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Badger75


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:37 am    Post subject: The George Halas Coaching Tree Reply with quote

Just before George Halas died in 1983 he brought in Mike Ditka to coach the Chicago Bears.

Halas had already brought in Buddy Ryan. Both of Buddy Ryan's sons are coaching.

Jeff Fisher the long time Titans coach is in St. Louis. The Old Bear was a DB on the Bears '85 SB team.

Jim Harbaugh the QB successor to Jim McMahon, is coaching the SF 49ers.

Leslie Frazier the coach of the Vikings was an Old Bear on the '85 SB team.

Mike Singeltary, the Vikings coach is a HoFer from that Bears '85 team.

Add Clark Shaughnessy and George Allen. Luckman even coached Bears WR's and QB's.

Zeke Bratkowski played 10 seasons for the Bears before becoming Bart Starr's backup. Bratkowski became an OC to several teams.

And the late, great Abe Gibron was an Old Bear, caught on NFL films singing Jeremiah Was a Bullfrog as the Broncos pummelled the Bears in Denver. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: The George Halas Coaching Tree Reply with quote

Badger75 wrote:
Just before George Halas died in 1983 he brought in Mike Ditka to coach the Chicago Bears.

Halas had already brought in Buddy Ryan. Both of Buddy Ryan's sons are coaching.

Jeff Fisher the long time Titans coach is in St. Louis. The Old Bear was a DB on the Bears '85 SB team.

Jim Harbaugh the QB successor to Jim McMahon, is coaching the SF 49ers.

Leslie Frazier the coach of the Vikings was an Old Bear on the '85 SB team.

Mike Singeltary, the Vikings coach is a HoFer from that Bears '85 team.

Add Clark Shaughnessy and George Allen. Luckman even coached Bears WR's and QB's.

Zeke Bratkowski played 10 seasons for the Bears before becoming Bart Starr's backup. Bratkowski became an OC to several teams.

And the late, great Abe Gibron was an Old Bear, caught on NFL films singing Jeremiah Was a Bullfrog as the Broncos pummelled the Bears in Denver. Wink
Halas' worst mistake was to not step down and turn the reins over to George Allen after the '63 Championship. Had he done so we would not have become a doormat for the next decade.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: The George Halas Coaching Tree Reply with quote

ChicagoAl wrote:
Badger75 wrote:
Just before George Halas died in 1983 he brought in Mike Ditka to coach the Chicago Bears.

Halas had already brought in Buddy Ryan. Both of Buddy Ryan's sons are coaching.

Jeff Fisher the long time Titans coach is in St. Louis. The Old Bear was a DB on the Bears '85 SB team.

Jim Harbaugh the QB successor to Jim McMahon, is coaching the SF 49ers.

Leslie Frazier the coach of the Vikings was an Old Bear on the '85 SB team.

Mike Singeltary, the Vikings coach is a HoFer from that Bears '85 team.

Add Clark Shaughnessy and George Allen. Luckman even coached Bears WR's and QB's.

Zeke Bratkowski played 10 seasons for the Bears before becoming Bart Starr's backup. Bratkowski became an OC to several teams.

And the late, great Abe Gibron was an Old Bear, caught on NFL films singing Jeremiah Was a Bullfrog as the Broncos pummelled the Bears in Denver. Wink
Halas' worst mistake was to not step down and turn the reins over to George Allen after the '63 Championship. Had he done so we would not have become a doormat for the next decade.


Good point. There were such a tumultous set of events at that time, hard to know.

Like any self made man, Halas's temperament wasn't toward retirement.

He thought the Bears were another dynasty that could rival Lombardi. Also, a double tragedy occured in Summer of '64.

Clark Shaughnessy mysteriously retired in mid season 1962 and no one seems to know why. He went on to coach the U. of Hawaii. Personality clashes with Allen and others probably drove him out.

Allen coached the defense, but Shaughnessy had a knack for redesigning that too. Allen also had the draft which by '65 produced Sayers and Butkus.

The AFL wasn't going away and Halas was meeting with Lamar Hunt. Eventually, Pete Rozelle talked Jim Finks into going to Chicago to make the #2 market more competetive, against Halas's wishes.

And George Halas had a charming knack for giving the same impression to several people, including Sid Luckman, that should he sell the team, they had the inside track.

Interesting time.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: The George Halas Coaching Tree Reply with quote

Badger75 wrote:
ChicagoAl wrote:
Badger75 wrote:
Just before George Halas died in 1983 he brought in Mike Ditka to coach the Chicago Bears.

Halas had already brought in Buddy Ryan. Both of Buddy Ryan's sons are coaching.

Jeff Fisher the long time Titans coach is in St. Louis. The Old Bear was a DB on the Bears '85 SB team.

Jim Harbaugh the QB successor to Jim McMahon, is coaching the SF 49ers.

Leslie Frazier the coach of the Vikings was an Old Bear on the '85 SB team.

Mike Singeltary, the Vikings coach is a HoFer from that Bears '85 team.

Add Clark Shaughnessy and George Allen. Luckman even coached Bears WR's and QB's.

Zeke Bratkowski played 10 seasons for the Bears before becoming Bart Starr's backup. Bratkowski became an OC to several teams.

And the late, great Abe Gibron was an Old Bear, caught on NFL films singing Jeremiah Was a Bullfrog as the Broncos pummelled the Bears in Denver. Wink
Halas' worst mistake was to not step down and turn the reins over to George Allen after the '63 Championship. Had he done so we would not have become a doormat for the next decade.


Good point. There were such a tumultous set of events at that time, hard to know.

Like any self made man, Halas's temperament wasn't toward retirement.

He thought the Bears were another dynasty that could rival Lombardi. Also, a double tragedy occured in Summer of '64.

Clark Shaughnessy mysteriously retired in mid season 1962 and no one seems to know why. He went on to coach the U. of Hawaii. Personality clashes with Allen and others probably drove him out.

Allen coached the defense, but Shaughnessy had a knack for redesigning that too. Allen also had the draft which by '65 produced Sayers and Butkus.

The AFL wasn't going away and Halas was meeting with Lamar Hunt. Eventually, Pete Rozelle talked Jim Finks into going to Chicago to make the #2 market more competetive, against Halas's wishes.

And George Halas had a charming knack for giving the same impression to several people, including Sid Luckman, that should he sell the team, they had the inside track.

Interesting time.
Halas had retired before so it isn't like he couldn't have done it for the good of the team. Then he retired again after Allen had gone to the Rams and Dooley became the HC.

No doubt the death of Galimore hurt the team.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know what happened. George Allen and Clark Shaughnessy never got along. Both rather good at rearranging schemes. CS's sudden departure in '62 may have irritated Halas. He might have felt Allen was responsible.

The time for Halas to retire was '64 or '65. Allen got fed up and left. That set in motion a series of league wide changes.

And the AFL was improving. Halas tried to stop them, then shifted to bargaining with Lamar Hunt.

The changing of the guard in the league office in NY may not have been very respectful.
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