So, 5k Yards and 40 TDs......Not The Norm??

x0x · Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 13912 Location: Ontario, Canada

There were many people who last year said was an anomaly. A product of a sparse off-season and defenses not meshing early.

There were of course those that said, like when 4,000 yards and 30 TDs became a season occurence, the era had changed.

So, with 6 weeks in the books (except Chargers/Broncos) the following players are projected for either 5,000 passing yards or 40 TDs or more:

Drew Brees-45 TDs & 5,504 Yards
Aaron Rodgers-43 TDs

Brady is projected for 4,920 Yards

Matt Ryan and Peyton are currently projected for 4,800 yards and 36+ TDs.

And of course several QBs are projected for 4,500+ and 30+ TDs so that's not even in the discussion.
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joru1000 · Joined: 23 Jan 2012 Posts: 1816

i don't even know what an elite QB season should look like statistically anymore.
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Wolverine_Joe · Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 2674

still the pace is much slower than the last year. i think brees is the only one whoas a legitimate shot at 5000 yards again. and i think only 1 QB will get to 40+tds this year.

lionslicer · Joined: 06 Nov 2010 Posts: 1759

Season so far has been up and down and odd... I think a few weeks ago, there weren't any quarterbacks on set for 40 TD's, but there were a few who were projected to get 5000 yards, including Vick.

Last season was odd enough, and this season isn't much different. Wait a couple weeks before we start projecting 5000 yards for everyone and their mother.
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Vikefan79 · Joined: 05 Apr 2005 Posts: 25122 Location: Atlanta

I absolutely hate it. It's really not fun to watch. Corners can't play defense anymore. It's pass interference if you just brush up next to the guy after 5 yards. Deion Sanders would have a hard time stopping these timing routes.

Terry Bradshaw summed up my feelings perfectly when he spoke about Brees breaking Unitas' record.

vikingsrule · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:41 am Post subject:

Are there just an abnormal level of HOF QBs (Brady, Arod, Manning (x2), Brees, Big Ben?) playing in this era or is this era more prone to producing more HOF worthy QBs?

Might be a combination of both. Numbers seem to be up in the grand scheme of things, but looking at some of the elite mile stones 40 TDs and 5000 yards, my guess is there are just an abundance of HOF Worthy QBs.

Stafford did hit 5000 last year, I am not implying that he is a HOF QB, but he is throwing to a WR with HOF potential in an offense that had no running game. I think more teams are becoming more accepting that you dont really need to run the ball to be a good team, so my guess would be passing attempts are probably up now versus the past decade.

Eventually it will probably climax and we will probably see offenses become more balanced once again. Right now, if you dont have a QB who can potentially fling it around and put up a 4000 yard season with ease, your probably toast. The 49ers seemed like the rare exception last yr.

Jakuvious · Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Posts: 4616

The more astounding thing to me is how little receiving totals have changed comparatively.

In 2000, the league saw 18 1000 yard receivers, 10 over 1300, and 6 over 1400. 5 guys topped 10 TDs, with 10 topped 9 TDs. Yet you only had 3 4000 yard passers (the leader topped out at 4413), 3 guys over 30 passing TDs (the max was 33), and only one 65% completion rate.

Fast forward to 2011, and the QB numbers skyrocket. 4 guys completing 65% of their passes (one at over 70%), 10 4000 yard passers (and 3 5000 yarders), and 5 guys tossing over 30 TDs (3 over 40.)

But receivers in 2011 still only saw 19 1000 yard receivers, only 7 over 1300, and 4 over 1400. Still just 5 guys with over 10 receiving TDs. 10 had 9 or more.

Hell, you can go back to 1985 and still find 11 1000 yard receivers and 6 guys with over 10 receiving TDs. But that year will only give you one 4000 yard passer (Marino at just over 4100), one 30 TD passer (Marino locked right at 30) and no one completing over 62% of their passes, let alone 65% or the ridiculous 70% that was hit last year.

The proficiency with which modern passers are spreading the ball around and maximizing what they have really is astonishing.
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MysticLeviathan · Joined: 23 Jun 2012 Posts: 57

I also think a lot of it has to do with the safety reforms. In the past, defenses could smack the stuffing out of a receiver; now it's a 15 yard penalty. Defenses have had to change the way they play and how they can attack the QB, and I don't think they'll ever fully adjust to it.

DannyB · Joined: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 11014 Location: Boston

I know this isn't supposed to be the sole focus of this thread, but just for my two cents: If every active QB's career ended today, I still think Peyton and Brady are the only two who have their tickets punched to Canton, no questions asked. Brees maybe, or is knocking on the door at least. The others, again, if their careers ended today, have either too many question marks or their resumés are too incomplete for me to say "definitely".
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