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GeneralDissaray
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| Sure sounds like Jimmy has some sour grapes. I thought he was over all this stuff, and "he was just tired of being the bad guy'. Sure not tired of doing the media circuit and ripping Jerry. |
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mco65
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Much ado about nothing.
I like Jimmy, I mean what Cowboy fan doesn't? When you see stuff like this you have to know the source. This is not a DIG at Jerry and the Cowboys as much as it is a bit of advice aimed at Garrett... I don't think anyone wants Jason to succeed more than Jimmy.. however I think he would prefer he succeeded some place other than Dallas. The problem is, if Garrett doesn't succeed in Dallas, he may not get another chance to.. at least not at the Head Coaching level! |
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plan9misfit
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| mco65 wrote: | Much ado about nothing.
I like Jimmy, I mean what Cowboy fan doesn't? When you see stuff like this you have to know the source. This is not a DIG at Jerry and the Cowboys as much as it is a bit of advice aimed at Garrett... I don't think anyone wants Jason to succeed more than Jimmy.. however I think he would prefer he succeeded some place other than Dallas. The problem is, if Garrett doesn't succeed in Dallas, he may not get another chance to.. at least not at the Head Coaching level! |
Garrett's mismanagement of games has already proven that he isn't fit to be a head coach. He was thrust into that role well before he was ready.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| plan9misfit wrote: | | mco65 wrote: | Much ado about nothing.
I like Jimmy, I mean what Cowboy fan doesn't? When you see stuff like this you have to know the source. This is not a DIG at Jerry and the Cowboys as much as it is a bit of advice aimed at Garrett... I don't think anyone wants Jason to succeed more than Jimmy.. however I think he would prefer he succeeded some place other than Dallas. The problem is, if Garrett doesn't succeed in Dallas, he may not get another chance to.. at least not at the Head Coaching level! |
Garrett's mismanagement of games has already proven that he isn't fit to be a head coach. He was thrust into that role well before he was ready. |
I agree - it certainly appears to be "on the job training" - then again Ozzie is a pretty darn good GM (think we can agree on that) and he wanted Jason to be their HC a few years prior to us making him ours. Jerry knew he couldn't hold on to Jason much longer as an OC/AHC and when he let Wade go, it was really his only option if he wanted to keep Jason in Dallas.
Was there a better option?
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plan9misfit
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| MaddHatter wrote: | | plan9misfit wrote: | | mco65 wrote: | Much ado about nothing.
I like Jimmy, I mean what Cowboy fan doesn't? When you see stuff like this you have to know the source. This is not a DIG at Jerry and the Cowboys as much as it is a bit of advice aimed at Garrett... I don't think anyone wants Jason to succeed more than Jimmy.. however I think he would prefer he succeeded some place other than Dallas. The problem is, if Garrett doesn't succeed in Dallas, he may not get another chance to.. at least not at the Head Coaching level! |
Garrett's mismanagement of games has already proven that he isn't fit to be a head coach. He was thrust into that role well before he was ready. |
I agree - it certainly appears to be "on the job training" - then again Ozzie is a pretty darn good GM (think we can agree on that) and he wanted Jason to be their HC a few years prior to us making him ours. Jerry knew he couldn't hold on to Jason much longer as an OC/AHC and when he let Wade go, it was really his only option if he wanted to keep Jason in Dallas.
Was there a better option? |
Was there a better option? That's a hard question to answer. It's a damned good question, though. We know that Jim Harbaugh was looking to come to the NFL, but no one knows if he would've been interested. We also know that Jeff Fisher was mulling over the idea of coming to Dallas, as was Mike Holmgren due to their respective connections to Jerry, but what we don't know is how strong any of their levels of interest were. The bigger - and in my opinion, better - question to ask is, "did we guage the respective levels of interest of other potential candidates or simply anoint Garrett because he was already here?"
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mco65
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Jerry knew that Garret was going to be his HC the moment he hired him to be the OC.. it was just a matter of time..
I think Jerry wants Jason to succeed badly because he can say, see "i know what I am doing, I hired Jason Garrett... " |
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When Jerry said yesterday that he was pleased with the offensive line play after they gave up 7 sacks and that Doug Free played stellar in the second half... Jimmy words look quite prophetic.
The only thing I can really compare this idiocy to would be if Jerry's daughter went on a year long bender of heroin and meth, unprotected freakiness, STDs, and multiple abortions and then to have Jerry say I'm really pleased with her decision making over the past year.
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PincheJimmy
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Slamman wrote: | When Jerry said yesterday that he was pleased with the offensive line play after they gave up 7 sacks and that Doug Free played stellar in the second half... Jimmy words look quite prophetic.
The only thing I can really compare this idiocy to would be if Jerry's daughter went on a year long bender of heroin and meth, unprotected freakiness, STDs, and multiple abortions and then to have Jerry say I'm really pleased with her decision making over the past year. |
Come on Man, thats a bit of stretch dont you think??? But your right, Jerry should have kept his mouth shut but we all know he cant do that. Our recent drafts have gotten better and I would think going into the off season that the FO has to agree that the O Line should be our number 1 concern in the off season. Is there any stud O lineman that will be free agents after the season? hopefully get one there and add another 1 ( 1st or 2nd round) in the draft. I dont think its a good idea to grab 2 rookies and put them in the starting lineup |
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plan9misfit
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| The_Slamman wrote: | When Jerry said yesterday that he was pleased with the offensive line play after they gave up 7 sacks and that Doug Free played stellar in the second half... Jimmy words look quite prophetic.
The only thing I can really compare this idiocy to would be if Jerry's daughter went on a year long bender of heroin and meth, unprotected freakiness, STDs, and multiple abortions and then to have Jerry say I'm really pleased with her decision making over the past year. |
In other words, she'd move to Pahrump, NV for a year.
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plan9misfit
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| PincheJimmy wrote: | | Is there any stud O lineman that will be free agents after the season? hopefully get one there and add another 1 ( 1st or 2nd round) in the draft. I dont think its a good idea to grab 2 rookies and put them in the starting lineup |
OT Jake Long, Miami
OG Andy Levitre, Buffalo
Those are the only two really notable free agents whom I'm aware of. I'm not sure if either of them will even hit the market, but both would be worth considering.
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| The_Slamman wrote: | | It's like we are in a win now mentality with lose now personnel. |
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WizardHawk
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| plan9misfit wrote: | | PincheJimmy wrote: | | Is there any stud O lineman that will be free agents after the season? hopefully get one there and add another 1 ( 1st or 2nd round) in the draft. I dont think its a good idea to grab 2 rookies and put them in the starting lineup |
OT Jake Long, Miami
OG Andy Levitre, Buffalo
Those are the only two really notable free agents whom I'm aware of. I'm not sure if either of them will even hit the market, but both would be worth considering. |
Pretty sure Buffalo's other OG Urbik is a FA this year too. He'd be a solid option as well
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Matts4313
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Didnt he say this like ~2-3 weeks ago?
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A few points.
1. Unless Sean is ACTUALLY available, I don't think Redball is in danger of losing his job, nor do I believe Jimmy thinks that.
2. To piggy off point 2, this could be a motivational move from Jimmy. He has been known to do this from time to time.
3. This really should not surprise anyone. It was a culture Tuna has to break up and a culture that INSTANTLY came back with Wade. I think it's being broken up again, but not to the level it needs to be.
4. Jimmy really needs to be in the ROH.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | 4. Jimmy really needs to be in the ROH. |
Two chances that ever happens;
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