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BRONCOS_BABY!!!
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| lomaxgr wrote: | Here are some quotes for your enjoyment (pretty sure I did this a while back too) :-
| big_palooka wrote: | | Hoping the pick is Miller. 3-4 pass rusher moving to a 4-3 DE. I can't understand taking an OLB #2 overall. He's not a fit in a 4-3. |
WOOPSY DAISY.
| b_rent87 wrote: | | Von Miller is the pick. Unfortunately |
Changed your mind yet?
| AnAngryAmerican wrote: | | What I keep hearing on NFLN is that Miller is "versatile" and that's a big reason why we're picking him. I guess the McDaniels influence lives on at Dove Valley. |
And to just to blow my own trumpet; here is what I said 10 minutes after our pick :-
| lomaxgr wrote: | | Love the pick. The guy is an absolute beast, and I can't wait to see a guy with this kind of explosion on our Defense. I hate to compare people to HOF players, but he has Derrick Thomas written all over him ... |
Never been more happy to be right  |
What was my reaction to the pick? I cant remember if I was excited at first reaction...
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mke1010
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AntiSuperstar wrote:
Elvis hasn't had a good season as a pass rusher. If he was any good as a pass rusher he wouldn't be singled teamed every play. But teams have figured out they don't have to respect Dumervil like that. Soon Broncos fans will figure it out too.
Dude gets blocked handily most plays, I don't care if it's pass or run plays. He doesn't deflect passes at the line, he's not a great stunt player, he doesn't offer much in the running game, and it takes him time to get in the backfield. He's mediocre, not good.
In 6 NFL seasons, (one of which was wiped out due to a season ending injury) Dumervil has career stats of:
Tackles 194
Quarterback sacks 55.5
Interceptions 1
Forced fumbles 12
Wow!! What a mediocre player. I am sure these stats are pretty mediocre for every DE in the NFL within the same time period. An average of 11 sacks a year and 2.5 forced fumbles per season is pretty mediocre if you ask me. |
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PackAtBroncos07
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| mke1010 wrote: | AntiSuperstar wrote:
Elvis hasn't had a good season as a pass rusher. If he was any good as a pass rusher he wouldn't be singled teamed every play. But teams have figured out they don't have to respect Dumervil like that. Soon Broncos fans will figure it out too.
Dude gets blocked handily most plays, I don't care if it's pass or run plays. He doesn't deflect passes at the line, he's not a great stunt player, he doesn't offer much in the running game, and it takes him time to get in the backfield. He's mediocre, not good.
In 6 NFL seasons, (one of which was wiped out due to a season ending injury) Dumervil has career stats of:
Tackles 194
Quarterback sacks 55.5
Interceptions 1
Forced fumbles 12
Wow!! What a mediocre player. I am sure these stats are pretty mediocre for every DE in the NFL within the same time period. An average of 11 sacks a year and 2.5 forced fumbles per season is pretty mediocre if you ask me. |
Look at this list then tell me he's mediocre. Look who he's past, look at the guys is nearly tied with.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/sacks_career.htm
He's had a great 6 seasons here. He's not Julius Peppers but he's above average for sure. And you can't run at him as much as you think.
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AntiSuperstar
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:43 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure what a post "analyzing" Elvis' career have to do with another post(mine) bashing Dumervil's performance this season. Perhaps you can explain when you're done congratulating yourself for googling Dumervil's career stats.
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Russell2Bailey
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| AntiSuperstar wrote: | | I'm not sure what a post "analyzing" Elvis' career have to do with another post(mine) bashing Dumervil's performance this season. Perhaps you can explain when you're done congratulating yourself for googling Dumervil's career stats. |
He's still on pace for 10 sacks and has more than Babin, Cole, Mario, and quite a few more.
He's never been good against the run so idk why all you people are crying about it now.
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broncosfan07
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| Russell2Bailey wrote: | | AntiSuperstar wrote: | | I'm not sure what a post "analyzing" Elvis' career have to do with another post(mine) bashing Dumervil's performance this season. Perhaps you can explain when you're done congratulating yourself for googling Dumervil's career stats. |
He's still on pace for 10 sacks and has more than Babin, Cole, Mario, and quite a few more.
He's never been good against the run so idk why all you people are crying about it now. |
Anti isn't saying that Doom is bad, he's just saying he's inconsistent, there's games where Doom makes a big impact and other's that he's invisible in.
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germ-x
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:50 am Post subject: |
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| Russell2Bailey wrote: | | AntiSuperstar wrote: | | I'm not sure what a post "analyzing" Elvis' career have to do with another post(mine) bashing Dumervil's performance this season. Perhaps you can explain when you're done congratulating yourself for googling Dumervil's career stats. |
He's still on pace for 10 sacks and has more than Babin, Cole, Mario, and quite a few more.
He's never been good against the run so idk why all you people are crying about it now. |
People are glancing over the fact that Dumervil has done nothing this season. His sacks are about the only impactful plays he has made on the entire year. No matter how you want to spin that with comparisons or projections, that isn't a good DE or player. It isn't like Dumervil is living in the oppositions backfield and harassing QB's all game. He isn't doing that though, as Anti mentioned he is getting 1v1 matchups and getting handled the vast majority of the time. |
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JerseysFinest27
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| germ-x wrote: | | Russell2Bailey wrote: | | AntiSuperstar wrote: | | I'm not sure what a post "analyzing" Elvis' career have to do with another post(mine) bashing Dumervil's performance this season. Perhaps you can explain when you're done congratulating yourself for googling Dumervil's career stats. |
He's still on pace for 10 sacks and has more than Babin, Cole, Mario, and quite a few more.
He's never been good against the run so idk why all you people are crying about it now. |
People are glancing over the fact that Dumervil has done nothing this season. His sacks are about the only impactful plays he has made on the entire year. No matter how you want to spin that with comparisons or projections, that isn't a good DE or player. It isn't like Dumervil is living in the oppositions backfield and harassing QB's all game. He isn't doing that though, as Anti mentioned he is getting 1v1 matchups and getting handled the vast majority of the time. |
While I dont disagree that Dumervil has been wildly inconsistent I think PFF has some stats to say otherwise. Take this for what its worth:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/10/pass-rushing-productivty-the-story-so-far/
Doom is 5th in the NFL at pass rushing productivity.
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AKRNA
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| lomaxgr wrote: | Here are some quotes for your enjoyment (pretty sure I did this a while back too) :-
| big_palooka wrote: | | Hoping the pick is Miller. 3-4 pass rusher moving to a 4-3 DE. I can't understand taking an OLB #2 overall. He's not a fit in a 4-3. |
WOOPSY DAISY.
| b_rent87 wrote: | | Von Miller is the pick. Unfortunately |
Changed your mind yet?
| AnAngryAmerican wrote: | | What I keep hearing on NFLN is that Miller is "versatile" and that's a big reason why we're picking him. I guess the McDaniels influence lives on at Dove Valley. |
And to just to blow my own trumpet; here is what I said 10 minutes after our pick :-
| lomaxgr wrote: | | Love the pick. The guy is an absolute beast, and I can't wait to see a guy with this kind of explosion on our Defense. I hate to compare people to HOF players, but he has Derrick Thomas written all over him ... |
Never been more happy to be right |
I was hoping we'd pick Peterson, but was mighty pleased with Von. I didn't figure we could go wrong with either. |
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mke1010
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| AntiSuperstar wrote: | | I'm not sure what a post "analyzing" Elvis' career have to do with another post(mine) bashing Dumervil's performance this season. Perhaps you can explain when you're done congratulating yourself for googling Dumervil's career stats. |
Just shinning the spotlight on how absurd your comments about Dumervil were. As usual, your harsh comments do not reflect reality. Googling Elvis's career stats should have given you pause to walk back your statement.
Fact is anyone calling Dumervil a mediocre player obviously is not taking in to account reality. Cheers. |
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AntiSuperstar
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| mke1010 wrote: | | Fact is anyone calling Dumervil a mediocre player obviously is not taking in to account reality. Cheers. |
Praising a player for stats he has accomplished in four plays, one of which he was unblocked on, isn't exactly looking at the big picture.
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Russell2Bailey
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| AntiSuperstar wrote: | | mke1010 wrote: | | Fact is anyone calling Dumervil a mediocre player obviously is not taking in to account reality. Cheers. |
Praising a player for stats he has accomplished in four plays, one of which he was unblocked on, isn't exactly looking at the big picture. |
5th in the NFL in PRP. Von Miller is first.
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mke1010
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Anti Superstar you hater.
Why dont you come out tonight and tell us why Dumervil is so mediocre.
Elvis was big tonight and showed he is a star much as he has his entire career. I think what really illuminates is the fact that you are a mediocre analyst and evaluator of talent. Dumervil told you tonight to stick it where the sun dont shine.
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elwayfan07
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| mke1010 wrote: | Anti Superstar you hater.
Why dont you come out tonight and tell us why Dumervil is so mediocre.
Elvis was big tonight and showed he is a star much as he has his entire career. I think what really illuminates is the fact that you are a mediocre analyst and evaluator of talent. Dumervil told you tonight to stick it where the sun dont shine.
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He was amazing tonight!! However, he has been mediocre before this year. Hopefully, tonight signals a huge turn around
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lomaxgr
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| BRONCOS_BABY!!! wrote: | | What was my reaction to the pick? I cant remember if I was excited at first reaction... |
A very positive one. Good opinion
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