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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyingmonkey30 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
To be honest, I'm nervous about this game. The blueprint is out there on how to beat us: Jam our receivers at the line and send pressure up the middle on defense, and keep a balanced attack on offense, run the ball more than you typically would to make it close to 50/50, and when you throw, look for #29.

The fact that we're at home is the only thing that makes me even somewhat confident to be honest.

I'll go with...

Ravens 23
Cowboys 20


There is the big issue right there. As soon as Murray gets stopped for less than 2 yards, Garrett will abandon the run


This is why this team is built better to adopt the philosophy of passing to set up the run instead of the other way around. We are built to spread out the defense, pass the ball, and then run the ball from our "11" personnel. The numbers from last year and this year show Murray is more succesfull running from a single back formation. We can't allow our O-line to try and man up on the Raven's D-line. They will get destroyed if they try to go head up on them. We have to get our athletic O-line in space and on the move in order to have an effective run game I believe.
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The biggest and most important factor for this game to me is, how are we going to get to Flacco?

Getting Ratliff and Spencer back will help, no doubt. I think Crawford has earned himself more playing time and getting him in there on some passing downs would really help our pass rush.

I would like to see something like this on some obvious passing downs:

Spencer - Ratliff - Crawford

Wilber - Carter - Lee - Ware


This would give Ryan the option of bringing any combination of arguably our 5 best pass rushers on the team. Also he could bring Carter or Lee up the middle in addition.

The key here is Ryan disgusing who he will be bringing. We can't just show who is coming every single time. Their O-line is beyond good enough to handle an expected blitz. Ryan needs to be selective and creative in who he brings and when he brings it.
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42-10 Baltimore is my prediction.

Ravens score twice on defense. Sad
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DalCowboyzRule wrote:
42-10 Baltimore is my prediction.

Ravens score twice on defense. Sad


I think you are overrating their defense a bit. Yes, they are an above average defense. But do not mistake them for the Baltimore Ravens D of the last several years. I'm not saying they aren't tough, because their physical style of play will most likely overwhelm our O-Line, but I feel like they can be susceptible with the execution of the right gameplan.

And Tony will not have a repeat of the Bears game. He has a history of having good performances after a BYE and also after putting up a stinker:

2007: 10/8 @ Buffalo - 5 Int, 49.9 Rating
10/15 vs. NE - 2 TDs, 1 Int, 91 Rating

Following BYE @ Philadelphia - 3 TDs, 1 Int, 141.7 Rating

2008: 12/7 @ Pitt - 3 Int, 44.9 Rating
12/14 vs. NYG - 2 TD, 0 Int, 113.7 Rating

2009: 9/20 vs. NYG - 3 Int, 29.6 Rating
9/27 vs. Car - No TDs or Ints, but a solid performance with 89.8 Rating

Following the BYE vs. Atlanta - 3 TDs, 0 Ints, 141.6 Rating

2010: Injury Shortened Season. This could be the lone exception in his career. He wasn't playing that great overall before he got hurt.

2011: Following the stinker against Detroit, he came back the next week to give a strong performance against NE, which was also after the BYE.

Basically, throughout his career, he hasn't had back-to-back "Bad Romo" games. He makes adjustments and comes back the next week to correct them. This is especially true as he has gotten older and more experienced.
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Gosselin: If Cowboys want to beat Ravens, they need to stick with ground game


The Kansas City Chiefs did not belong on the same field with the Baltimore Ravens last week.



But the Chiefs played keep-away and came within a nullified touchdown in the game’s closing minutes of upsetting the Ravens. The washed-out TD on an offensive pass interference penalty allowed Baltimore to escape, 9-6.


The 1-4 Chiefs ran the ball 46 times for 200 yards against the once-proud Ravens run defense, controlling the clock for more than 34 minutes. Jamaal Charles ripped the Ravens for 140 yards on 30 carries, Shawn Draughn for 40 yards on 12 carries and rookie Cyrus Gray 20 yards on four carries.


The one team that defeated the Ravens this season — the Philadelphia Eagles — also relied on the handoff. The Eagles rushed 41 times for 129 yards and controlled the clock for more than 34 minutes in claiming a 24-23 victory.


To beat the Ravens, you need to run the football. But that will be out of character this week for the Cowboys, who have rushed only 31.9 percent of the time this season. That’s the fourth-worst run-pass ratio in the league.



The Chiefs spent most of the day against the Ravens running wide at weakside pass rushers Courtney Upshaw and Paul Kruger, gaining 84 yards on 23 carries. They challenged perennial Pro Bowl linebacker Ray Lewis just 12 times up the middle for 68 yards, and ran wide right 11 times for 48 yards.


You neutralize a pass rush by running at the pass rushers. Forced to tackle ball carriers instead of pursue quarterbacks, the Ravens must play a frustratingly slow chess match. Baltimore has only nine sacks this season and not a one against the Chiefs.



The Cowboys believe they have a back capable of running the ball against anyone in DeMarco Murray. But what the Cowboys lack is commitment, as evidenced by Murray’s paltry 11 carries in the loss to Chicago and 12 carries in the loss at Seattle.


To stay in the game with the host Ravens, the Cowboys can’t quit running the ball after one quarter like they did against the Bears and Seahawks. They also need left guard Nate Livings to hold his own against Baltimore’s Pro Bowl tackle Haloti Ngata. He’s one of the best run defenders in the NFL — a mobile 330-pounder who makes plays up and down the line of scrimmage.



Too few runs or too much Ngata could spell another defeat for the Cowboys.
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Id be interested to see ho Ngata has fared against Livings in the past.
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Id be interested to see ho Ngata has fared against Livings in the past.
shouldnt be hard to find those answers, considering they played each other twice a year
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Matts4313 wrote:
Id be interested to see ho Ngata has fared against Livings in the past.


I don't know how he did against Ngata specifically, but last year he was very solid against the Ravens, in two games he gave up no sacks, no hits and 1 hurry. I'm assuming he did block Ngata though, because Ngata's pass rush numbers are exactly the same as Living's in both games (first game 0,0,0 second game 0,0,1) The year before he was not quite as good, giving up no sacks, 1 hit and 3 hurries.
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Don't know how to spin this one. Better judgement tells me we get trounced! No Oline, No running Game, WR can'y catch a cold, DB's have Z-E-R-O INT's (Nice investment there J.J.), QB is rverting back to desperation play.............................

Hmmmmmm, Oh Yeah! Ratliff is back. What was I thinking? We will be fine................... NOT! Rolling Eyes



So are you saying Carr n Clairborne were not good pickups ???
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Rtnldave wrote:
Don't know how to spin this one. Better judgement tells me we get trounced! No Oline, No running Game, WR can'y catch a cold, DB's have Z-E-R-O INT's (Nice investment there J.J.), QB is rverting back to desperation play.............................

Hmmmmmm, Oh Yeah! Ratliff is back. What was I thinking? We will be fine................... NOT! Rolling Eyes



So are you saying Carr n Clairborne were not good pickups ???


Yup, it sure does suck having the #1 pass defense in the league..

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2012&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=PASSING_NET_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1
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PincheJimmy wrote:
Rtnldave wrote:
Don't know how to spin this one. Better judgement tells me we get trounced! No Oline, No running Game, WR can'y catch a cold, DB's have Z-E-R-O INT's (Nice investment there J.J.), QB is rverting back to desperation play.............................

Hmmmmmm, Oh Yeah! Ratliff is back. What was I thinking? We will be fine................... NOT! Rolling Eyes



So are you saying Carr n Clairborne were not good pickups ???


Yup, it sure does suck having the #1 pass defense in the league..

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2012&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=PASSING_NET_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1


Does it really matter if the team still gives up 22 PPG??? .4 PPG MORE than last year's team.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&season=2012&seasonType=REG&role=OPP&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-p=1&conference=ALL&defensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&d-447263-s=TOTAL_POINTS_GAME_AVG
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The_Slamman wrote:
Matts4313 wrote:
PincheJimmy wrote:
Rtnldave wrote:
Don't know how to spin this one. Better judgement tells me we get trounced! No Oline, No running Game, WR can'y catch a cold, DB's have Z-E-R-O INT's (Nice investment there J.J.), QB is rverting back to desperation play.............................

Hmmmmmm, Oh Yeah! Ratliff is back. What was I thinking? We will be fine................... NOT! Rolling Eyes



So are you saying Carr n Clairborne were not good pickups ???


Yup, it sure does suck having the #1 pass defense in the league..

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2012&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=PASSING_NET_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1


Does it really matter if the team still gives up 22 PPG??? .4 PPG MORE than last year's team.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&season=2012&seasonType=REG&role=OPP&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-p=1&conference=ALL&defensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&d-447263-s=TOTAL_POINTS_GAME_AVG


Out of curiosity, is that counting the points that the offense gave up?
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flyingmonkey30 wrote:
Out of curiosity, is that counting the points that the offense gave up?


Why, yes it does!! But dont let silly facts cloud your judgement.
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flyingmonkey30 wrote:
Out of curiosity, is that counting the points that the offense gave up?


Why, yes it does!! But dont let silly facts cloud your judgement.


Yes, but so did last years PPG total. I hope nobody forgot about the Detroit game, Jets game, etc. Don't let those silly facts cloud your judgment either.
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flyingmonkey30 wrote:
Out of curiosity, is that counting the points that the offense gave up?


Why, yes it does!! But dont let silly facts cloud your judgement.


Ok, because I noticed that we have only given up 5 TDs all season. That doesn't really equate to 22 PPG, especially considering I doubt we give up that many FGs per game either.


That said, its still not okay to be giving up 22 PPG, no matter who is giving up the points. Cant be having that right now, or at any point in the season
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