ESPN stat that exposed Christian Ponder

NFLFan76 · Joined: 15 May 2012 Posts: 415

I haven't seen one Vikings game this season but it was stated on ESPN a few days ago that Ponder is averaging just under 6 yds a pass. And that explains why he hasn't thrown a INT yet because the coach doesn't have him doing much during the game. So Ponder is not doing anything all that spectacular after 4 weeks with the stats below

The longest pass he has thrown this season is 29 yds???

So how long do the Vikings plan to HIDE their QB? Is it that they don't trust him? That has to be the case since he has not thrown a pass over 30 yds all season

JammerHammer21 · Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 18041 Location: Anywhere

Exposing sounds like everyone thought he was a great QB and he actually isn't. Right now, he's an average QB playing in a conservative offense that will start to open up as he progresses.

And just because he hasn't thrown the ball more than 30 yards doesn't mean they don't trust him. They are winning. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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mozwanted · Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Posts: 16718

he isnt known for his arm. Hes a chad pennington type qb

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detfan782004 · Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Posts: 39119 Location: Montana

While I do agree the offense is dumbed down for him and he is a game manager the following shows that you cant simply go by YPA

Ponder 6.7

Rodgers 6.8
Stafford 6.8
Rivers 7.1

So YPA isnt everything.

The long of only 29 is a real concern though. This is not a team built to come from behind so they will have to rely on the defense and run game.

SF dumbed down their playbook for A. Smith last year and it worked well.

Everyone will say he has a high comp % but that is the design. All the above guys I mentioned in that range also have a high % too. That is why I listed them. All top ten in league in comp %

Ponder is a game manager and they can win with it
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vikingsrule · Last edited by vikingsrule on Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:29 am; edited 2 times in total

joru1000 · Joined: 23 Jan 2012 Posts: 1815

He took two deep shots last week which were 50+. Both of them were called DPI.

Christian Ponder hasn't been in a situation this season where he had to throw deep balls because we've had the lead in every game we've played except the Colts, in which he drove the ball down field to tie it and send it to overtime.
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Uncle Buck · Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Posts: 14032 Location: Viking Country

There are two reasons for this:

1) He is still a very young quarterback who is learning to play at the NFL level. No use in trying to push him beyond his abilities at this point as long as the team is winning.

2) Ponder hasn't really had any WR's who can consistently get open on deep routes. The one receiver we have who can be considered a deep threat is Jerome Simpson, and he wasn't playing for the first three games due to suspension.

Ponder has essentially been playing with a Pro-Bowl caliber slot receiver (Harvin) and a very good young TE (Kyle Rudolph). I wouldn't even consider Simpson a true #1 receiver for that matter. So far I'm happy with what Ponder has been doing. He isn't making too many mistakes, and we are winning. Not much more you can ask for when you have a young QB and limited weapons in the receiving corps.
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JammerHammer21 · Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 18041 Location: Anywhere

PurpleMugen · Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:33 am Post subject:

The point OP is making carries a little weight because the coaching staff does try to protect Ponder by giving him highly simplified options in the passing game but that worthwhile analysis is lost in the midst of his obvious trolling. *shrug*
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vikingsrule · Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:34 am Post subject:

Ponder's throwing velocity is just fine. Sure he doesnt have a cannon to chuck it 60+ yards downfield, but that is a throw that Qbs rarely make so who really cares.

Ponder can push the ball 45 yards down field and he has enough zip to fit it into tight windows. Ponder's struggles have come from ball placement and decision making. Ponder has a comparable arm to Drew Brees when Brees was still a young QB in SD. It took Brees awhile to figure out the capabilities of his arm at the next level.