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We aren't a SB team and we never were. But Bevell did (finally) adjust later on in the game. Apparently it was Tom Cable who spoke to the team and got them to play properly in the second half as well.


Who's a superbowl team in the league?
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Boom! wrote:
Tooki wrote:

We aren't a SB team and we never were. But Bevell did (finally) adjust later on in the game. Apparently it was Tom Cable who spoke to the team and got them to play properly in the second half as well.


Who's a superbowl team in the league?


I think that Russell Wilson will need a year or two (assuming he is our future guy) and our D needs to develop a consistent pass rush before we talk about a SB. With that said, we aren't far away from it and we can definitely compete right now.

I think that the:

*Packers
*Texans
*Bears (Their D)
*9ers
*Broncos (because of Peyton)
*Patriots

are all potential SB teams right now. Our team is still noticeably weaker on the road, and our pass rush disappears. I also believe that we are a tier below those teams (except for the Broncos. QB's win you a SB and Peyton is looking great this year)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tooki wrote:
Boom! wrote:
Tooki wrote:

We aren't a SB team and we never were. But Bevell did (finally) adjust later on in the game. Apparently it was Tom Cable who spoke to the team and got them to play properly in the second half as well.


Who's a superbowl team in the league?


I think that Russell Wilson will need a year or two (assuming he is our future guy) and our D needs to develop a consistent pass rush before we talk about a SB. With that said, we aren't far away from it and we can definitely compete right now.

I think that the:

*Packers
*Texans
*Bears (Their D)
*9ers
*Broncos (because of Peyton)
*Patriots

are all potential SB teams right now. Our team is still noticeably weaker on the road, and our pass rush disappears. I also believe that we are a tier below those teams (except for the Broncos. QB's win you a SB and Peyton is looking great this year)


next year is our year, basically all of our

Edit: just looked so after 2014 everyone will be a FA I thought it was after the 2013 year but we got 2! then all our Earl Kam
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Tooki wrote:
Boom! wrote:
Tooki wrote:

We aren't a SB team and we never were. But Bevell did (finally) adjust later on in the game. Apparently it was Tom Cable who spoke to the team and got them to play properly in the second half as well.


Who's a superbowl team in the league?


I think that Russell Wilson will need a year or two (assuming he is our future guy) and our D needs to develop a consistent pass rush before we talk about a SB. With that said, we aren't far away from it and we can definitely compete right now.

I think that the:

*Packers
*Texans
*Bears (Their D)
*9ers
*Broncos (because of Peyton)
*Patriots

are all potential SB teams right now. Our team is still noticeably weaker on the road, and our pass rush disappears. I also believe that we are a tier below those teams (except for the Broncos. QB's win you a SB and Peyton is looking great this year)


Our team matches up well with each of those teams. Our defense is so good that no matter what, we will always be in the game till the end if we're behind. We beat the Packers. Aaron Rodgers has thrown what, 25+ touchdowns already? Absolutely none against us. We match up well with the Texans. Would be damn near identical to a 49ers/Seahawks game. The Bears defense is a turnover specialist this year. But, Pete's main priority has been ball control and winning the turnover battle. RW also makes smart decisions as a rookie QB. They would have to catch us on a bad day to really do anything special to us. (I do believe though that the Bears game is probably the only other game we could lose all season.)

We would have already beaten the 9ers this year if it wasn't for costly drops. We can compete AND beat the 9ers. The Broncos I don't think would be a problem for us. We've shut down Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, Newton, have 2 of Tom Brady's 3 INT's all year, and even gave Stafford some fits. Peyton Manning would do no better than Brady did and I don't even think he'd do that. (I believe Peyton is the greatest QB of all time as well.) Patriots gave us everything they had a we beat them.

You listed no teams that I see would dominate us or make us look a level down. We're on the same level as any Superbowl team in the league right now.

If we don't win the division, we probably get the 6th seed. And if we do watch out. We'd be a team no one would want to face in the Playoffs. Plus, the last two superbowl winning teams have been the 6th seed.

BTW: By the time the playoffs roll around, Russell won't be playing like a rookie. He's improvement speed is stunning.
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Overly optimistic, you are.
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Boom! wrote:
Our team matches up well with each of those teams. Our defense is so good that no matter what, we will always be in the game till the end if we're behind. We beat the Packers. Aaron Rodgers has thrown what, 25+ touchdowns already? Absolutely none against us. We match up well with the Texans. Would be damn near identical to a 49ers/Seahawks game. The Bears defense is a turnover specialist this year. But, Pete's main priority has been ball control and winning the turnover battle. RW also makes smart decisions as a rookie QB. They would have to catch us on a bad day to really do anything special to us. (I do believe though that the Bears game is probably the only other game we could lose all season.)

We would have already beaten the 9ers this year if it wasn't for costly drops. We can compete AND beat the 9ers. The Broncos I don't think would be a problem for us. We've shut down Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, Newton, have 2 of Tom Brady's 3 INT's all year, and even gave Stafford some fits. Peyton Manning would do no better than Brady did and I don't even think he'd do that. (I believe Peyton is the greatest QB of all time as well.) Patriots gave us everything they had a we beat them.

You listed no teams that I see would dominate us or make us look a level down. We're on the same level as any Superbowl team in the league right now.

If we don't win the division, we probably get the 6th seed. And if we do watch out. We'd be a team no one would want to face in the Playoffs. Plus, the last two superbowl winning teams have been the 6th seed.

BTW: By the time the playoffs roll around, Russell won't be playing like a rookie. He's improvement speed is stunning.


We beat the Packers and Pats at home, I doubt that we come away with either game on the road. The only convincing game that we have played on the road is against the Panthers. We played undisciplined football against the Lions and the D played dreadfully. Just look at Russell Wilson's stats on the road and at home if you want numbers to back that up.

I also feel that Lovie Smith and Wade Phillips will get their D ready just like Rex Ryan did this week. Both Jay Cutler and Matt Schaub are far better than Mark Sanchez and would be able to put points up against our D. Rex got the Jets D ready to play, and it is far less talented than the Bears and Texans.

I never said that any of those teams would dominate us. But I believe that they are ready to win a SB and are better than us right now. The 9ers, Bears and Texans play much more disciplined football on defense than we do. Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning have been to the SB and have won there. We can't get a consistent pass rush happening with 4 rushers, and as impressive as Russell Wilson has been, I doubt that he can keep up with those vets in a SB situation this year.

I can definitely see us making the playoffs, but at the same time I don't think that our defense is disciplined enough to take us all the way. Russell Wilson can improve all he wants, but our D isn't the 2005 Steelers. It can't carry Russell like it carried Big Ben.

I agree with SoS, you are overly optimistic.
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Dools=hawks wrote:
next year is our year, basically all of our

Edit: just looked so after 2014 everyone will be a FA I thought it was after the 2013 year but we got 2! then all our Earl Kam


I agree. We should be able to lock up most of our guys by then. Brandon Browner will probably be gone, and we keep Earl and Kam.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bears
@Saints
@Rams
Dolphins
@Patriots
@Seahawks
Cardinals

The niners remaining schedule. We need them to drop at least 3 of these games.

Seahawks need to win at least 4 of their last 6 to guarantee the playoffs.
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I don't believe for one second that Seattle makes it out of their first playoff game.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

imani wrote:
Bears
@Saints
@Rams
Dolphins
@Patriots
@Seahawks
Cardinals

The niners remaining schedule. We need them to drop at least 3 of these games.

Seahawks need to win at least 4 of their last 6 to guarantee the playoffs.


I see them loosing to the Saints, Patriots and us.. They will beat the Bears, Dolphins and Cardinals at home. The Rams game could go either way I think..
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JJ89 wrote:
imani wrote:
Bears
@Saints
@Rams
Dolphins
@Patriots
@Seahawks
Cardinals

The niners remaining schedule. We need them to drop at least 3 of these games.

Seahawks need to win at least 4 of their last 6 to guarantee the playoffs.


I see them loosing to the Saints, Patriots and us.. They will beat the Bears, Dolphins and Cardinals at home. The Rams game could go either way I think..


if they dont get alex smith back from the concussion, i see no way that they beat chicago
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I don't believe for one second that Seattle makes it out of their first playoff game.

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Quick question:

Can you guys list your top 5 offensive and defensive players for the Hawks this year? No explanation needed... Thx a ton!

-Chao
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UFgators wrote:
Quick question:

Can you guys list your top 5 offensive and defensive players for the Hawks this year? No explanation needed... Thx a ton!

-Chao


This year?

Marshawn Lynch
Max Unger
Golden Tate
Sidney Rice
Russell WIlson

HM: Okung, Zach MIller

Richard SHerman
Brandon Mebane
Chris Clemons
Brandon Browner
Earl Thomas

HM: Kam Chancellor, Bruce Irvin, Bobby Wagner
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imani wrote:
if they dont get alex smith back from the concussion, i see no way that they beat chicago

If Chicago doesn't get Jay Cutler back from the concussion, I don't see them beating San Francisco on the road, because with two weak passers and two strong defenses, you look at the running game and the 49ers' is clearly superior.
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Tooki wrote:
I can definitely see us making the playoffs, but at the same time I don't think that our defense is disciplined enough to take us all the way. Russell Wilson can improve all he wants, but our D isn't the 2005 Steelers. It can't carry Russell like it carried Big Ben.


The Steelers gave up 258 points that year, or 16.125 per game, with a DVOA of -13.5% at Football Outsiders. Seattle is currently at 16.1 points and, with a noticeably harder schedule, a -22.8% DVOA. Defenses were also better in 2005, which makes Seattle's low points allowed even more impressive. Considering they have some bad offenses coming up in Miami, Chicago, Arizona and St. Louis, I expect that average to drop even further.

Pittsburgh's defense might have carried Roethlisberger in the Super Bowl, but he was very good in the rest of the playoffs and the regular season.
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imani wrote:
UFgators wrote:
Quick question:

Can you guys list your top 5 offensive and defensive players for the Hawks this year? No explanation needed... Thx a ton!

-Chao


This year?

Marshawn Lynch
Max Unger
Golden Tate
Sidney Rice
Russell WIlson

HM: Okung, Zach MIller

Richard SHerman
Brandon Mebane
Chris Clemons
Brandon Browner
Earl Thomas

HM: Kam Chancellor, Bruce Irvin, Bobby Wagner
And that's how you know our defense is so good. When Kam and Wagner don't even make up the top 5, you have great players on your D.
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