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tytalton
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| Quote: | | HAHA... yeah everyone against Suh has an "agenda"??? |
Let me write that down in this post for you so you don't look like a raving lunatic or anything...
I think that anyone against Suh has an agenda
because it's not like I can look at the video and think it is obvious his foot hits Schaubs hand |
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JDLefebvre
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| tytalton wrote: | | Quote: | | HAHA... yeah everyone against Suh has an "agenda"??? |
Let me write that down in this post for you so you don't look like a raving lunatic or anything...
I think that anyone against Suh has an agenda
because it's not like I can look at the video and think it is obvious his foot hits Schaubs hand |
Its a simple matter of opinion.... you're welcome to have the wrong one.
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tytalton
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Its a simple matter of opinion.... you're welcome to have the wrong one |
Back at cha man 
I don't think we'll be changing each other's minds any time soon eh? |
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JDLefebvre
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| tytalton wrote: | | Quote: | | Its a simple matter of opinion.... you're welcome to have the wrong one |
Back at cha man
I don't think we'll be changing each other's minds any time soon eh? |
Definitely not.... but I don't have an agenda! 
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| JDLefebvre wrote: | | tytalton wrote: | | Quote: | | Its a simple matter of opinion.... you're welcome to have the wrong one |
Back at cha man
I don't think we'll be changing each other's minds any time soon eh? |
Definitely not.... but I don't have an agenda! |
Considering the title of the thread I doubt that.
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JDLefebvre
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:56 am Post subject: |
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| Supersuavesky wrote: | | JDLefebvre wrote: | | tytalton wrote: | | Quote: | | Its a simple matter of opinion.... you're welcome to have the wrong one |
Back at cha man
I don't think we'll be changing each other's minds any time soon eh? |
Definitely not.... but I don't have an agenda! |
Considering the title of the thread I doubt that. |
Good try... the title of the thread was copied from the Yahoo article!
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-wont-suspend-suh-low-220103156--nfl.html
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Keleth
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| JDLefebvre wrote: |
HAHA... yeah everyone against Suh has an "agenda"??? |
Nope but apparently when you read this board the NFL and other teams fans all have an agenda against James Harrison,but when he does something according to Pittsburgh fans on here it is always accidental.
Those 2 are both of the same ilk in that they get caught sometimes and sometimes they don't.
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It was obvious he extended his leg and kicked him.
I have zero agenda against Suh but it looked obvious to me. |
So is it obvious or is it obvious to you ?
To me it is not obvious and he should in this case get the benefit of the doubt.
Or do you believe someone should be denied benefit of the doubt because of the past ? |
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JDLefebvre
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Harrisons fines and flags happened during the actual play and are a part of the game. Suh's stomp, and kick are not and were conducted as acts of retaliation..... oops IMO.
As I said IMO it was obvious to ME he extended his leg towards Schaub. Believe what you want Keleth
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| JDLefebvre wrote: | Harrisons fines and flags happen during the play and are a part of the game. Suh's stomp, and kick are not.
As I said IMO it was obvious to ME he extended his leg towards Schaub. Believe what you want Keleth |
On the other hand, the head to head hits delivered by Harrison can end careers wheras suhs kicks aren't really anything that will have any sort of prolonged effect after the game. |
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JDLefebvre
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Love how this is being turned around to Harrison simply cuz I am a Steeler fan.
Suh's offenses while not career threatening are malicious in their intent. The stomp... the forearm to Cutler... this kick and many others show him as a dirty player. Plain and simple!
If you fine him you agree he did something wrong. So a suspension should come with it.
If Harrison has a hit like.his past hits that were fined I will be the first to say suspend him!
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| JDLefebvre wrote: | | iknowcool wrote: | | Good. Fine him? Sure. But don't suspend someone for something you can't say for certain was on purpose. |
So how can you fine him??? |
I don't think he should be but if you (you as in NFL, not you) want to assume he did it on purpose but can't prove it for certain, it would be far more appropriate to fine him than it would suspend him is all I'm saying. I don't think he should be in trouble either way and it was blown out of proportion. |
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Keleth
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| JDLefebvre wrote: | | Harrisons fines and flags happened during the actual play and are a part of the game. Suh's stomp, and kick are not and were conducted as acts of retaliation..... oops IMO. |
So if Harrison was to deliberately go helmet to helmet on someone then it is part of the game ?
This is the blind opinion of a Harrison supporter which apparently is ok but it is not ok to be a blind supporter of Suh which many on this thread are accused of.
They are both (Harrison and Suh) as bad as each other.Because Harrison makes his nasty hits in the process of a play sometimes then that may make him more intelligent than Suh but no different.
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As I said IMO it was obvious to ME he extended his leg towards Schaub. Believe what you want Keleth |
So that's your opinion.
Do you believe the NFL should punish people on their opinions ?
Would you be happy if they suspended Harrison for 4 games because they were of the opinion it was deliberate.
They can fine them because the incident happened but you can't suspend them because they are of the opinion it was deliberate.
No one but Suh in this case knows whether it was deliberate or not. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| JDLefebvre wrote: | Love how this is being turned around to Harrison simply cuz I am a Steeler fan.
Suh's offenses while not career threatening are malicious in their intent. The stomp... the forearm to Cutler... this kick and many others show him as a dirty player. Plain and simple!
If you fine him you agree he did something wrong. So a suspension should come with it.
If Harrison has a hit like.his past hits that were fined I will be the first to say suspend him! |
The "forearm to Cutler" was 100% legal if it's the play I think you're talking about. If Suh would have form tackled and drove Cutler to the ground it would have done a lot more damage than that shove to the back.
Play I think you're referring too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwIcAY5ZU34
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:04 am Post subject: |
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its sad that the only time Suh is in the news is due to him making a pretty big mistake or getting to aggressive.. because off the field he is actually what seems to be a really good philanthropist and does a bunch of the community. but.. this is the 21st century and people like to talk about the bad and overlook the good.. Its getting harder and harder to be a fan of Suh because of all his "antics" and "incidents"
I love his game on the field when hes not making a bonehead move.. and I think hes genuine off the field as well..
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| detfan782004 wrote: | | steelcurtain29 wrote: | I don't understand how he didn't get a suspension. If that wasn't intentional; then his leg just defied the laws of physics.
Suh is an amazing player, but I have no respect for him. No offense to Lions fans, but if someone where to take a cheap shot and take out Suh, I can't say I'd feel sorry for him. He brings it upon himself with this type of thuggish play. |
Bunkleys play was worse and he wont face any suspension either.
Cant have double standards |
There would be no double standard. Suspending a player for their first offense and suspending a player with a history of the act are completely different.
That's like saying there's a double standard because repeat offenders are fined more than first time offenders.
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