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steelcurtain29
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| Notmyfault wrote: | | Is 0.2 even that drunk? He probably was on some drug as well. |
Very drunk. That's 2.5 times the "legal limit"... If you can withstand .2; you need to be sent to a rehab center.
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fretgod99
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| JDLefebvre wrote: | | eaglesfan10 wrote: | | Notmyfault wrote: | | Is 0.2 even that drunk? He probably was on some drug as well. |
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lol... yes. 0.08 is the legal limit. 0.05 is considered to be impaired and your vision and depth perception can be affected.
So yes... 0.2 is very very drunk! |
Just a general FYI -
A standard shot of 80 proof liquor is ~ 1.5 ounces.
A 350 pound man drinking shots over a two hour period would have a BAC of ~.20 after having 18 shots. The same guy would have a BAC of ~.198 after having 20 beers in the same time period.
That's a lot of alcohol.
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JDLefebvre
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Got a text that Ta'amu has been suspended 2 weeks without pay and banned from the facility. Obviously an in-house suspension. Sure more will come down from the league.
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Fender
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I would ban him from the league for at least a year. And any subsequent incident would be a lifetime ban.
This is a joke... squandering his rare and incredible opportunity. He deserves to be washing dishes or digging ditches with the rest of the population that share his mental aptitude and decision making. |
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The LBC
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| JDLefebvre wrote: | | Got a text that Ta'amu has been suspended 2 weeks without pay and banned from the facility. Obviously an in-house suspension. Sure more will come down from the league. |
And this is where I've always had a ton of respect for the Steelers organization - it's a model more teams should follow (and yes, I realize it's easier when the player in question was a consistent healthy-scratch on gameday, but IINM they did the same sort of in-house suspension with Holmes in the past and I believe at least once before in the past decade or so).
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JDLefebvre
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| The LBC wrote: | | JDLefebvre wrote: | | Got a text that Ta'amu has been suspended 2 weeks without pay and banned from the facility. Obviously an in-house suspension. Sure more will come down from the league. |
And this is where I've always had a ton of respect for the Steelers organization - it's a model more teams should follow (and yes, I realize it's easier when the player in question was a consistent healthy-scratch on gameday, but IINM they did the same sort of in-house suspension with Holmes in the past and I believe at least once before in the past decade or so). |
They did.
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RuskieTitan
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| JDLefebvre wrote: | | Got a text that Ta'amu has been suspended 2 weeks without pay and banned from the facility. Obviously an in-house suspension. Sure more will come down from the league. |
Glad the Steelers manned up and did the right thing. A good step in the right direction.
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The LBC
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| JDLefebvre wrote: | | The LBC wrote: | | JDLefebvre wrote: | | Got a text that Ta'amu has been suspended 2 weeks without pay and banned from the facility. Obviously an in-house suspension. Sure more will come down from the league. |
And this is where I've always had a ton of respect for the Steelers organization - it's a model more teams should follow (and yes, I realize it's easier when the player in question was a consistent healthy-scratch on gameday, but IINM they did the same sort of in-house suspension with Holmes in the past and I believe at least once before in the past decade or so). |
They did. |
Yup. There are a lot of owners (not just in football but in professional sports) that could due to take a lesson at the knee of Art Rooney - and to a notably lesser, but still somewhat similar case Robert Kraft. I've had to live through putting up with two of the worst kind of owners in my football fanhood (the strip-mining, self-serving Georgia Frontieri and the laissez-faire, I'm-cool-as-long-as-I'm-turning-a-profit Spanos family who is completely disconnected from the community its franchise is based in); my pregnant wife might have objections, but the diehard fan in me would be willing to give up my firstborn child to have my team owned by a family the like of the Rooneys.
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7DnBrnc53
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| The LBC wrote: | | JDLefebvre wrote: | | The LBC wrote: | | JDLefebvre wrote: | | Got a text that Ta'amu has been suspended 2 weeks without pay and banned from the facility. Obviously an in-house suspension. Sure more will come down from the league. |
And this is where I've always had a ton of respect for the Steelers organization - it's a model more teams should follow (and yes, I realize it's easier when the player in question was a consistent healthy-scratch on gameday, but IINM they did the same sort of in-house suspension with Holmes in the past and I believe at least once before in the past decade or so). |
They did. |
Yup. There are a lot of owners (not just in football but in professional sports) that could due to take a lesson at the knee of Art Rooney - and to a notably lesser, but still somewhat similar case Robert Kraft. I've had to live through putting up with two of the worst kind of owners in my football fanhood (the strip-mining, self-serving Georgia Frontieri and the laissez-faire, I'm-cool-as-long-as-I'm-turning-a-profit Spanos family who is completely disconnected from the community its franchise is based in); my pregnant wife might have objections, but the diehard fan in me would be willing to give up my firstborn child to have my team owned by a family the like of the Rooneys. |
I won't go along with you on Kraft. I don't trust him. I think he is behind Spygate, and he helped Bill with it.
However, I am down with you on the Rooneys. |
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JaguarCrazy2832
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Damn, i wonder how the Rooneys will see this
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| BlaqOptic wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: | | 49ersfan wrote: | | steelcurtain29 wrote: | I thought this thread was about Ta'amu and not the Steelers organization? 
My gosh. Can this draft get any worse for us now? Only thing that came of it was Chris Rainey; and he hasn't done much... |
Wait, whats so bad about the draft? I haven't paid attention to it since May or so but i remember everyone praising the Steelers draft, giving them A+ grades, etc..have the players really been that bad? |
Aside from DeCastro, Steelers came away with a lot of big name guys overrated by the media. Some had work ethic question marks(Adams) and some were major question marks on where they fit into the scheme(Ta'amu and Spence).
I thought a lot of people were overrating their class after the draft. |
DeCastro us already our best run blocker. Spence looked amazing before going down. Rainey is already getting snaps. The only real question marks of our first 5 picks are Ta'Amu who will surely be cut and Adams who can seemingly only run block... |
Not to derail thread but DeCastro was not clearly our best run blocker. He didn't pop and drive his guy off the ball and his technique isn't as sound as was hyped up to be.
Ta'Amu will likely face a fine, jail, and maybe community programs. He will definetely be giving some form of class/lecture on his behavior to some youth programs.
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Broncos_OTM
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| JDLefebvre wrote: | | cattleman78 wrote: | | Stallworth was a member of the Browns when he did this. N.F.L. suspended him one year and Browns let him go. Stallworth did cooperate with the police though. |
I understand that....
Cooperated with police vs Didn't cooperate with police
Killed a man vs Didn't kill a man.
Which should bring more punishment?
I am definitely not in any way defending Ta'amu... just the likely punishment. |
the pedestrian was at fault, brought in stallworths defense. That was key, i cant overstate that enough. Aggravated assault, is 8 years in colorado.failingto comply with law enforcement pisses judges off. Yes i could very well see years in this case. |
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WhackyPlague
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Notmyfault wrote: | | Is 0.2 even that drunk? He probably was on some drug as well. |
Yup. Most people are obviously impaired at the legal limit of 0.08. |
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fretgod99
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| Broncos_OTM wrote: | | JDLefebvre wrote: | | cattleman78 wrote: | | Stallworth was a member of the Browns when he did this. N.F.L. suspended him one year and Browns let him go. Stallworth did cooperate with the police though. |
I understand that....
Cooperated with police vs Didn't cooperate with police
Killed a man vs Didn't kill a man.
Which should bring more punishment?
I am definitely not in any way defending Ta'amu... just the likely punishment. |
the pedestrian was at fault, brought in stallworths defense. That was key, i cant overstate that enough. Aggravated assault, is 8 years in colorado.failingto comply with law enforcement pisses judges off. Yes i could very well see years in this case. |
Also, as way of explanation, Stallworth's sentencing would have been part of a plea deal. The plea deal would have been made because the prosecution knew that there was a definite crack in their case (the pedestrian being outside of an area where a pedestrian is allowed to cross a street). Stallworth pleads guilty/no contest in return for a joint sentencing recommendation - State gets a high level conviction and Stallworth gets a minimal sentence. Because of circumstance, the cases really aren't analogous.
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JDLefebvre
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:51 am Post subject: |
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^^^
You guys are right, you can't really compare the two. My bad... I wasn't aware how severe punishments would be for resisting arrest (or charges along those lines)... I was looking at it mainly on the DUI side because I figured that would be where the most severe charges would stem from. I was wrong.
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