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Better WR?

Demaryius Thomas

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Dez Bryant

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Harper41

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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:42 am Post subject:

canadaluvsdalla wrote:

Harper41 wrote:

Demaryius Thomas. Look how good he's playing now that he has a great QB. Thomas is going to be a great WR. Dez? Eh not so much, guys a head case with inconsistent hands.

LOL. Kay Cowboys fans might as well give up on this thread. Can't force knowledge to those who don't wish to learn.

He is. I don't even know how you can defend it? He's been in trouble, he checks in and out of games mentally, the Cowboys had to basically assign a babysitter to him and its been pretty evident him and Romo aren't on the same page. I wouldn't take him on the Saints, even with his talent.
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:06 am Post subject:

Matts4313 wrote:

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Injured his rookie year

So was Dez... And most of his sophomore year to.

Torn Achilles, Broken Foot, Broken Hand. Not to mention how "raw" he was coming out of GT and how he supposedly couldn't run a single route when really just wasn't asked too.
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LikesHAM

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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:35 am Post subject:

Give me Dez Bryant still. He has a certain cockiness about him that alot of great WRs have had over the years.

Of course he also has other things besides cockiness which he needs to rein in.....

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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:45 am Post subject:

LikesHAM wrote:

Give me Dez Bryant still. He has a certain cockiness about him that alot of great WRs have had over the years.

Of course he also has other things besides cockiness which he needs to rein in.....

Cockiness about what? Laughing

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ArodFanboy

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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:02 am Post subject:

LikesHAM wrote:

Give me Dez Bryant still. He has a certain cockiness about him that alot of great WRs have had over the years.

Of course he also has other things besides cockiness which he needs to rein in.....

Did you seriously just pick Dez due to "cockiness"? Laughing

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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:10 am Post subject:

ArodFanboy wrote:

LikesHAM wrote:

Give me Dez Bryant still. He has a certain cockiness about him that alot of great WRs have had over the years.

Of course he also has other things besides cockiness which he needs to rein in.....

Did you seriously just pick Dez due to "cockiness"? Laughing

I believe he did. Then again, cocky WRs like TO, Moss, Holmes and Dez over humble WRs like Megatron, Fitz, Wayne and DT any day of the week.
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:53 am Post subject:

BroncoinGermany wrote:

ArodFanboy wrote:

LikesHAM wrote:

Give me Dez Bryant still. He has a certain cockiness about him that alot of great WRs have had over the years.

Of course he also has other things besides cockiness which he needs to rein in.....

Did you seriously just pick Dez due to "cockiness"? Laughing

I believe he did. Then again, cocky WRs like TO, Moss, Holmes and Dez over humble WRs like Megatron, Fitz, Wayne and DT any day of the week.

Seems Logical.
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:54 am Post subject:

BroncoinGermany wrote:

ArodFanboy wrote:

LikesHAM wrote:

Give me Dez Bryant still. He has a certain cockiness about him that alot of great WRs have had over the years.

Of course he also has other things besides cockiness which he needs to rein in.....

Did you seriously just pick Dez due to "cockiness"? Laughing

I believe he did. Then again, cocky WRs like TO, Moss, Holmes and Dez over humble WRs like Megatron, Fitz, Wayne and DT any day of the week.

The first two you listed are sure fire hall of famers. Jerry Rice was also very cocky just not as loud as TO or Moss. Same with Deion Sanders.

The great WRs have a confidence which sometimes comes off as cockiness. The belief that they will win any matchup. The confidence to go against any CB. The confidence to think they can come down with any catch. Calvin Johnson might not be cocky to the media but no WR attempts some of the catches he does without having the utmost confidence (bordeline cocky)in themselves. I just don't see that from Thomas. When I say being cocky I don't mean talking trash or showboating or any of that. I mean having the confidence to think that you are always better than your opponent. The best players in the league like Aaron Rodgers, Adrian Peterson, Tom Brady, Ray Lewis all play with that confidence. I don't see that from Thomas. I've seen it at times from Dez.

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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:09 am Post subject:

LikesHAM wrote:

BroncoinGermany wrote:

ArodFanboy wrote:

LikesHAM wrote:

Give me Dez Bryant still. He has a certain cockiness about him that alot of great WRs have had over the years.

Of course he also has other things besides cockiness which he needs to rein in.....

Did you seriously just pick Dez due to "cockiness"? Laughing

I believe he did. Then again, cocky WRs like TO, Moss, Holmes and Dez over humble WRs like Megatron, Fitz, Wayne and DT any day of the week.

Well TO, Moss, and Deion Sanders had amazing play (Not always for TO) to back it up.

Confident players play better than Bryant. Bryant would be playing better if he just had more confidence.

Thomas is humble and lets his play do the talking. And he runs like a beast after the catch. When you stiff arm Polamalu to the ground, and abuse people like he has, he must be confident otherwise he wouldn't be abusing these guys.

He just doesn't make a scene about it. That's the only difference. He's a quiet guy. He barely knows what to say in interviews. He's like talking to an offensive lineman.
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:24 am Post subject:

LikesHAM wrote:

The great WRs have a confidence which sometimes comes off as cockiness. The belief that they will win any matchup. The confidence to go against any CB. The confidence to think they can come down with any catch. Calvin Johnson might not be cocky to the media but no WR attempts some of the catches he does without having the utmost confidence (bordeline cocky)in themselves. I just don't see that from Thomas. When I say being cocky I don't mean talking trash or showboating or any of that. I mean having the confidence to think that you are always better than your opponent. The best players in the league like Aaron Rodgers, Adrian Peterson, Tom Brady, Ray Lewis all play with that confidence. I don't see that from Thomas. I've seen it at times from Dez.

Yeh you are probably right. That one handed grab with the ball coming over his shoulder this past Sunday probably shows a lack of confidence ...

You are talking rubbish.
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:28 am Post subject:

LikesHAM wrote:

BroncoinGermany wrote:

ArodFanboy wrote:

LikesHAM wrote:

Give me Dez Bryant still. He has a certain cockiness about him that alot of great WRs have had over the years.

Of course he also has other things besides cockiness which he needs to rein in.....

Did you seriously just pick Dez due to "cockiness"? Laughing

I believe he did. Then again, cocky WRs like TO, Moss, Holmes and Dez over humble WRs like Megatron, Fitz, Wayne and DT any day of the week.

The point is: You can be as cocky or confident in your abilities as you want, yet if you cannot/are not willing to pay attention to the finer details of playing the position, your mindest to go up against any opponent and get the better of him is worth nothing. Pride comes before a fall. Dez can go up against any good corner worth his pay thinking that he is going to beat him based on talent and ability alone. He might actually win a few duels along the way. But more often than not, the route he should have run crisper is going to lead to a missed play. Talent and confidence because of the seemingly sheer abundance of the former can only get you so far. Cockiness or confidence simply does not play the role you make it out to be. That mixture of being (over-)confident and not caring too much has helped run a lot of players out of the league over the years. So to pick Dez instead of DT because the latter has a supposed lack in confidence is interesting. Especially if DT getting up in the grill of Ike Taylor and staring at him after a successful catch, as seen during the last two Pitt games, would resemble your definition of confidence.
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:18 pm Post subject:

Matts4313 wrote:

dbronx42 wrote:

more productive.

WHOAAAAKKKYYY

Since he's actually been healthy, I don't think you can realy argue this. You can make comments like this as much as you want, but no one has been more productive than Demaryius Thomas over the past 11 weeks/playoffs. Not Calvin Johnson, not Larry Fitzgerald, no one. I'm not saying he's better than those guys, but let's not act like Dez has put up those kind of numbers.

Oh and Thomas is ONE receiving yard from the league lead this year. Where's Dez? Oh not in the Top 40 in yards this year. Got it.
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject:

broncos67 wrote:

Matts4313 wrote:

dbronx42 wrote:

more productive.

WHOAAAAKKKYYY

The Cowboys had a bye week last week... so there goes that logic.
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:53 pm Post subject:

Its too late guys. The Bronco fans has slipped up thier homer shades on. Nothing shall ever penetrate that. Not only do they want us to admit DT is better than DB but apparently hes a mile ahead too....yeah keep sipping that neon orange kool-aid.
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:20 pm Post subject:

canadaluvsdalla wrote:

He absolutely is, and this is coming from an unbiased fan in this situation. Thomas came in to the league very raw, but since he has developed he's shown he has everything it takes to be a #1 for a long time. Dez hasn't even looked like a good #2 this year so far. They both come from rough situations, but Thomas never has let it become a problem since he's joined the league. Dez has. There isn't any way around that. I loved Dez coming out. Thought he'd be a star. I'm not saying he still can't be, but he's not going to get there this way. If anyone has homer shades on right now, it's you.
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