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Dawgpoun8017
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 Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:42 pm Post subject: Haslam: No rash changes when I take over |
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| Quote: | | "I don't think anybody thinks 0-4 (is acceptable) and certainly Mike Holmgren and Pat Shurmur don't think it is and we don't think it is," Haslam said in the interview. "But we've got a young team. We're building. I think we're heading in the right direction. We don't officially own the team yet and we've said all along that we're not going to make any comments on personnel until after we own the team. That's in about two weeks. |
| Quote: | | "And candidly we'll be halfway through the football season then, so any personnel decisions we'd make would be toward the end of the year |
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So it looks like when Haslam does take over he is just going to let things play out.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000069449/article/jimmy-haslam-no-rash-changes-when-i-take-over-browns?module=HP11_headline_stack
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candyman93
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Wise decision
When has firing a head coach midsession ever benefited a team?
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KamTrus20
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I thought it was a given he wasn't doing anything until the end of the season at the earliest?
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hornbybrown
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:49 pm Post subject: Re: Haslam: No rash changes when I take over |
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| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | Quote: | | "I don't think anybody thinks 0-4 (is acceptable) and certainly Mike Holmgren and Pat Shurmur don't think it is and we don't think it is," Haslam said in the interview. "But we've got a young team. We're building. I think we're heading in the right direction. We don't officially own the team yet and we've said all along that we're not going to make any comments on personnel until after we own the team. That's in about two weeks. |
| Quote: | | "And candidly we'll be halfway through the football season then, so any personnel decisions we'd make would be toward the end of the year |
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So it looks like when Haslam does take over he is just going to let things play out.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000069449/article/jimmy-haslam-no-rash-changes-when-i-take-over-browns?module=HP11_headline_stack |
Comments like this make me happy.
We do need to make some changes but getting rid of everyone would be a big step backwards.
This makes me think that there is a very good chance that Tom Heckert will still be GM next year.
Haslam has said more than once that this team is young and talented.
As for Shurmer..... He needs wins and he needs them soon.
I can see Holmgren wanting to move on but I can also still see him here next year as well.
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fsubrowns9510
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Good idea.
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bruceb
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Blowing everything up mid-season would be stupid. Haslam is not stupid.
Doesn't mean, though, that Holmgren isn't put on a glide path out the door the minute Banner is aboard. Or that he already hasn't picked his HC.
Even if we pull enough wins out of the rest of this season, Shurmur probably is gone at the end of it. Keeping him would be like Holmgren keeping Mangini, with no commitment to him.
My bigger concern is that we don't put all these young players to learn completely new O and D systems.
I know a HC usually wants to pick his own OC and DC, but in this case I would be inclined to insist on one that keeps Childress, Jauron and most/all of their underlyings.
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candyman93
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| bruceb wrote: | | I know a HC usually wants to pick his own OC and DC, but in this case I would be inclined to insist on one that keeps Childress, Jauron and most/all of their underlyings. |
I wish you were right, but you know how this game works. Head coaches want their own guys.
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Heckert and Jauron r the only ones im concerned about.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| nugpimpen wrote: | | Heckert and Jauron r the only ones im concerned about. |
Same here.
Whoever our WR and ST's coaches are i would like gone now.
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I for one hope we keep Holmgren,Heckert,Shurmur and Jauron another year. I know our record is not good but we have a lot of young players.
I think if you give Jauron a good free safety and either a good corner or def. end this defense can be a top 10 and even a top 5 defense. Young line backers show promise. Hughes and Winn look good. Sheard will get better.
On offense I've seen improvment from Weeden and Schwartz since the eagles game. Not worried about Richardson at all. Jordan looks good when he plays at tight end. Receivers dropping the ball has to stop. Guards need to step up. Marecic needs to step up also.
Probably have to use free agency a little more next year. If we can add at least four decent starters next year I'm predicting playoffs. No need to rock the boat.
The realist in me also knows the Browns need to win some games for Holmgren and Shurmur to survive.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| nugpimpen wrote: | | Heckert and Jauron r the only ones im concerned about. |
no one should be untouchable because if they start thinking that they could become complacent with it
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NickZambo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| buno67 wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | | Heckert and Jauron r the only ones im concerned about. |
no one should be untouchable because if they start thinking that they could become complacent with it |
+1. However they shouldn't all be assumed goners either.
Sorry I know...
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Haslem sure seems to like using the royal "we" instead of the first person "I".
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| bruceb wrote: | Blowing everything up mid-season would be stupid. Haslam is not stupid.
Doesn't mean, though, that Holmgren isn't put on a glide path out the door the minute Banner is aboard. Or that he already hasn't picked his HC.
Even if we pull enough wins out of the rest of this season, Shurmur probably is gone at the end of it. Keeping him would be like Holmgren keeping Mangini, with no commitment to him.
My bigger concern is that we don't put all these young players to learn completely new O and D systems.
I know a HC usually wants to pick his own OC and DC, but in this case I would be inclined to insist on one that keeps Childress, Jauron and most/all of their underlyings. |
I couldn't agree more, with pretty much all of it.
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