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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlaqOptic wrote:
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surprising most Steeler fans are bitching about this fine. this is some real pansy crap....


Please don't speak on matters unless you actually know what happened... Rolling Eyes


LOL! yeah you said Ben was hurt so Sanders took the fall for him. he faked an injury Laughing take the damn timeout instead of resorting to pansy tactics
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acgott wrote:
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Also, Victor Cruz got nailed.

I hate the Giants, but seriously. He got destroyed. No way you fine him.


For faking a concussion in this day and age? I think you certainly do. Getting hit in the ribs doesn't knock one out and cause their arms to remain still as if knocked out.

You want Cruz to be fined for having the wind knocked out of him?


No I want Cruz fined for pretending to be concussed. When you get the wind knocked out of you you grab for your stomach. You perhaps roll around. You writhe in pain. Cruz did none of that. Rather he pretended to be concussed by failing to move, having his arms jutt out like people do when they're concussed and rolling his eyes back.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troy Brown wrote:
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This is a result of the NFL's absolutely moronic rules in the first place...

Peko - or whomever it was that was hitting Ben - continued to hit him while he was down resulting in Ben CLEARLY being in pain. However, Ben could not leave the field otherwise it would have cost the team a timeout and/or Ben for a play on a crucial 3rd down on the next play. So he told Sanders to go down so that he - the 3rd receiver - would have to leave as opposed to the star quarterback...

Next play Ben converts a 3rd down and the Steelers drive to win. So you know what I have to say to Goodell? He can Andrew Luck himself. How about that?


I don't get it. Because Ben got hit and was hurt, you think it's justifiable for him to tell another player to pretend to be hurt so he doesn't have to go off the field?


So you're telling me if Tom Brady was hurt but did not want to miss a key 3rd down in a 1-score game you wouldn't be upset if he told whomever your 3rd receiver is to go out so he could stay in?

Again, if Cruz is fined I have ABSOLUTELY no issue with this. However, it just seems way too coincidental that the Pittsburgh Steelers have been the first organization fined for 4 of Goodell's new policy violations.


I wouldn't have an issue with it but I also wouldn't complain about the entirely justifiable fine, either.


Again, my issue isn't the fine so much as the Steelers happen to be the first team subject to a fine for a "rule" in the Goodell era.

Moreso I feel that the rule a player has to come out if injured unless the take a timeout is a little ridiculous. I understand it's to prevent cheap tactics used in the 50s and 60s but all it does is spawn... this cheap tactic... Problem solved? I think not.
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I would cut off my legs if Rodgers threw 20 interceptions.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Keleth wrote:
BlaqOptic wrote:
This is a result of the NFL's absolutely moronic rules in the first place...

Peko - or whomever it was that was hitting Ben - continued to hit him while he was down resulting in Ben CLEARLY being in pain. However, Ben could not leave the field otherwise it would have cost the team a timeout and/or Ben for a play on a crucial 3rd down on the next play. So he told Sanders to go down so that he - the 3rd receiver - would have to leave as opposed to the star quarterback...


So you admit it was more the fact Ben would have been missing for a play if they didn't want to waste a TO.
Funnily enough I wouldn't say calling a TO to treat your injured star QB is actually a waste of a TO.
Or do you think they should have stopped the game until Ben was ok again ?
What would you actually have liked to have happened in this situation ?


Exactly what did happen is 100% fine with me. Had the Bengals did it I wouldn't have had a problem with it. This isn't two Giants simultaneously going down because the defense couldn't hang. It was a player was actually injured but did not want to come out on a crucial play so a less significant player went out. I don't mind that it was fined. I'm more worried that this is yet another example of the Steelers being the first team fined under the Goodell era.


You still haven't said what should be done in this sort of situation,you refer to the "NFL's absolutely moronic rules" yet don't give an alternative to this.


Allow a player to remain in the game unless it is a head injury without forcing a team to take a timeout unless it is within the final 6 minutes of a half in a one score game. Simple enough really.
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Ketchup on 7/24/14 wrote:
I would cut off my legs if Rodgers threw 20 interceptions.



Trust in the 4Bs: Ben, Bell, Blount and Brown!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keleth wrote:
FourThreeMafia wrote:
ChiefsFtw wrote:
surprising most Steeler fans are bitching about this fine. this is some real pansy crap....


Nihc wrote:
Why are Steelers fans making a big deal out of the fine? It's not your money and there wasn't a penalty called for it. Pretty clearly a faked injury.


Comments like these are just ridiculous

You guys do realize there are only TWO Steeler fans in this entire thread complaining about the fine, right? So Im not sure why youre asking why "Steeler fans" are making a big deal out of it. Most Steeler fans Ive heard from dont have a huge issue with it. Obviously there are some fans that are complaining, but there would be some from EVERY fanbase in this situation.


Because unfortunately those 2 fans always seem to shout the longest on loudest about the NFL persecution of the Steelers.
1 of them and you can probably guess which 1 will complain about the NFL and Goodell in particular whenever the opportunity arises,often attributing anything to Goodell even though Goodell has nothing to do with it.
Unfortunately that has led to these 2 fans being synonymous with all Steelers fans opinions.Although this is most times not the case that is how it appears to other fans on this forum.
As the saying goes there is always 1 and unfortunately in this case that is definitely true.


The irony here is this is the first time I've talked positively about any Steelers player not named Ben Roethlisberger on any forum other than the Steelers forum this football season...
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I would cut off my legs if Rodgers threw 20 interceptions.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome fine! So tired of these chicken acts. Sorry you wasted your timeouts elsewhere. This type of acting needs to end. Glad NFL is stepping up to the plate. NBA already started accounting for flopping and that is all this is is flopping 101.

If he was TRULY hurt he would not have been out next play like that.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

50,000 for an extra time out! That is not a bad price to pay at all.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlaqOptic wrote:
Keleth wrote:
BlaqOptic wrote:
Keleth wrote:
BlaqOptic wrote:
This is a result of the NFL's absolutely moronic rules in the first place...

Peko - or whomever it was that was hitting Ben - continued to hit him while he was down resulting in Ben CLEARLY being in pain. However, Ben could not leave the field otherwise it would have cost the team a timeout and/or Ben for a play on a crucial 3rd down on the next play. So he told Sanders to go down so that he - the 3rd receiver - would have to leave as opposed to the star quarterback...


So you admit it was more the fact Ben would have been missing for a play if they didn't want to waste a TO.
Funnily enough I wouldn't say calling a TO to treat your injured star QB is actually a waste of a TO.
Or do you think they should have stopped the game until Ben was ok again ?
What would you actually have liked to have happened in this situation ?


Exactly what did happen is 100% fine with me. Had the Bengals did it I wouldn't have had a problem with it. This isn't two Giants simultaneously going down because the defense couldn't hang. It was a player was actually injured but did not want to come out on a crucial play so a less significant player went out. I don't mind that it was fined. I'm more worried that this is yet another example of the Steelers being the first team fined under the Goodell era.


You still haven't said what should be done in this sort of situation,you refer to the "NFL's absolutely moronic rules" yet don't give an alternative to this.


Allow a player to remain in the game unless it is a head injury without forcing a team to take a timeout unless it is within the final 6 minutes of a half in a one score game. Simple enough really.


In an age where player safety is supposed to be the no1 concern of the NFL do you honestly expect them to do this.
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Keleth wrote:
BlaqOptic wrote:
Keleth wrote:
BlaqOptic wrote:
Keleth wrote:
BlaqOptic wrote:
This is a result of the NFL's absolutely moronic rules in the first place...

Peko - or whomever it was that was hitting Ben - continued to hit him while he was down resulting in Ben CLEARLY being in pain. However, Ben could not leave the field otherwise it would have cost the team a timeout and/or Ben for a play on a crucial 3rd down on the next play. So he told Sanders to go down so that he - the 3rd receiver - would have to leave as opposed to the star quarterback...


So you admit it was more the fact Ben would have been missing for a play if they didn't want to waste a TO.
Funnily enough I wouldn't say calling a TO to treat your injured star QB is actually a waste of a TO.
Or do you think they should have stopped the game until Ben was ok again ?
What would you actually have liked to have happened in this situation ?


Exactly what did happen is 100% fine with me. Had the Bengals did it I wouldn't have had a problem with it. This isn't two Giants simultaneously going down because the defense couldn't hang. It was a player was actually injured but did not want to come out on a crucial play so a less significant player went out. I don't mind that it was fined. I'm more worried that this is yet another example of the Steelers being the first team fined under the Goodell era.


You still haven't said what should be done in this sort of situation,you refer to the "NFL's absolutely moronic rules" yet don't give an alternative to this.


Allow a player to remain in the game unless it is a head injury without forcing a team to take a timeout unless it is within the final 6 minutes of a half in a one score game. Simple enough really.


In an age where player safety is supposed to be the no1 concern of the NFL do you honestly expect them to do this.


The problem is player safety is SUPPOSED to be the number one concern but isn't. I'm all for player safety. I'm just not for Goodell acting like player safety is tantamount for him. If it were there were plenty of things he could implement but doesn't. But that's neither here nor there.
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I would cut off my legs if Rodgers threw 20 interceptions.



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atown703 wrote:
He's an idiot for doing it.. I have no remorse for liars and cheaters
I don't think that word means what you think it means...
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rise wrote:
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He's an idiot for doing it.. I have no remorse for liars and cheaters
I don't think that word means what you think it means...


Don't be rediculous. Homies gettin PAYED! He should of no remorse for him!
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BlaqOptic wrote:
Troy Brown wrote:
BlaqOptic wrote:
Troy Brown wrote:
BlaqOptic wrote:
This is a result of the NFL's absolutely moronic rules in the first place...

Peko - or whomever it was that was hitting Ben - continued to hit him while he was down resulting in Ben CLEARLY being in pain. However, Ben could not leave the field otherwise it would have cost the team a timeout and/or Ben for a play on a crucial 3rd down on the next play. So he told Sanders to go down so that he - the 3rd receiver - would have to leave as opposed to the star quarterback...

Next play Ben converts a 3rd down and the Steelers drive to win. So you know what I have to say to Goodell? He can Andrew Luck himself. How about that?


I don't get it. Because Ben got hit and was hurt, you think it's justifiable for him to tell another player to pretend to be hurt so he doesn't have to go off the field?


So you're telling me if Tom Brady was hurt but did not want to miss a key 3rd down in a 1-score game you wouldn't be upset if he told whomever your 3rd receiver is to go out so he could stay in?

Again, if Cruz is fined I have ABSOLUTELY no issue with this. However, it just seems way too coincidental that the Pittsburgh Steelers have been the first organization fined for 4 of Goodell's new policy violations.


I wouldn't have an issue with it but I also wouldn't complain about the entirely justifiable fine, either.


Again, my issue isn't the fine so much as the Steelers happen to be the first team subject to a fine for a "rule" in the Goodell era.

Moreso I feel that the rule a player has to come out if injured unless the take a timeout is a little ridiculous. I understand it's to prevent cheap tactics used in the 50s and 60s but all it does is spawn... this cheap tactic... Problem solved? I think not.


The way to solve the problem is to do it this way. Penalize players for faking injuries. Problem solved.

To not force players to sit out a play for getting injured make it much easier to fake injuries to create an unlimited supply of timeouts.
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surprising most Steeler fans are bitching about this fine. this is some real pansy crap....


ChiefsFTW, posting like this isn't going to fly around here.

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He's an idiot for doing it.. I have no remorse for liars and cheaters



LMAO.... I'm sure he's the first player to ever do such a thing. Rolling Eyes

Of course! Silly me, thinking that this fine was justified. He wasn't the first to do it, so that makes it totally okay. Thanks for clearing that up.


My comment was directed to the personal insults toward Sander's as that is what I quoted. Silly me for thinking that was obvious.


You're really not making any sense. Confused You can't dislike someone for doing something because others have done it? What type of sense does that make?
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I have no issues with this fine assuming it is not the only fine of its kind this year. If this is a one time fine and it never comes up again I will probably think it is absurd.

As for what Sanders did I have no issues with it. It is a smart football play. Give your QB a few more moments to recover and not have to waste a valuable time out or get a delay of game.
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