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X_Factor_40
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You have no idea what the other guy involved in the accident said or did so you have no idea if how Suh acted was justified or not. Hell, you don't even know HOW he acted.
It must be fun assuming things. |
I made no assumptions in that post.
Notice how I said the word "accusations", and last time I checked I wasn't the guy who wrote the articles that are all over the internet. Either way, the dude freaked out on another driver, was obviously involved in another car accident, the police were needed, and his name is in the news again for his poor behavior. Just because he didn't get a ticket doesn't mean there isn't an issue here. Stuff like this doesn't just happen at random.
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Nnivolcm
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| X_Factor_40 wrote: | | DetroitSpirit wrote: |
You have no idea what the other guy involved in the accident said or did so you have no idea if how Suh acted was justified or not. Hell, you don't even know HOW he acted.
It must be fun assuming things. |
I made no assumptions in that post.
Notice how I said the word "accusations", and last time I checked I wasn't the guy who wrote the articles that are all over the internet. Either way, the dude freaked out on another driver, was obviously involved in another car accident, the police were needed, and his name is in the news again for his poor behavior. Just because he didn't get a ticket doesn't mean there isn't an issue here. Stuff like this doesn't just happen at random. |
I feel like there are a few times in your statement where you're missing the world "allegedly."
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X_Factor_40
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| diehardlionfan wrote: | | X_Factor_40 wrote: | | Nnivolcm wrote: | | stylish313 wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | LionsFTW wrote: | | stylish313 wrote: | | skatebeanz wrote: | | Quote: | @davebirkett
Dearborn police say the traffic incident involving Lions DT Ndamukong Suh is closed, no tickets will be issued. |
Wow Suh was total fail there. Trade him!!!!
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What did you think would happen??? Doesn't change the fact that he's an arrogant arse and habitual trouble-maker. Yes, I'd trade him now while he still has some kind of value, and before he goes out and gets himself a multiple game suspension. |
Please God no. On a talent deprived team, we cannot trade one of our biggest talents. Hes got a rage problem. Not a bad characteristic for a DT to have. He's far from being one of the problems with the NFL, with all the drug issues, rape, murder, women beating, etc. |
Exactly. THis is a non issue IMO. People are also falsely accused of most of what you are mentioned too and later find out they were not guilty.
Accusations mean jack |
You sound like a parent protecting their bad arse child. That is exactly what is wrong with society nowadays, and Suh is exactly what's wrong with the Detroit Lions organization. |
While that's one thing that I believe is wrong with society, I also think society has a terrible tendency to judge people without hearing the full story.
It requires very little evidence to issue a traffic ticket, so the fact that one wasn't issued says to me that there is very little evidence other than he said she said. |
They couldn't determine fault, but he obviously wasn't a model citizen here. Accusations like this don't come out of nowhere, his attitude was extremely poor, and the cops had to be involved. Whether there was a ticket issued or not doesn't really make a difference to me. His behavior and actions either way were extremely poor and this behavior keeps repeating itself. |
I don't disagree however we have to be cautious about taking the other individuals word as gospel.
I may be wrong but given the time of day and Suh being very recognizable I would expect the twitter world would have lite up from witnesses. |
I agree, and I wasn't saying that everything he said was 100% fact as they are just accusations at this point, but people usually don't make up a car accident and get fake news articles written about them. My only point was that there is behavior here that is questionable and it appears to be an ongoing pattern. I would rather that he follow all traffic laws, behave, and keep his mouth shut. That's all.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Nnivolcm wrote: | | X_Factor_40 wrote: | | DetroitSpirit wrote: |
You have no idea what the other guy involved in the accident said or did so you have no idea if how Suh acted was justified or not. Hell, you don't even know HOW he acted.
It must be fun assuming things. |
I made no assumptions in that post.
Notice how I said the word "accusations", and last time I checked I wasn't the guy who wrote the articles that are all over the internet. Either way, the dude freaked out on another driver, was obviously involved in another car accident, the police were needed, and his name is in the news again for his poor behavior. Just because he didn't get a ticket doesn't mean there isn't an issue here. Stuff like this doesn't just happen at random. |
I feel like there are a few times in your statement where you're missing the world "allegedly." |
You get the point. My post was obviously based off the information that the articles have provided. Yes, it could be false and I'm sure there is a fair share of gray area involved, but regardless, something happened, and here we are again.
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DetroitSpirit
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| X_Factor_40 wrote: | | DetroitSpirit wrote: |
You have no idea what the other guy involved in the accident said or did so you have no idea if how Suh acted was justified or not. Hell, you don't even know HOW he acted.
It must be fun assuming things. |
I made no assumptions in that post.
Notice how I said the word "accusations", and last time I checked I wasn't the guy who wrote the articles that are all over the internet. Either way, the dude freaked out on another driver, was obviously involved in another car accident, the police were needed, and his name is in the news again for his poor behavior. Just because he didn't get a ticket doesn't mean there isn't an issue here. Stuff like this doesn't just happen at random. |
Because its unheard of for the media to make something out to be more than what it really was.
For all we know the guy is the one who instigated the behavior, his 'poor behavior' resulted in NOTHING. How poor could it have been? How many car accidents have you been in where you were just smiling afterwards, if you say anything more than one then I am concerned. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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If this accusation really causes this many problems for the Lions in all of your eyes, I'll be right back in a few minutes, because I think I hear Aaron Rodgers, Jared Allen, Jay Cutler, and Jim Harbaugh all peeing in my gas tank outside.
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DetroitSpirit
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Nnivolcm wrote: | | If this accusation really causes this many problems for the Lions in all of your eyes, I'll be right back in a few minutes, because I think I hear Aaron Rodgers, Jared Allen, Jay Cutler, and Jim Harbaugh all peeing in my gas tank outside. |
To the gallows with them! |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Nnivolcm wrote: | | If this accusation really causes this many problems for the Lions in all of your eyes, I'll be right back in a few minutes, because I think I hear Aaron Rodgers, Jared Allen, Jay Cutler, and Jim Harbaugh all peeing in my gas tank outside. |
One incident never proves anything. But Suh has shown a pattern of behavior that would lead one to believe that he's a walking time bomb. Or at least a bully, to say the least.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| stylish313 wrote: | | Nnivolcm wrote: | | If this accusation really causes this many problems for the Lions in all of your eyes, I'll be right back in a few minutes, because I think I hear Aaron Rodgers, Jared Allen, Jay Cutler, and Jim Harbaugh all peeing in my gas tank outside. |
One incident never proves anything. But Suh has shown a pattern of behavior that would lead one to believe that he's a walking time bomb. Or at least a bully, to say the least. |
That's your opinion, one which I fully understand. My only issue is, and had always been, that people are much to quick to make judgements based on accusations.
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DetroitSpirit
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Damn't now he's mastered white collared crimes too? Let's cut him. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| stylish313 wrote: | | detfan782004 wrote: | | LionsFTW wrote: | | stylish313 wrote: | | skatebeanz wrote: | | Quote: | @davebirkett
Dearborn police say the traffic incident involving Lions DT Ndamukong Suh is closed, no tickets will be issued. |
Wow Suh was total fail there. Trade him!!!!
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What did you think would happen??? Doesn't change the fact that he's an arrogant arse and habitual trouble-maker. Yes, I'd trade him now while he still has some kind of value, and before he goes out and gets himself a multiple game suspension. |
Please God no. On a talent deprived team, we cannot trade one of our biggest talents. Hes got a rage problem. Not a bad characteristic for a DT to have. He's far from being one of the problems with the NFL, with all the drug issues, rape, murder, women beating, etc. |
Exactly. THis is a non issue IMO. People are also falsely accused of most of what you are mentioned too and later find out they were not guilty.
Accusations mean jack |
You sound like a parent protecting their bad arse child. That is exactly what is wrong with society nowadays, and Suh is exactly what's wrong with the Detroit Lions organization. |
I would ABSOLUTELY defend my child on accusation alone. ANY GOOD parent would. Accusations mean jack. It is sad my kids have to grow up in this modern day society already. So sick and tired of all this bogus crap. Until he is charged, in jail, ticket etc he is INNOCENT!
This is something that belongs on the OMG page.
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ONce again we dont know the whole story. The only iron clad thing would be the deposit law and that is really dumb on their part.
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| detfan782004 wrote: |
ONce again we dont know the whole story. The only iron clad thing would be the deposit law and that is really dumb on their part. |
That's why the word accused was used.
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