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| ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | pigsooie5 wrote: | | Matt Forte>>>>>Jamaal Charles |
Matt Forte can't win games by himself and couldn't field a successful offense with him and Matt Cassel in the backfield. |
Believe me he did…as a rookie he was the Bears offence…he could still carry this team on his shoulders if we hadn’t added more pieces around him…it’s incredible how underrated the guy is by some fans around the league. |
Seriously? Atleast he had Orton, who if nothing else was competent....and that 3.9 ypc really put the fear into teams didn't it?
Basically Forte, needed a good QB to get himself into the same category that Charles is with Cassel at QB....it's still not even that close. |
Oh dear we have a box score scout on the loose  …Forte was held to that average because we had nothing on the outside and team loaded the box since no one feared Orton…when Charles really broke out in 2010 Matt Cassel throw for over 3,000 yards with 27 TDs & only 7 INTs going to the pro bowl…and he had Bowe on the outside keeping an extra defender out of the box…Bowe who also went to the pro bowl and was named all-pro…Charles has never shown the ability to put a team on his back…his first two years he split time with Thomas Jones…his third year Cassel & Bowe had the best year of their respective careers which opened up plenty of opportunity for the ground game and last year he was injured…if he continues to play as well as he has so far this season for the rest of the year then I would say this is the first year it’s all been on Charles…Forte tho put a team on his back from day one and still doesn’t get the respect he deserves. |
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Madmike90
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| bmore4life815 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | pigsooie5 wrote: | | Matt Forte>>>>>Jamaal Charles |
Matt Forte can't win games by himself and couldn't field a successful offense with him and Matt Cassel in the backfield. |
Believe me he did…as a rookie he was the Bears offence…he could still carry this team on his shoulders if we hadn’t added more pieces around him…it’s incredible how underrated the guy is by some fans around the league. |
This isn't a new trend, either:
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=436902
Edit: Haha... As soon as I bring up my old "How is Matt Forte this underrated?" thread, some dude ranks him ahead of AD. |
I think a lot of Bears fans realise that Forte will more than likely be viewed along the same lines as Fred Taylor was for many years outside of Jacksonville. |
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | pigsooie5 wrote: | | Matt Forte>>>>>Jamaal Charles |
Matt Forte can't win games by himself and couldn't field a successful offense with him and Matt Cassel in the backfield. |
Believe me he did…as a rookie he was the Bears offence…he could still carry this team on his shoulders if we hadn’t added more pieces around him…it’s incredible how underrated the guy is by some fans around the league. |
Seriously? Atleast he had Orton, who if nothing else was competent....and that 3.9 ypc really put the fear into teams didn't it?
Basically Forte, needed a good QB to get himself into the same category that Charles is with Cassel at QB....it's still not even that close. |
Oh dear we have a box score scout on the loose …Forte was held to that average because we had nothing on the outside and team loaded the box since no one feared Orton…when Charles really broke out in 2010 Matt Cassel throw for over 3,000 yards with 27 TDs & only 7 INTs going to the pro bowl…and he had Bowe on the outside keeping an extra defender out of the box…Bowe who also went to the pro bowl and was named all-pro…Charles has never shown the ability to put a team on his back…his first two years he split time with Thomas Jones…his third year Cassel & Bowe had the best year of their respective careers which opened up plenty of opportunity for the ground game and last year he was injured…if he continues to play as well as he has so far this season for the rest of the year then I would say this is the first year it’s all been on Charles…Forte tho put a team on his back from day one and still doesn’t get the respect he deserves. |
You poor, poor soul. Charles is the one who allowed Cassel and the passing game to be even semi-successful. He only split time with Jones in 2010. Cassel was horrid the first few games of 2010 until D's realized that they had to get an extra guy in there to slow down Charles...Only then did Cassel start throwing TD's to Bowe all the time. Charles also took over in '09 when the whole team was still awful, especially the O-Line and absolutely tore it up.
Today, he ran wild on the Ravens in the first half....they knew it was coming and couldn't stop him. KC passed like 4 times in the first half. They adjusted and the run game had no chance in the 2nd half, multiple negative rushing plays, yet he managed 4.7 avg for the game. It was unreal. If you don't think he's ATLEAST in the conversation for #1 RB right now, you don't know football.
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Madmike90
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| ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | pigsooie5 wrote: | | Matt Forte>>>>>Jamaal Charles |
Matt Forte can't win games by himself and couldn't field a successful offense with him and Matt Cassel in the backfield. |
Believe me he did…as a rookie he was the Bears offence…he could still carry this team on his shoulders if we hadn’t added more pieces around him…it’s incredible how underrated the guy is by some fans around the league. |
Seriously? Atleast he had Orton, who if nothing else was competent....and that 3.9 ypc really put the fear into teams didn't it?
Basically Forte, needed a good QB to get himself into the same category that Charles is with Cassel at QB....it's still not even that close. |
Oh dear we have a box score scout on the loose …Forte was held to that average because we had nothing on the outside and team loaded the box since no one feared Orton…when Charles really broke out in 2010 Matt Cassel throw for over 3,000 yards with 27 TDs & only 7 INTs going to the pro bowl…and he had Bowe on the outside keeping an extra defender out of the box…Bowe who also went to the pro bowl and was named all-pro…Charles has never shown the ability to put a team on his back…his first two years he split time with Thomas Jones…his third year Cassel & Bowe had the best year of their respective careers which opened up plenty of opportunity for the ground game and last year he was injured…if he continues to play as well as he has so far this season for the rest of the year then I would say this is the first year it’s all been on Charles…Forte tho put a team on his back from day one and still doesn’t get the respect he deserves. |
You poor, poor soul. Charles is the one who allowed Cassel and the passing game to be even semi-successful. He only split time with Jones in 2010. Cassel was horrid the first few games of 2010 until D's realized that they had to get an extra guy in there to slow down Charles...Only then did Cassel start throwing TD's to Bowe all the time. Charles also took over in '09 when the whole team was still awful, especially the O-Line and absolutely tore it up.
Today, he ran wild on the Ravens in the first half....they knew it was coming and couldn't stop him. KC passed like 4 times in the first half. They adjusted and the run game had no chance in the 2nd half, multiple negative rushing plays, yet he managed 4.7 avg for the game. It was unreal. If you don't think he's ATLEAST in the conversation for #1 RB right now, you don't know football. |
190 total carries on the season is not taking over...especially when Johnson had 132 carries...like I said if he carries his team this year it will have been the first time...
No one is saying Charles isn't a great back but he has too show he can carry the load for a full season before he is in the conversation for being the best back in the NFL. |
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To me, RBs like McCoy, Peterson, Charles, and to a lesser extent, DMC, Murray, CJ2K and Spiller, all have something, call it a little "extra" element to their game than guys like MJD, Forte, Foster, Rice, Gore and Mendy, who are all fine backs, but not spectacular. My opinion, of course, but here are the OP's listed backs in order, followed by my top 5 overall.
1. McCoy
2. Charles
3. Rice
T4. Foster
T4. MJD
Top 5 overall:
1. AD
2. McCoy
3. Charles
4. Rice
T5. Foster/MJD
But Spiller, DMC, and Murray are knockin' on the door, IMO, while CJ2K is slipping.
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | pigsooie5 wrote: | | Matt Forte>>>>>Jamaal Charles |
Matt Forte can't win games by himself and couldn't field a successful offense with him and Matt Cassel in the backfield. |
Believe me he did…as a rookie he was the Bears offence…he could still carry this team on his shoulders if we hadn’t added more pieces around him…it’s incredible how underrated the guy is by some fans around the league. |
Seriously? Atleast he had Orton, who if nothing else was competent....and that 3.9 ypc really put the fear into teams didn't it?
Basically Forte, needed a good QB to get himself into the same category that Charles is with Cassel at QB....it's still not even that close. |
Oh dear we have a box score scout on the loose …Forte was held to that average because we had nothing on the outside and team loaded the box since no one feared Orton…when Charles really broke out in 2010 Matt Cassel throw for over 3,000 yards with 27 TDs & only 7 INTs going to the pro bowl…and he had Bowe on the outside keeping an extra defender out of the box…Bowe who also went to the pro bowl and was named all-pro…Charles has never shown the ability to put a team on his back…his first two years he split time with Thomas Jones…his third year Cassel & Bowe had the best year of their respective careers which opened up plenty of opportunity for the ground game and last year he was injured…if he continues to play as well as he has so far this season for the rest of the year then I would say this is the first year it’s all been on Charles…Forte tho put a team on his back from day one and still doesn’t get the respect he deserves. |
You poor, poor soul. Charles is the one who allowed Cassel and the passing game to be even semi-successful. He only split time with Jones in 2010. Cassel was horrid the first few games of 2010 until D's realized that they had to get an extra guy in there to slow down Charles...Only then did Cassel start throwing TD's to Bowe all the time. Charles also took over in '09 when the whole team was still awful, especially the O-Line and absolutely tore it up.
Today, he ran wild on the Ravens in the first half....they knew it was coming and couldn't stop him. KC passed like 4 times in the first half. They adjusted and the run game had no chance in the 2nd half, multiple negative rushing plays, yet he managed 4.7 avg for the game. It was unreal. If you don't think he's ATLEAST in the conversation for #1 RB right now, you don't know football. |
190 total carries on the season is not taking over...especially when Johnson had 132 carries...like I said if he carries his team this year it will have been the first time...
No one is saying Charles isn't a great back but he has too show he can carry the load for a full season before he is in the conversation for being the best back in the NFL. |
2010?
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| simonwayne wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | pigsooie5 wrote: | | Matt Forte>>>>>Jamaal Charles |
Matt Forte can't win games by himself and couldn't field a successful offense with him and Matt Cassel in the backfield. |
Believe me he did…as a rookie he was the Bears offence…he could still carry this team on his shoulders if we hadn’t added more pieces around him…it’s incredible how underrated the guy is by some fans around the league. |
Seriously? Atleast he had Orton, who if nothing else was competent....and that 3.9 ypc really put the fear into teams didn't it?
Basically Forte, needed a good QB to get himself into the same category that Charles is with Cassel at QB....it's still not even that close. |
Oh dear we have a box score scout on the loose …Forte was held to that average because we had nothing on the outside and team loaded the box since no one feared Orton…when Charles really broke out in 2010 Matt Cassel throw for over 3,000 yards with 27 TDs & only 7 INTs going to the pro bowl…and he had Bowe on the outside keeping an extra defender out of the box…Bowe who also went to the pro bowl and was named all-pro…Charles has never shown the ability to put a team on his back…his first two years he split time with Thomas Jones…his third year Cassel & Bowe had the best year of their respective careers which opened up plenty of opportunity for the ground game and last year he was injured…if he continues to play as well as he has so far this season for the rest of the year then I would say this is the first year it’s all been on Charles…Forte tho put a team on his back from day one and still doesn’t get the respect he deserves. |
You poor, poor soul. Charles is the one who allowed Cassel and the passing game to be even semi-successful. He only split time with Jones in 2010. Cassel was horrid the first few games of 2010 until D's realized that they had to get an extra guy in there to slow down Charles...Only then did Cassel start throwing TD's to Bowe all the time. Charles also took over in '09 when the whole team was still awful, especially the O-Line and absolutely tore it up.
Today, he ran wild on the Ravens in the first half....they knew it was coming and couldn't stop him. KC passed like 4 times in the first half. They adjusted and the run game had no chance in the 2nd half, multiple negative rushing plays, yet he managed 4.7 avg for the game. It was unreal. If you don't think he's ATLEAST in the conversation for #1 RB right now, you don't know football. |
190 total carries on the season is not taking over...especially when Johnson had 132 carries...like I said if he carries his team this year it will have been the first time...
No one is saying Charles isn't a great back but he has too show he can carry the load for a full season before he is in the conversation for being the best back in the NFL. |
2010? |
Where the Chiefs also had a pro bowl QB & WR?...that’s not really carrying a team on your own is it. |
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190 total carries on the season is not taking over...especially when Johnson had 132 carries...like I said if he carries his team this year it will have been the first time...
No one is saying Charles isn't a great back but he has too show he can carry the load for a full season before he is in the conversation for being the best back in the NFL. |
Why? I don't even want nor do the Chiefs plan to use him that way...the plan is for him to have the majority of carries, but split time with Hillis and the other backs and take him out and save him when the game is decided. If all these other backs carry the load and JC splits carries and he can still finish 2nd in rushing to Foster, what more is there to prove? How many carries does he need in your opinion to "qualify"? He leads the league this year, while mostly splitting carries. Foster now has that same luxury with Tate behind him and he can't even manage 4 yards a carry, on a team where the QB is actually a threat.
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | simonwayne wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | pigsooie5 wrote: | | Matt Forte>>>>>Jamaal Charles |
Matt Forte can't win games by himself and couldn't field a successful offense with him and Matt Cassel in the backfield. |
Believe me he did…as a rookie he was the Bears offence…he could still carry this team on his shoulders if we hadn’t added more pieces around him…it’s incredible how underrated the guy is by some fans around the league. |
Seriously? Atleast he had Orton, who if nothing else was competent....and that 3.9 ypc really put the fear into teams didn't it?
Basically Forte, needed a good QB to get himself into the same category that Charles is with Cassel at QB....it's still not even that close. |
Oh dear we have a box score scout on the loose …Forte was held to that average because we had nothing on the outside and team loaded the box since no one feared Orton…when Charles really broke out in 2010 Matt Cassel throw for over 3,000 yards with 27 TDs & only 7 INTs going to the pro bowl…and he had Bowe on the outside keeping an extra defender out of the box…Bowe who also went to the pro bowl and was named all-pro…Charles has never shown the ability to put a team on his back…his first two years he split time with Thomas Jones…his third year Cassel & Bowe had the best year of their respective careers which opened up plenty of opportunity for the ground game and last year he was injured…if he continues to play as well as he has so far this season for the rest of the year then I would say this is the first year it’s all been on Charles…Forte tho put a team on his back from day one and still doesn’t get the respect he deserves. |
You poor, poor soul. Charles is the one who allowed Cassel and the passing game to be even semi-successful. He only split time with Jones in 2010. Cassel was horrid the first few games of 2010 until D's realized that they had to get an extra guy in there to slow down Charles...Only then did Cassel start throwing TD's to Bowe all the time. Charles also took over in '09 when the whole team was still awful, especially the O-Line and absolutely tore it up.
Today, he ran wild on the Ravens in the first half....they knew it was coming and couldn't stop him. KC passed like 4 times in the first half. They adjusted and the run game had no chance in the 2nd half, multiple negative rushing plays, yet he managed 4.7 avg for the game. It was unreal. If you don't think he's ATLEAST in the conversation for #1 RB right now, you don't know football. |
190 total carries on the season is not taking over...especially when Johnson had 132 carries...like I said if he carries his team this year it will have been the first time...
No one is saying Charles isn't a great back but he has too show he can carry the load for a full season before he is in the conversation for being the best back in the NFL. |
2010? |
Where the Chiefs also had a pro bowl QB & WR?...that’s not really carrying a team on your own is it. |
To be fair, Cassel was far from a Pro Bowl QB that year. His numbers were very deceiving.
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| ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: |
190 total carries on the season is not taking over...especially when Johnson had 132 carries...like I said if he carries his team this year it will have been the first time...
No one is saying Charles isn't a great back but he has too show he can carry the load for a full season before he is in the conversation for being the best back in the NFL. |
Why? I don't even want nor do the Chiefs plan to use him that way...the plan is for him to have the majority of carries, but split time with Hillis and the other backs and take him out and save him when the game is decided. If all these other backs carry the load and JC splits carries and he can still finish 2nd in rushing to Foster, what more is there to prove? How many carries does he need in your opinion to "qualify"? He leads the league this year, while mostly splitting carries. Foster now has that same luxury with Tate behind him and he can't even manage 4 yards a carry, on a team where the QB is actually a threat. |
Because every great back in history has had too…also saying that Foster has the same luxury is way off base…Foster has 762 carries in 39 games…that’s 19.5 carries per game…Charles has 601 carries in 54 games…that’s just over 11 carries per game…Foster doesn’t play with the same kind of backup help as Charles does even tho Tate is talented in his own right. |
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: |
190 total carries on the season is not taking over...especially when Johnson had 132 carries...like I said if he carries his team this year it will have been the first time...
No one is saying Charles isn't a great back but he has too show he can carry the load for a full season before he is in the conversation for being the best back in the NFL. |
Why? I don't even want nor do the Chiefs plan to use him that way...the plan is for him to have the majority of carries, but split time with Hillis and the other backs and take him out and save him when the game is decided. If all these other backs carry the load and JC splits carries and he can still finish 2nd in rushing to Foster, what more is there to prove? How many carries does he need in your opinion to "qualify"? He leads the league this year, while mostly splitting carries. Foster now has that same luxury with Tate behind him and he can't even manage 4 yards a carry, on a team where the QB is actually a threat. |
Because every great back in history has had too…also saying that Foster has the same luxury is way off base…Foster has 762 carries in 39 games…that’s 19.5 carries per game…Charles has 601 carries in 54 games…that’s just over 11 carries per game…Foster doesn’t play with the same kind of backup help as Charles does even tho Tate is talented in his own right. |
ummm, Tate is currently better than Hillis.
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| ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: |
190 total carries on the season is not taking over...especially when Johnson had 132 carries...like I said if he carries his team this year it will have been the first time...
No one is saying Charles isn't a great back but he has too show he can carry the load for a full season before he is in the conversation for being the best back in the NFL. |
Why? I don't even want nor do the Chiefs plan to use him that way...the plan is for him to have the majority of carries, but split time with Hillis and the other backs and take him out and save him when the game is decided. If all these other backs carry the load and JC splits carries and he can still finish 2nd in rushing to Foster, what more is there to prove? How many carries does he need in your opinion to "qualify"? He leads the league this year, while mostly splitting carries. Foster now has that same luxury with Tate behind him and he can't even manage 4 yards a carry, on a team where the QB is actually a threat. |
Because every great back in history has had too…also saying that Foster has the same luxury is way off base…Foster has 762 carries in 39 games…that’s 19.5 carries per game…Charles has 601 carries in 54 games…that’s just over 11 carries per game…Foster doesn’t play with the same kind of backup help as Charles does even tho Tate is talented in his own right. |
ummm, Tate is currently better than Hillis. |
That's what I said...but still Foster averages more than 8 attempts per game over the course of their careers more than Charles does. |
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Because every great back in history has had too…also saying that Foster has the same luxury is way off base…Foster has 762 carries in 39 games…that’s 19.5 carries per game…Charles has 601 carries in 54 games…that’s just over 11 carries per game…Foster doesn’t play with the same kind of backup help as Charles does even tho Tate is talented in his own right. |
You're counting Charles rookie season when he was a backup... The guy only had one game with more than 7 carries that year. You can't honestly count that.
Since becoming the starter, Charles has 534 carries in 38 games. Still not at Foster's workload level, but a huge difference.
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Madmike90 wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | pigsooie5 wrote: | | Matt Forte>>>>>Jamaal Charles |
Matt Forte can't win games by himself and couldn't field a successful offense with him and Matt Cassel in the backfield. |
Believe me he did…as a rookie he was the Bears offence…he could still carry this team on his shoulders if we hadn’t added more pieces around him…it’s incredible how underrated the guy is by some fans around the league. |
Seriously? Atleast he had Orton, who if nothing else was competent....and that 3.9 ypc really put the fear into teams didn't it?
Basically Forte, needed a good QB to get himself into the same category that Charles is with Cassel at QB....it's still not even that close. |
Oh dear we have a box score scout on the loose …Forte was held to that average because we had nothing on the outside and team loaded the box since no one feared Orton…when Charles really broke out in 2010 Matt Cassel throw for over 3,000 yards with 27 TDs & only 7 INTs going to the pro bowl…and he had Bowe on the outside keeping an extra defender out of the box…Bowe who also went to the pro bowl and was named all-pro…Charles has never shown the ability to put a team on his back…his first two years he split time with Thomas Jones…his third year Cassel & Bowe had the best year of their respective careers which opened up plenty of opportunity for the ground game and last year he was injured…if he continues to play as well as he has so far this season for the rest of the year then I would say this is the first year it’s all been on Charles…Forte tho put a team on his back from day one and still doesn’t get the respect he deserves. |
You poor, poor soul. Charles is the one who allowed Cassel and the passing game to be even semi-successful. He only split time with Jones in 2010. Cassel was horrid the first few games of 2010 until D's realized that they had to get an extra guy in there to slow down Charles...Only then did Cassel start throwing TD's to Bowe all the time. Charles also took over in '09 when the whole team was still awful, especially the O-Line and absolutely tore it up.
Today, he ran wild on the Ravens in the first half....they knew it was coming and couldn't stop him. KC passed like 4 times in the first half. They adjusted and the run game had no chance in the 2nd half, multiple negative rushing plays, yet he managed 4.7 avg for the game. It was unreal. If you don't think he's ATLEAST in the conversation for #1 RB right now, you don't know football. |
190 total carries on the season is not taking over...especially when Johnson had 132 carries...like I said if he carries his team this year it will have been the first time...
No one is saying Charles isn't a great back but he has too show he can carry the load for a full season before he is in the conversation for being the best back in the NFL. |
In 2009 LJ had all his carries the first part of the season and managed 2.9 ypc. JC took over after we dropped LJ and got 5.9 ypc behind the same line. The second half of 2009 JC carried the Chiefs to say otherwise is a 
2010 #2 in rushing yards (6.4ypc) despite time share with TJ.
2011 Only 2 games JC played were blowouts that limited his carries, but he did well with what he had. Also about ACL's, Charles had way more recovery time then AD, why is Charles the only one penalized
in your rankings?
2012 #1/#2 rushing yards (Foster may pass him tonight, good game so far) 5.4ypc. To put Charles #5 and act like others belong on the list besides him is wrong! People like to think JC is like Chris Johnson, but really he runs like AP. JC is a little faster (In pads I believe they are #1, #2 fastest RB in NFL) AP is much stronger, but JC is stronger then given credit for. People don't arm tackle him running through holes often. With all that said....
1. Foster
2. Charles
3. Rice
4. McCoy
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