| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
joru1000
Joined: 23 Jan 2012
Posts: 1815
|
 Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:31 pm Post subject: |
 |
|
|
Averaged 7.4 yards an attempt today. That's above average. I'm content.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
QB Connoisseur
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
Posts: 3311
Location: Tiger Stadium
|
| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
Why does it matter if you're winning games? They've built a system where he doesn't have to throw the ball deep. Look at what Harbaugh did in SF to fit Alex Smith.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SteelKing728
Joined: 23 Aug 2008
Posts: 10849
Location: Pittsburgh
|
| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| QB Connoisseur wrote: | | Why does it matter if you're winning games? They've built a system where he doesn't have to throw the ball deep. Look at what Harbaugh did in SF to fit Alex Smith. |
Our offense looked much better today, and we did hit some deeper passes. Ponder was due for a few picks.
But at the same time, he helped us put it away, one with a pass to Harvin where Harvin made a huge play to score, and another a perfect 20 yard TD pass to Rudolph.
I'd say he's just fine. He's playing at a great level right now, and I don't care what stats say.
_________________
Thanks Jamison on that avi.
2013 Adopt a Minnesota Viking - Jared Allen - DE - #69 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ATL Jones Bro3
Joined: 06 Dec 2010
Posts: 335
|
| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Who care? What he's doing is working their 4-1. Stop hating. Why are people so obsessed with every QB throwing deep bombs every other play? if it works it works. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
[UMN]
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
Posts: 11821
Location: Desolation Row
|
| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
Whoever is saying they are "dumbing down the offense" or Ponder doesn't have the arm strength to go down field needs to actually watch a Vikings game. They call deep throws, the WR's just can't get open and Ponder is smart enough to find an OPEN WR and not just chuck it up there. Bill Musgrave (Vikings' OC) has said multiple times that they call deep plays but nobody is open. Ponder has been extremely accurate when asked to go down field, and has plenty of arm strength.
The Vikings are built around defense, running the ball, and sustaining drives with Harvin and Rudolph in the short-intermediate passing game. No reason to lob up jump balls when you can effectively move the ball in other ways.
_________________
| Swift924 wrote: | | If Vikings win more than 7 games. Ill buy every Viking fan here lunch |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
RandyMossIsBoss
Joined: 01 Jun 2012
Posts: 8077
Location: Peppers90 on the sig, Kiltman on the avy
|
| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
lol how are Y/A and longest pass "ESPN stats"... Total QBR, that's an "ESPN stat."
_________________
Chip...Chip...Chipadelphia |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
NFLFan76
Joined: 15 May 2012
Posts: 415
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| RandyMossIsBoss wrote: | | lol how are Y/A and longest pass "ESPN stats"... Total QBR, that's an "ESPN stat." |
I was saying I heard the stat on ESPN |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
NFLFan76
Joined: 15 May 2012
Posts: 415
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| ATL Jones Bro3 wrote: | | Who care? What he's doing is working their 4-1. Stop hating. Why are people so obsessed with every QB throwing deep bombs every other play? if it works it works. |
Yup until yesterday the longest pass he threw was 29 yds so yes I wanted to see could he take longer shots down the field. Only because it was mentioned he had yet to throw a INT. And I was able to find out because he wasn;t throwing that many long passes until yesterday which gave him his first INT |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Titansfan
Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 7251
Location: England
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| joru1000 wrote: | | Averaged 7.4 yards an attempt today. That's above average. I'm content. |
It was only the Titans don't get too excited. We have possibly the worst defence in the league. Actually there's no possibly, they are the worst.
_________________
Props to JammerHammer on the awesome sig! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ataal
Joined: 17 Oct 2011
Posts: 1578
Location: Avondale, Arizona
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
I don't understand the problem.....
He's winning games and he's playing very good football. Who cares if he isn't throwing 50+ yard bombs all day? You know what you get from that? Turnovers. Lots of them.
Was someone touting Ponder as a QB that could throw the ball 100 yards at at a time? I don't get where this even came from.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KhanYouDigIt
Joined: 03 Jan 2012
Posts: 3610
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| joru1000 wrote: | | Averaged 7.4 yards an attempt today. That's above average. I'm content. |
Thanks to Percy's YAC.
_________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
vikingsrule
Joined: 15 Nov 2005
Posts: 39466
Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes!
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| KhanYouDigIt wrote: | | joru1000 wrote: | | Averaged 7.4 yards an attempt today. That's above average. I'm content. |
Thanks to Percy's YAC. |
Harvin caught a 45 yard pass against the Titans, down field. Barely any YAC. YAC helps Ponder, of course, just as it does for any good QB who knows how to get the ball to his playmakers. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KhanYouDigIt
Joined: 03 Jan 2012
Posts: 3610
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| vikingsrule wrote: | | KhanYouDigIt wrote: | | joru1000 wrote: | | Averaged 7.4 yards an attempt today. That's above average. I'm content. |
Thanks to Percy's YAC. |
Harvin caught a 45 yard pass against the Titans, down field. Barely any YAC. YAC helps Ponder, of course, just as it does for any good QB who knows how to get the ball to his playmakers. |
Ball only thrown 18 yards in the air, Percy did the rest. On Harvin's 10 yard TD catch, Harvin caught ball 5 yards behind the LS, Harvin did the rest.
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kellerman
Joined: 16 May 2010
Posts: 3165
Location: Amsterdam
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| KhanYouDigIt wrote: | | vikingsrule wrote: | | KhanYouDigIt wrote: | | joru1000 wrote: | | Averaged 7.4 yards an attempt today. That's above average. I'm content. |
Thanks to Percy's YAC. |
Harvin caught a 45 yard pass against the Titans, down field. Barely any YAC. YAC helps Ponder, of course, just as it does for any good QB who knows how to get the ball to his playmakers. |
Ball only thrown 18 yards in the air, Percy did the rest. On Harvin's 10 yard TD catch, Harvin caught ball 5 yards behind the LS, Harvin did the rest. |
That TD was obviously all Harvin. Of course there was also another TD to Rudolph, on a great throw into the endzone.
As for the 45 yard pass, are you serious? Ponder delivers a perfect ball to Harvin, allowing him to catch it in stride and keep running. He doesn't even make anyone miss, he just catches the ball in stride and keeps going. How is that not a great play by the QB?
People will see what they want to see. Fact of the matter remains that Ponder has made a remarkable jump in his efficiency and decision making this year. But I guess Tom Brady isn't that good either, after all, he just plays pitch and catch with guys like Gronkowski, Hernandez and Welker, right?
_________________
sig by Jamison
#97 Everson Griffin: 0 tackles : 0 sacks : 0 FF
Last edited by Kellerman on Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:07 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
NFLFan76
Joined: 15 May 2012
Posts: 415
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Ataal wrote: | I don't understand the problem.....
He's winning games and he's playing very good football. Who cares if he isn't throwing 50+ yard bombs all day? You know what you get from that? Turnovers. Lots of them.
Was someone touting Ponder as a QB that could throw the ball 100 yards at at a time? I don't get where this even came from. |
You don't understand the problem? It's because at some point as a QB he will be forced to make plays that will help his team. The vikings can hide him forever. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
