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ugLymayNe

Joined: 31 Oct 2006
Posts: 10801
Location: Wisconsin

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject:

Bohlmann20 wrote:

Dallas94Ware wrote:

Majority of those guys are overrated. A couple are even out of the league coaching wise.

What?

Belicheck - top coach in all of football
Dimitroff - Don't know who that is.
Pioli - not a coach any longer, not valid
Lombardi - Isn't that the guy the trophy is named after? If so, top 3 coach of all time.
Ferentz - Overrated
Saban - top 3 coach in all of football
Schwartz - Overrated
Newsome - idk
Mangini - sucks, but everyone knows it, so not overrated

Oh my...............Yeah, Vince game back in 1995 to coach the Brownies.. Laughing

And you don't know who Ozzie Newsome or Thomas Dimitroff is? Oh ok. Do you not pay attention to the whole NFL or do you just know your own team?
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candyman93

Joined: 02 Dec 2009
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:49 pm Post subject:

ugLymayNe wrote:

Bohlmann20 wrote:

Dallas94Ware wrote:

Majority of those guys are overrated. A couple are even out of the league coaching wise.

Oh my...............Yeah, Vince game back in 1995 to coach the Brownies.. Laughing

And you don't know who Ozzie Newsome or Thomas Dimitroff is? Oh ok. Do you not pay attention to the whole NFL or do you just know your own team?

He doesn't have a team
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texans_uk

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Posts: 25441
Location: Kempes on the sig

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject:

candyman93 wrote:

ugLymayNe wrote:

Bohlmann20 wrote:

Dallas94Ware wrote:

Majority of those guys are overrated. A couple are even out of the league coaching wise.

Oh my...............Yeah, Vince game back in 1995 to coach the Brownies.. Laughing

And you don't know who Ozzie Newsome or Thomas Dimitroff is? Oh ok. Do you not pay attention to the whole NFL or do you just know your own team?

He doesn't have a team

He only knows his own team * he doesn't have a team = he doesn't know anything
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DallasInHeart wrote:

Buddy if you lived in Europe or ever gone to visit Europe you would know that over there Football is totally on a different level

lionslicer

Joined: 06 Nov 2010
Posts: 1762

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:09 pm Post subject:

KamTrus20 wrote:

I love how every just dismisses Pat Hill and Mike Tannabaum.

Hill is a very good coach who produces NFL talent at a non-BCS college.

Also Eric Mangini is very underrated as a coach. He got the short end of the stick in Cleveland and New York. Rex Ryan's best seasons were with the talent Eric Mangini helped put together and coached up. Eric Mangini took over a Browns team that was strapped against the cap and had no draft picks, but he was fired because his team was too old and lacked talent. How the F do you expect someone to get younger when your last GM(Phil Savage) traded away all you picks and made ridiculously stupid FA signings and strapped the team financially? Out of all the coaches in Cleveland since 1999 Eric Mangini got more results from less talent.

Mangini can never get a break. With the Jets, they were having a good season until Farve got injured, refused to miss a game and was the sole reason they collapsed late in the season.

Everything went against Mangini in Cleveland... No talent, no picks, and then a new GM comes in that already has a vendetta against him because Mangini is a power run gun and refuses to use the west coast offense.

Dude can't get a break.
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Dawgpoun8017

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Location: Waterloo,NY

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:20 pm Post subject:

lionslicer wrote:

KamTrus20 wrote:

Mangini is partially to blame for the lack of talent
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Bohlmann20

Joined: 22 Mar 2012
Posts: 5138

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:25 pm Post subject:

lionslicer wrote:

KamTrus20 wrote:

This is true. Mangini was a good coach put in a bad position.

GaTechRavens

Joined: 25 Nov 2006
Posts: 15692
Location: Knoxville, TN

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject:

The interesting thing about all of this is the fact that despite having such a loaded staff, the roster was in godawful shape after the move. They drafted horribly in the years leading up to 1996, relied on a crapload of veterans who were beginning to hit their slide, and had a defense in full blown free fall mode. To put how things bad were in perspective, the Ravens had a Pro Bowl quarterback in 1996 and still went 4-12. By 2000, only 3 players were left from the 1995 Browns roster. So whatever that dream staff did, they were doing it wrong.
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ArrowheadRage58 wrote:

I'd much rather be in our position now than the Ravens, that's for sure.

FourThreeMafia

Joined: 28 Sep 2006
Posts: 40594
Location: East of Sixburgh

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:14 pm Post subject:

Bohlmann20 wrote:

lionslicer wrote:

KamTrus20 wrote:

This is true. Mangini was a good coach put in a bad position.

Yet earlier in this thread....

Quote:

Mangini - sucks, but everyone knows it, so not overrated

Please....stop....I cants takes no mores.
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cluelessororke wrote:

I am going to laugh in your face when they don't even sniff WR until day three of the draft

Still waiting for your laugh....

CrashMan510

Joined: 14 Aug 2012
Posts: 2818
Location: Bay Area

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:24 pm Post subject:

Bohlmann20 wrote:

Lombardi - Isn't that the guy the trophy is named after? If so, top 3 coach of all time.

omfg

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mcmurtry86

Joined: 02 Mar 2010
Posts: 16285

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:36 pm Post subject:

eagles101 wrote:

RandyMossIsBoss wrote:

eagles101 wrote:

didnt BB suck at Cleveland. going to the jets and getting booted could have easily been the reason he became a great coach.

He didn't get booted from New York, he quit before his first presser by writing down that he "resigns as HC" on a napkin. He received an offer to go to New England and fled. Although because the pats basically stole him from the jets, they were forced to give the jets a 1st round pick for BB.

i didnt mean booted from new york sorry. i meant booted from Cleveland and then went to new york. should have wrote that differently.

Belichick went from Cleveland to the Pats in 1996 as the DB coach before going to the Jets in 1997 (followed Parcells).

Eksynyt

Joined: 09 Jul 2008
Posts: 5871
Location: Oregon

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:10 pm Post subject:

Most of the guys on that are legit. But Nick Saban was a disaster with the dolphins. Fantastic college coach, but like Stephen Orr Spurrier, he was terrible in the NFL.
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carnageehw

Joined: 13 Nov 2008
Posts: 2329

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:13 pm Post subject:

I'm at WalMart getting a tire changed, and the fact that somone though Vince Lombardi was on the clevland coaching staff just made me lol in the waiting area.
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candyman93

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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:14 pm Post subject:

Bohlmann20 wrote:

Lombardi - Isn't that the guy the trophy is named after? If so, top 3 coach of all time.

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coleman51

Joined: 06 May 2005
Posts: 2506
Location: Hendersonville, TN

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:51 pm Post subject:

sp6488 wrote:

coleman51 wrote:

LMAO!

I've gotta find somewhere online to watch this. While hindsight is 20/20, there was an incredible amount of football genius on that team. It's probably a great thing that they split up (Sorry Cleveland) but it's best that football can be better everywhere than in one place to create competition. Dimitroff/Newsome are two of the best GM's in the league, probably both top 5, and Pioli was in New England for a good time as well. He's also put together a great team in KC but it's just not all meshing yet.

Bohlmann20 stole this thread too, let's get back on topic!

Must this infect every NFL Gen thread?

What? Every thread?
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terbo559

Joined: 04 Jan 2009
Posts: 2743
Location: California

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:23 pm Post subject:

KamTrus20 wrote:

Agree Pat Hill transformed Fresno State when he became a HC, and had them ranked as one of the top college teams for a couple seasons. He did produce some pretty good NFL talent too
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