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Django


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:18 am    Post subject: Andy Dalton vs. Cam Reply with quote

Dalton has the wins and currently more TDs. (By like 10 now)

Cam has the potential, but a lower floor.

They actually have similar QB ratings and QBR (who cares, I think its a good stat so what Laughing )

But again Dalton has had no "leadership issues" and is winning. Then again...Ron Rivera is probably a worse coach than Marvin Lewis.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Dalton ... but without Aj Green he doesn't work with anyone else.

The two have a chemistry thats so amazing for two sophomore players.

Personally if I were to switch the two I believe that Cam would be putting up better numbers in Cincy than Dalton in Carolina.

Personally I think Cam is a better player
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panthers would probably be more successful this year with Dalton. Losing is a bad habbit.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MileHighNuck wrote:
Panthers would probably be more successful this year with Dalton. Losing is a bad habbit.


Yea Dalton probably wins two or three more games now in Carolina.

Cam may have more "potential" to win big in Cincinnati

(if you had them switch teams)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Django wrote:
MileHighNuck wrote:
Panthers would probably be more successful this year with Dalton. Losing is a bad habbit.


Yea Dalton probably wins two or three more games now in Carolina.


Based off of what? What 3 games would he have won for us that "Cam" did not?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd probably take Cam at this point. Dalton closed the gap, but still has a lot to improve on. Cam struggled early but he's looked better lately...
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Should see some Orlovsky vs Manziel this week in the battle of "who's less aware of their surroundings"

Orlovsky has too much experience here. Manziel doesn't stand a chance.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iknowcool wrote:
Django wrote:
MileHighNuck wrote:
Panthers would probably be more successful this year with Dalton. Losing is a bad habbit.


Yea Dalton probably wins two or three more games now in Carolina.


Based off of what? What 3 games would he have won for us that "Cam" did not?


definitely the seattle game. a 8 year old qb could have made that throw
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dalton is horrid without green. Easily newton.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MileHighNuck wrote:
Panthers would probably be more successful this year with Dalton. Losing is a bad habbit.


This doesn't make any sense.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easily Newton. Not a fan of Dalton's. He has a ceiling of a prime Hasselbeck IMO. Cam could be in discussion for GOAT if he hits his ceiling. That said, Can has a much lower floor then Dalton.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy Dalton is the definition of mediocrity at the Quarterback position. Rumors even came out from Jay Gruden that people inside the Franchise did not think he was the longterm solution.

Dalton lacks great pocket awareness, great arm strength, or advanced ability to read through progressions. Cam Newton is having a rough second season, but he has through the roof potential. The question is can he learn to be a better teammate and win over the locker room, be a leader if you will.

Dalton's perfect for Mike Brown, an owner that refuses to pay players. The question is what would Andy Dalton look like without A.J. Green?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newton.
Dalton isn't very good at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conquest8089 wrote:
Rumors even came out from Jay Gruden that people inside the Franchise did not think he was the longterm solution.


Source?

And wow a lot of over-reactions on Dalton after last nights game. Calm down folks, everyone has a down game...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People do realize Andy Dalton does have 30 total tds this year...with 2 games remaining right?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think either one is a good passer. But Cam can make so much happen with his athleticism. So I would take Cam.
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