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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Start potter and kelemet!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DDOCKETT90 wrote:
Start potter and kelemet!


I'm no longer opposed to this. Doubt it happens and I don't think it's truly the right thing to do but things are pretty bleak here and you never know, a little experience, good or bad, may just go a long way for these two. I'm not opposed to it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never thought u would say that champ Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7 drafted offensive lineman in the past 6 drafts is paying dividends.
I think almost all of us have been calling for a little more OLine investment for quite some time.
We have to get a LT capable of starting as a rookie. Just quit screwing around with it. Damn.
But we suck it up this year and hope we can hold it together with max protects.
How 'bout fewer 7 step drops.
Snyder sucks. wow.
Sendlein needs to start acting like a captain.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DDOCKETT90 wrote:
Start potter and kelemet!


Only if we are willing to help Potter with a TE every now and then
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give the rookies a try. We need to see what we have in them.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thier might be something in the fact that we got noticeably better with the 2nd and 3rd string OL in the game in preseason, yeah they were going up against 2nd and 3rd string defensive units, but we actually had time.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not too keen on putting Potter in as much as I am Kelemet. Batiste has done OK from time-to-time, but since Snyder is injured, I could support giving him some rest for a while to see what the rook can do.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TE help first and foremost

Then the rooks

Then pray like hell

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just watched the spotlight on Vonnie Holiday interview on azcardinals.com and it occurred to me from things that Vonnie was saying.

Does this offensive line lack leadership? Do they lack a guy that when things are not going well will set them down and give them a chat, that is in the past, we have to move forward, lets buckle down and keep this thing going.

I don't see a leader on our OL, and I haven't for the past few years. Often times it is the C that needs to step up.
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khodder wrote:
Just watched the spotlight on Vonnie Holiday interview on azcardinals.com and it occurred to me from things that Vonnie was saying.

Does this offensive line lack leadership? Do they lack a guy that when things are not going well will set them down and give them a chat, that is in the past, we have to move forward, lets buckle down and keep this thing going.

I don't see a leader on our OL, and I haven't for the past few years. Often times it is the C that needs to step up.


Jeremy Bridges was sort of a leader. He at least was very vocal. I see what you mean, this line lacks a bunch of things.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
Just watched the spotlight on Vonnie Holiday interview on azcardinals.com and it occurred to me from things that Vonnie was saying.

Does this offensive line lack leadership? Do they lack a guy that when things are not going well will set them down and give them a chat, that is in the past, we have to move forward, lets buckle down and keep this thing going.

I don't see a leader on our OL, and I haven't for the past few years. Often times it is the C that needs to step up.


Speaking of this. I was talking to another Fan on the main forum who was at the Dolphins game and he said Grimm rarely got with the OL to talk to them.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boise&cards Fan wrote:
khodder wrote:
Just watched the spotlight on Vonnie Holiday interview on azcardinals.com and it occurred to me from things that Vonnie was saying.

Does this offensive line lack leadership? Do they lack a guy that when things are not going well will set them down and give them a chat, that is in the past, we have to move forward, lets buckle down and keep this thing going.

I don't see a leader on our OL, and I haven't for the past few years. Often times it is the C that needs to step up.


Speaking of this. I was talking to another Fan on the main forum who was at the Dolphins game and he said Grimm rarely got with the OL to talk to them.


The protection schemes worked well in the first three weeks. We faced a good pass rush in the Seahawks and a good pass rush in the Eagles. I'd like to see what the rooks Potter and Kelemente have but honestly, I don't think they'd do that while sitting at 4-1. We got to 4-1 with this unit and basically need to figure out how to keep winning games. If they lose 3 in a row to go to 4-4, I could see them shifting the line up and trying something else.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The protection schemes worked well in the first three weeks. We faced a good pass rush in the Seahawks and a good pass rush in the Eagles. I'd like to see what the rooks Potter and Kelemente have but honestly, I don't think they'd do that while sitting at 4-1. We got to 4-1 with this unit and basically need to figure out how to keep winning games. If they lose 3 in a row to go to 4-4, I could see them shifting the line up and trying something else.


I agree. Whomever was behind the decision to abandon a gameplan down 4 points and start slinging the ball all over the field needs to have their responsibilities reviewed.

I can understand up coming out slinging vs Miami down 13 at the half, but against the Rams there was no need to do that it looked like our offensive staff (Miller) panicked and started going to have 4 wide sets all day rather than keeping it tight, keeping the running game as a option, using the TE's to both block and catch, utilize playaction.

You are down less than one score, and you panic. Not good.
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I know you guys are anti-Blockbuster but what's the most you'd give Miami before the trade deadline if he'd agree to sign a 5/60 extension here? Long is only 27 and a top 3 player at his position... If he hits the market we'll likely get outbid. We could play poker if Miami chooses to tag n' trade him but there's no guarantee we'd be favorites to land him if we wait. Strike while the iron's hot says this frustrated fan.
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