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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DURRRRRRR, do you get it now?, DURRRR.... WOW these Pats fans are full of themselves and their team..


Good to know we're all one poster to you.



If you weren't full of yourself you won't have even replied to this post... sorry but it's true... You somehow needed to take offense to this post!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JOEJOE wrote:
24isthelaw wrote:
JOEJOE wrote:

DURRRRRRR, do you get it now?, DURRRR.... WOW these Pats fans are full of themselves and their team..


Good to know we're all one poster to you.



If you weren't full of yourself you won't have even replied to this post... sorry but it's true... You somehow needed to take offense to this post!


Lol chill out dude. Just bored of having no where to have an actual football discussion and not just listen to people flame each other.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's gonna be here gameday?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imani wrote:
Who's gonna be here gameday?


I'll be awake for the game.

Thank god for Daylight Savings! I get an extra hour to sleep in.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imani wrote:
Who's gonna be here gameday?


I'm going to the game so unfortunately will not be here.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imani wrote:
Who's gonna be here gameday?


Ill be here at 5am bright and early Monday morning.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

24isthelaw wrote:
JOEJOE wrote:
24isthelaw wrote:
JOEJOE wrote:

DURRRRRRR, do you get it now?, DURRRR.... WOW these Pats fans are full of themselves and their team..


Good to know we're all one poster to you.



If you weren't full of yourself you won't have even replied to this post... sorry but it's true... You somehow needed to take offense to this post!


Lol chill out dude. Just bored of having no where to have an actual football discussion and not just listen to people flame each other.


You're beautiful but I'm just not ready for a serious relationship.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

animaltested wrote:
imani wrote:
Who's gonna be here gameday?


Ill be here at 5am bright and early Monday morning.


Word. Where exactly are you overseas, i can't figure out your timezone difference offhand
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I don't believe for one second that Seattle makes it out of their first playoff game.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imani wrote:
animaltested wrote:
imani wrote:
Who's gonna be here gameday?


Ill be here at 5am bright and early Monday morning.


Word. Where exactly are you overseas, i can't figure out your timezone difference offhand


It says Seoul on his profile card.

I would have said somewhere in Asia. I'm 2 hours ahead of him.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dhunt2402 wrote:
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Should be a good one to watch. Brady will get his points (probably in the 20-25 range), and I just don't see Russell Wilson matching that. Will be fun to watch the Seahawks defense at home though, I've always enjoyed watching the 12th man in action. If I had to guess, 24-13 Patriots.


I doubt Brady will be putting up 20+ points. No teams offense has scored more than 14 points on our defense. And we have faced the Panthers, Packers, and Cowboys, all who have high-powered offenses.


There's been nothing "high-powered" about Carolina or Dallas on offense this year. And Green Bay's O-Line was unbelievably awful in that game. Not much to put up against the number 1 offense in the league led by a future HOFer.

Not to say Seattle's defense won't give us problems, they will. But if we stick to the gameplan and exploit the mismatches that play to our advantage (getting the no huddle going with Irvin in and running the football right at him; Gronk/Aaron against the LBs, and Tom Brady's decision making against an aggressive front seven), I like our chances. What killed us against Arizona was getting away from our strengths, once we got back to that at the end of the game, we moved the ball at will. There aren't many teams at any point in the last decade that are/were capable of holding this offense over the course of 60 minutes.
You better hope Mebane isn't lined up next to Bruce than. Mebane is going to wreck havoc on your interior OL.


That is a guarantee.
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JOEJOE wrote:


DURRRRRRR, do you get it now?, DURRRR.... WOW these Pats fans are full of themselves and their team..


Based off what? All you are doing is this moronic act of superiority and elitism. I didn't say we would stomp the Seahawks. I think it'll be a great game and would not be surprised if the Hawks won.

That doesn't change the fact Chandler is an obviously superior player to Irvin.

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Bruce Irvin has been better than jones in rushing the passer, it's not foley. He's in the aldon smiith role where he isnt asked to stop the run. Your adding a dimension to the discussion purely to pimp your own player. It's not about stuffing the run or being a complete player, that's not his role on this team at the moment.

Chandler jones wouldn't even start on our dline


This is horrible logic and the last line is hilariously wrong.

Whether you will admit it or not, Irvin would be a better player if he could be stout against the run instead of a liability. Irvin is allowed to do nothing but tee off on pass rushing downs. Chandler has to play the run and rush the passer and has been on the field more than any other player on our defense than McCourty. Irvin is TAKEN OFF THE FIELD because he's a liability at times.

Acting like Chandler's vast superiority against the run is irrelevant is just a roundabout way of turning a blind eye to pimp your own player.

Irvins role is to rush the passer. Chandlers role is to rush the passer and stuff the run. Irvin isn't asked to stop the run not because they Seahawks wouldn't benefit from him stopping the run, but because he is incapable of doing so. Again, acting like being a one dimensional player isn't a negative is completely absurd.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

where would chandler jones start on our dline?


*Waits for him to move red bryant to the DT position
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tonyto3690 wrote:
JOEJOE wrote:


DURRRRRRR, do you get it now?, DURRRR.... WOW these Pats fans are full of themselves and their team..


Based off what? All you are doing is this moronic act of superiority and elitism. I didn't say we would stomp the Seahawks. I think it'll be a great game and would not be surprised if the Hawks won.

That doesn't change the fact Chandler is an obviously superior player to Irvin.

Plush wrote:
Bruce Irvin has been better than jones in rushing the passer, it's not foley. He's in the aldon smiith role where he isnt asked to stop the run. Your adding a dimension to the discussion purely to pimp your own player. It's not about stuffing the run or being a complete player, that's not his role on this team at the moment.

Chandler jones wouldn't even start on our dline


This is horrible logic and the last line is hilariously wrong.

Whether you will admit it or not, Irvin would be a better player if he could be stout against the run instead of a liability. Irvin is allowed to do nothing but tee off on pass rushing downs. Chandler has to play the run and rush the passer and has been on the field more than any other player on our defense than McCourty. Irvin is TAKEN OFF THE FIELD because he's a liability at times.

Acting like Chandler's vast superiority against the run is irrelevant is just a roundabout way of turning a blind eye to pimp your own player.

Irvins role is to rush the passer. Chandlers role is to rush the passer and stuff the run. Irvin isn't asked to stop the run not because they Seahawks wouldn't benefit from him stopping the run, but because he is incapable of doing so. Again, acting like being a one dimensional player isn't a negative is completely absurd.


He's taken off the field because red bryant is the starter. Your in your own world of logic and comepletely ignoring the way the coaching staff sets up this defense. Bryant and Irvin rotate just fine. There are no liabilities, we wouldn't continue to be a top 3 run D using the method otherwise.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't that Irvin is INCAPABALE of stopping the run. He isn't bad at it for a guy as raw and small as he is. But we are lucky enough to not have to rush him into playing the majority of the snaps. Irvin was and still is a raw player, and we are letting him sort out his pass rushing before we put more responsibilities on his plate. Irvin has not showed us that he can't stop the run, we haven't asked him to do it in the regular season. It appears that you are being the elitist with Chandler Jones, by dismissing Bruce Irvin (who has more sacks than Jones) because he is only asked to rush the passer. We don't need him to stop the run yet, so why rush him into it.

And are you trying to tell us that a rookie with 5 games under his belt is a better player than another rookie who has played 5 games? How about you ask this question again in a couple of years, when we will have a good gauge of where the two players are.

And Jones wouldn't start on our D-Line because he doesn't fit what the positions require. Our LE requires a 3-4 DE, NT requires a DT, UT requires a DT, and our RE position requires a smaller, quicker speed rusher. Chandler Jones would be a tweener at LE and oversized at RE.
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I suspect the guy just doesn't know we have Red Bryant playing at left end and thinks Irvin is suppose to be our starting LE.

On run downs, we play a guy that's a far better run defender than C. Jones. On pass downs, we play a guy that is likely a better pass rusher than C.Jones.

Being good against the run is of course useful for a pass rush specialist, but with Red on the team we aren't willing to give up pass rushing skill for a more well rounded, but inferior pass rusher.

In Seattle, C.Jones would be on the bench on run downs because Red would be playing. On pass downs he'd be on the bench, because Irvin would be playing. Thus, he would not be a starter in Seattle.
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