player

Veikune represents suck as a player, coach, gm, and owner.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew_Carey wrote:


My guess...

Warren represents suck as a player

Veikune represents suck as a player, coach, gm, and owner.


I'd argue passing on 15 pro-bowlers in that round alone to pick a waste of space is as big a representation of our sucktitude.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estonianzulu wrote:
Drew_Carey wrote:


My guess...

Warren represents suck as a player

Veikune represents suck as a player, coach, gm, and owner.


I'd argue passing on 15 pro-bowlers in that round alone to pick a waste of space is as big a representation of our sucktitude.


Ugh Yeah, no argument from me.
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