Week 6: Seattle Seahawks vs New England Patriots

imani · Joined: 03 Mar 2009 Posts: 25337 Location: Harlem, NY

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imani · Joined: 03 Mar 2009 Posts: 25337 Location: Harlem, NY

where would chandler jones start on our dline?

*Waits for him to move red bryant to the DT position
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Tooki · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:05 am Post subject:

It isn't that Irvin is INCAPABALE of stopping the run. He isn't bad at it for a guy as raw and small as he is. But we are lucky enough to not have to rush him into playing the majority of the snaps. Irvin was and still is a raw player, and we are letting him sort out his pass rushing before we put more responsibilities on his plate. Irvin has not showed us that he can't stop the run, we haven't asked him to do it in the regular season. It appears that you are being the elitist with Chandler Jones, by dismissing Bruce Irvin (who has more sacks than Jones) because he is only asked to rush the passer. We don't need him to stop the run yet, so why rush him into it.

And are you trying to tell us that a rookie with 5 games under his belt is a better player than another rookie who has played 5 games? How about you ask this question again in a couple of years, when we will have a good gauge of where the two players are.

And Jones wouldn't start on our D-Line because he doesn't fit what the positions require. Our LE requires a 3-4 DE, NT requires a DT, UT requires a DT, and our RE position requires a smaller, quicker speed rusher. Chandler Jones would be a tweener at LE and oversized at RE.
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Sandman55 · Joined: 28 Sep 2012 Posts: 113

I suspect the guy just doesn't know we have Red Bryant playing at left end and thinks Irvin is suppose to be our starting LE.

On run downs, we play a guy that's a far better run defender than C. Jones. On pass downs, we play a guy that is likely a better pass rusher than C.Jones.

Being good against the run is of course useful for a pass rush specialist, but with Red on the team we aren't willing to give up pass rushing skill for a more well rounded, but inferior pass rusher.

In Seattle, C.Jones would be on the bench on run downs because Red would be playing. On pass downs he'd be on the bench, because Irvin would be playing. Thus, he would not be a starter in Seattle.