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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abe56 wrote:
Only chance the Bills have is if Alex Smith is beyond horrendous and has like 5 or 6 turnovers.


6 turnovers? Last year and this year, combined into one game? Gosh. I hope that doesn't happen!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The bills had no chance

Disagree. The Bills definitely have more than a 0% chance to win this game....

The Bills have a good team, they are just inconsistent, and have too many turnovers in games they lose.
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The Bills defense should not give up the same rush yardage. They played the pass last week and ended up failing at both. This week they won't be as fearful, facing Alex Smith.

Spiller is back and healthy this week. The Bills looked like a different team in the games that he was featured. Jackson should be full go as well. Unfortunately they will be missing a couple key lineman for this game.

You never know what you will get with the Bills but I would not call this a gimme.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No game is a gimme.

San Fran's offense is fluky. I would press the hell out of their receivers and stack the box and force Smith to make throws. Don't even worry about the threat of Moss, Manningham, Davis. If you get Alex Smith in a 3rd and 7+ then he won't convert... fact.

Offensively Buffalo can move the ball. Really, San Fran's defense isn't as complicated or crazy as you might think. The problem is that you can't make any mistakes... unfortunately, the Bills are led by Ryan Fitzpatrick so I don't see that happening.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abe56 wrote:
Only chance the Bills have is if Alex Smith is beyond horrendous and has like 5 or 6 turnovers.


Eh ... that's a bit extreme.

If the Bills can just limit their own turnovers and not get torched by the run, they will have a chance to win this game. A chance.

Stranger things have happened... I mean, this is the same Niners team that lost to the Vikings.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who should i start in fantasy?

Jackson or Spiller???
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheKillerNacho wrote:
Abe56 wrote:
Only chance the Bills have is if Alex Smith is beyond horrendous and has like 5 or 6 turnovers.


Eh ... that's a bit extreme.

If the Bills can just limit their own turnovers and not get torched by the run, they will have a chance to win this game. A chance.

Stranger things have happened... I mean, this is the same Niners team that lost to the Vikings.


Vikings are pretty good and that was on the road.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TheKillerNacho wrote:
Abe56 wrote:
Only chance the Bills have is if Alex Smith is beyond horrendous and has like 5 or 6 turnovers.


Eh ... that's a bit extreme.

If the Bills can just limit their own turnovers and not get torched by the run, they will have a chance to win this game. A chance.

Stranger things have happened... I mean, this is the same Niners team that lost to the Vikings.


Vikings are pretty good and that was on the road.


And, they pretty much played a perfect game. Even the "elite" teams rarely do that.
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Who should i start in fantasy?

Jackson or Spiller???
neither, have you seen our run defense?
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RaisinBran wrote:
Who should i start in fantasy?

Jackson or Spiller???
neither, have you seen our run defense?

Sorry, "neither" isn't an option lol.

I have Deangelo Williams, Spiller, and Fred Jackson. Have to start one of them.

Seattle's D is hella good too and Cam takes away D-will's TD's so I don't really want to start him.
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RaisinBran wrote:
steadypimpin wrote:
RaisinBran wrote:
Who should i start in fantasy?

Jackson or Spiller???
neither, have you seen our run defense?

Sorry, "neither" isn't an option lol.

I have Deangelo Williams, Spiller, and Fred Jackson. Have to start one of them.

Seattle's D is hella good too and Cam takes away D-will's TD's so I don't really want to start him.
Maybe Spiller then, our defense has a harder time with the quick speedy backs.
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TheKillerNacho wrote:
After watching Buffalo's DLine get beaten, gashed, and destroyed last week as the Patriots ran all over them... I don't think their DLine will be "killing" anyone. Much less a team with Frank Gore.

RainbowCarebear wrote:
Who would ever try against Buffalo? Just run the ball. Make them stop you. They haven't stopped anyone the last couple of years.

Personally I don't think Buffalo stands much of a chance. They have been very poor on the road and going to the west coast to play a very good 49ers team is a tough task for any east coast team.

However, Buffalo's struggles stopping the run are being overstated. Though it is only through 4 games, the Patriots game is the only one we struggled to stop the run. In that game we stayed in a nickel package with Scott playing LB. For all intents and purposes, it was a dime. The idea was to take away the pass. The Patriots made adjustments, our staff did not and we got run on to the tune of 247.

The Jets only averaged 3.2 YPC as a team though. The Browns run game was shut down. Kansas City racked up a bunch of yards in garbage time but at the point where Buffalo scored to make it 35-3, they were averaging just 2.2 YPC.

Granted none of these teams are the 49ers, just pointing out that the Bills run defense is not as pourous as it has been in years past.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RaisinBran wrote:
steadypimpin wrote:
RaisinBran wrote:
Who should i start in fantasy?

Jackson or Spiller???
neither, have you seen our run defense?

Sorry, "neither" isn't an option lol.

I have Deangelo Williams, Spiller, and Fred Jackson. Have to start one of them.

Seattle's D is hella good too and Cam takes away D-will's TD's so I don't really want to start him.


Apologies for not seeing many Bills games. I'd say whomever is most like Marshawn Lynch. He was the only one that was able to really gash us last year.
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Ataal wrote:
RaisinBran wrote:
steadypimpin wrote:
RaisinBran wrote:
Who should i start in fantasy?

Jackson or Spiller???
neither, have you seen our run defense?

Sorry, "neither" isn't an option lol.

I have Deangelo Williams, Spiller, and Fred Jackson. Have to start one of them.

Seattle's D is hella good too and Cam takes away D-will's TD's so I don't really want to start him.


Apologies for not seeing many Bills games. I'd say whomever is most like Marshawn Lynch. He was the only one that was able to really gash us last year.
Neither. Spiller is absolute lightning. Pure speed, enough power to run through arm tackles, but that is about it.

Jackson is more of a slippery guy. He isn't going to power through a LB or push a pile 5 yards forward. I would equate his running style to a rich mans Michael Bush if that helps at all.

Both are excellent receivers out of the backfield as well. Spiller was playing WR for a stretch last season when our WR corps had the injury bug.
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DKTurtle51 wrote:
Ataal wrote:
RaisinBran wrote:
steadypimpin wrote:
RaisinBran wrote:
Who should i start in fantasy?

Jackson or Spiller???
neither, have you seen our run defense?

Sorry, "neither" isn't an option lol.

I have Deangelo Williams, Spiller, and Fred Jackson. Have to start one of them.

Seattle's D is hella good too and Cam takes away D-will's TD's so I don't really want to start him.


Apologies for not seeing many Bills games. I'd say whomever is most like Marshawn Lynch. He was the only one that was able to really gash us last year.
Neither. Spiller is absolute lightning. Pure speed, enough power to run through arm tackles, but that is about it.

Jackson is more of a slippery guy. He isn't going to power through a LB or push a pile 5 yards forward. I would equate his running style to a rich mans Michael Bush if that helps at all.

Both are excellent receivers out of the backfield as well. Spiller was playing WR for a stretch last season when our WR corps had the injury bug.


That's a tough one, then. Possibly Jackson, then. Speed is good, but we rarely miss tackles.

Going to be an interesting game, regardless. I certainly don't expect to see another 34-0 game. Heck, I didn't even expect it against the Jets. I thought for sure we'd build an early lead and go straight into prevent and allowing a late score like we usually do.
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