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Raidin


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: Offensive line run blocking Reply with quote

Made this video to share with you lovely people as I thought it might be interesting to get peoples opinions on what's wrong with our running game. Might want to turn down the sound, didn't realise it would record it. Embarassed


https://vimeo.com/50627123


For the Steelers and Broncos games I might do it in slower motion too. It seems to me our OL is just getting physical pushed around(well back mainly) and also missing one or two key blocks at crucial points.

vs Steelers:
https://vimeo.com/50677569

vs
Falcons
https://vimeo.com/52008455

vs Jags
https://vimeo.com/55976178

vs Saints
https://vimeo.com/56285929

vs Bucs
https://vimeo.com/56288301

vs Bengals
https://vimeo.com/56300945
vs Broncos 2011
https://vimeo.com/52179757
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the Chargers game it look like McFadden dont have the vision to choose the right hole and the right cutback lane. There were lanes there a few times.
Steelers and Dolphins games looks like the interior was just getting blown up
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what a waste of talent. why is the o-line running around when they should just smack some buddy in the face and man up?

Plan horrible
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Preacher wrote:
what a waste of talent. why is the o-line running around when they should just smack some buddy in the face and man up?

Plan horrible



Problem is when they are smacking some body in the face they are getting smacked back even harder.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking at the game tapes and focusing on the OL the last few days. All that I'm seeing is an OL that is completely scrambled. There is no unity. All you see is our guys going backwards. They are simply being physically abused almost each & every play. The fact that Palmer is holding his own & McFadden gets passed the line of scrimmage is remarkable.

Poor execution by the players is one thing, but it's evident this staff has not employed this scheme in correctly. You have to fit what the players do, not what you want to do as a coach. At least that's how I see it.

Side note: How disappointing has Brisiel been? For a guy who was supposedly solid in the ZBS scheme in Houston to come here & arguably be the worst player on the OL is sad to see.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The amount of off stretch handoffs is nauseating.

Can we just line up Wiz and LG and run behind he and Veldheer like last year.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
The amount of off stretch handoffs is nauseating.

Can we just line up Wiz and LG and run behind he and Veldheer like last year.


Agreed. Through the first two minutes I was tired of stretch runs. Thought I was watching a 10 year old play Madden. But it is what Houston does a lot so Im not surprise.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A big problem for the run game is that Knapp isn't giving it much of a chance to get going. The Raiders are passing way too much on 1st down. When we do run, it seems like at least half are outside run plays, which usually go for little to no yards. The Raiders offense is directionless with an OC in way over his head.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
The amount of off stretch handoffs is nauseating.

Can we just line up Wiz and LG and run behind he and Veldheer like last year.


Agreed.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of things looking ugly in that video including Owen Schmitts run blocking Shocked he whiffs a lot.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dessie wrote:
A lot of things looking ugly in that video including Owen Schmitts run blocking Shocked he whiffs a lot.



From quickly looking at the Steelers and Broncos game Brandon Myers does that a lot as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the vid. It looks like Dmac will struggle to succeed in that scheme no matter how good the blocking gets. Cutting back isn't his game or at least it doesn't seem to come naturally to him.
I think Taiwan Jones would be more effective with the same blocking.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oakdb36 wrote:
Thanks for the vid. It looks like Dmac will struggle to succeed in that scheme no matter how good the blocking gets. Cutting back isn't his game or at least it doesn't seem to come naturally to him.
I think Taiwan Jones would be more effective with the same blocking.


agree. except i like the move dmac put on the steeler db on that td run. might have been the first time ive seen dmac shake a defender. he is being wasted in the zbs.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks bad, almost like we block them into the runner every play.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raidin wrote:
Dessie wrote:
A lot of things looking ugly in that video including Owen Schmitts run blocking Shocked he whiffs a lot.



From quickly looking at the Steelers and Broncos game Brandon Myers does that a lot as well.


You're correct here. Myers is suppose to be a sound blocker, but he is missing blocks like crazy. He's been down right poor in that department.

You watch some of these guys, it looks like they are thinking way to much about their assignments. Myers really looks indecisive at times.
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