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dulatows 
Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 221
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:10 pm Post subject: dulatows's 5 Round Mock with Trades |
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Ok, so I enjoy adding a few trades in the mock, but not too early in rounds to evoke the "my team would never pull that trade" comment. The one I did add that will raise eyebrows is moving Miami tackle Jake Long to Arizona for a first and a third round pick. With Long no longer fitting the offensive scheme they want to run in Arizona, it make sense to bring in someone who does.
I also don't have Kansas City grabbing a quarterback in the first (at this point), because this draft class hasn't displayed the talent at that position that warrants an early pick. Sure, Geno Smith leads the group at this point, but he, Barkley and others all have significant question marks. It sounds like Murray may come out as well, which changes the board.
Either way, this will change by the time the draft comes around.
Trades:
Jake Long from Miami to Arizona for #13 & #75
Oakland sends #67 to Miami for #75 & #112
Round 1 Team Player Pos
1 Kansas City Star Lotulelei DT
2 Jacksonville Geno Smith QB
3 Carolina Johnathan Hankins DT
4 Cleveland Damontre Moore OLB
5 Oakland Manti Te'o ILB
6 St. Louis Luke Joeckel OT
7 Tampa Bay Johnathan Banks CB
8 Buffalo Aaron Murray QB
9 Detroit Bjoern Werner DE
10 Tennessee John Jenkins DT
11 New York Jets Keenan Allen WR
12 Dallas Chance Warmack OG
13 Miami (from Arizona) Jake Matthews OT
14 St. Louis (via Washington) Jarvis Jones DE
15 Philadelphia Tyler Lewan OT
16 Pittsburgh Dion Jordan OLB
17 Cincinnati Barrett Jones OG
18 Miami Tyler Eifert TE
19 San Diego Ezekial Ansah OLB
20 Minnesota Cordarrelle Patterson WR
21 Baltimore Dee Milliner CB
22 New Orleans Datone Jones DE
23 Chicago Kawaan Short DT
24 Green Bay Giovani Bernard RB
25 Seattle DeAndre Hopkins WR
26 Indianapolis Barkevious Mingo OLB
27 New England Eric Reid FS
28 Denver Xavier Rhodes CB
29 New York Giants Oday Aboushi OT
30 San Francisco Chase Thomas OLB
31 Atlanta Alex Okafor DE
32 Houston Da'Rick Rogers WR
Round 2 Team Player Pos
33 Kansas City Tyler Wilson QB
34 Jacksonville Zach Ertz TE
35 Carolina David Amerson CB
36 Cincinnati (via Oakland) Montee Ball RB
37 Tampa Bay Dion Sims TE
38 St. Louis Sean Porter OLB
39 Buffalo Tavon Austin WR
40 Detroit Tony Jefferson FS
41 Tennessee Jonathan Cooper OG
42 New York Jets Jesse Williams DT
43 Dallas Sheldon Richardson DE
44 Arizona Ryan Nassib QB
45 Washington Desmond Trufant CB
46 Philadelphia Robert Lester FS
47 Pittsburgh Kenny Vaccaro FS
48 Cincinnati Khaseem Greene OLB
49 Miami Sam Montgomery DE
50 San Diego Matt Barkley QB
51 Minnesota Shane Skov ILB
52 Baltimore Justin Hunter WR
53 Chicago Arthur Brown OLB
54 Green Bay Eric Fisher OT
55 Seattle Chris Gragg TE
56 Miami (via Indianapolis) CJ Mosley OLB
57 New England Mike Glennon QB
58 Denver Nico Johnson ILB
59 New York Giants Brennan Williams OT
60 San Francisco Carrington Byndom CB
61 Atlanta Terrance Williams WR
62 Houston Jordan Poyer CB
Cleveland FORFEIT
New Orleans FORFEIT
Round 3 Team Player Pos
63 Kansas City Robert Woods WR
64 Jacksonville DJ Swearinger FS
65 San Francisco (via Carolina) Margus Hunt DE
66 Cleveland Stedman Bailey WR
67 Miami (via Oakland) Terry Hawthorne CB
68 St. Louis Zach Dysert QB
69 Tampa Bay Larry Warford OG
70 Buffalo Trevardo Williams OLB
71 Detroit C.J. Fiedorowicz TE
72 Tennessee Le'Veon Bell RB
73 New York Jets Ricky Wagner OT
74 Dallas DJ Fluker OG
75 Oakland (via Miami (from Arizona)) Alec Ogletree ILB
76 Washington Matt Elam SS
77 Philadelphia Ryan Swope WR
78 Pittsburgh Kwame Geathers DT
79 Cincinnati Michael Mauti ILB
80 Miami Phillip Thomas SS
81 San Diego Andre Ellington RB
82 New Orleans Sharrif Floyd DT
83 Minnesota Tank Carradine DE
84 Baltimore Andrew Jackson ILB
85 Miami (via Chicago) William Sutton DT
86 Green Bay John Simon OLB
87 Seattle Alex Hurst OT
88 Indianapolis Gabe Jackson OG
89 New England Quinton Patton WR
90 Denver Bennie Logan DT
91 New York Giants Quanterus Smith DE
92 San Francisco Khaled Holmes C
93 Atlanta Eddie Lacy RB
94 Houston Zeke Motta SS
Round 4 Team Player Pos
95 Kansas City Kevin Minter ILB
96 Jacksonville Stephan Taylor RB
97 Carolina Justin Pugh OT
98 Cleveland Jordan Reed TE
99 Oakland Sylvester Williams DT
100 St. Louis Michael Williams TE
101 Tampa Bay Logan Ryan CB
102 Buffalo Gerald Hodges ILB
103 Minnesota (from Detroit) Kenjon Barner RB
104 Tennessee Robert Alford CB
105 New York Jets TJ McDonald FS
106 Dallas Duke Williams FS
107 Arizona Seantrel Henderson OT
108 Washington Tyron Mathieu CB
109 Philadelphia Akeem Spence DT
110 Pittsburgh Denard Robinson WR
111 Cincinnati Bacarri Rambo FS
112 Oakland (via Miami) Omoregie Uzzi OG
113 San Diego Travis Howard FS
114 New Orleans Zach Sudfeld TE
115 Minnesota Alvin Bailey OG
116 Baltimore Braxton Cave C
117 Chicago James Gayle DE
118 Green Bay Jake Knott ILB
119 Seattle Joseph Fauria TE
120 Indianapolis Aaron Dobson WR
121 Tampa Bay (from New England) Corey Lemonier DE
122 Denver Kiko Alanso ILB
123 New York Giants Jelani Jenkins OLB
124 San Francisco Mark Jackson OT
125 Atlanta Levine Toilolo TE
126 Houston Cobi Hamilton WR
Round 5 Team Player Pos
127 Kansas City Graham Pocic C
128 Jacksonville Micah Hyde SS
129 Carolina Markus Wheaton WR
130 Cleveland Jawan Jamison RB
131 Oakland Jackson Bennett CB
132 St. Louis Justin Gilbert CB
133 Tampa Bay Kenny Stills WR
134 Buffalo Daniel McCullers DT
135 Detroit Ryan Allen P
136 Tennessee Shaun Williams SS
137 New York Jets Jelani Jenkins OLB
138 Dallas Landry Jones QB
139 Arizona Blidi Wreh-Wilson CB
140 Washington William Gholston DE
141 Philadelphia Leon McFadden CB
142 Pittsburgh EJ Manuel QB
143 Cincinnati Tyler Bray QB
144 Miami Alec Lemon WR
145 San Diego Stephon Jefferson RB
146 New Orleans Nickell Robey CB
147 Minnesota Ty Zimmerman FS
148 Baltimore Cornelius Washington OLB
149 Chicago Jake Stoneburner TE
150 Green Bay Josh Boren FB
151 Seattle Zavier Goodman OLB
152 San Francisco (from Indianapolis) Dustin Hopkins K
153 Washington (from New England) Ben Cotton TE
154 Denver Jordan Matthews WR
155 New York Giants Jason Varrett CB
156 San Francisco Marcus Lattimore RB
157 Atlanta Justin Pugh OT _________________
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The Gnat 
 Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 34120 Location: Minneapolis
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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First two rounds are good for the Vikings.
Way to few QB's in round one, more will go, they always do, even if people don't like that idea, probably 3 at minimum go in top 15.
DE for Vikings in round three, just no. OG, DT.
First fourth, RB why, terrible pick, S, or OG/DT that they didn't take previous round.
Justin Hunter going in round two also unlikely. _________________ Gnat's Movie Reviews
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CHOMP_CHOMP 
Joined: 06 Nov 2009 Posts: 1369 Location: Tampa
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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I am in no way trying to be rude when i say the comments i am about to say.
1. How in the hell do you have Tampa picking 7th when we are in the hunt for a wildcard spot?!?
2. While TE is somewhat of a need, FS is a much, much bigger need. You have us passing on Kenny Vaccaro and Tony Jefferson who are better prospects then Sims.
3. Why do we need a OG? We have probably the best OG tandem in the league, and two versatile back ups in Zuttah and Meredith.
4. Cant argue with Logan Ryan, but most consider him to be at worst a late 2nd round pick.
5. I dont mind a WR pick. But we need a slot/WR3. Kenny Stills is not that type of player. I would much rather grab Markus Wheaten in the 4th and then McCullers in the 5th.
All around i just dont think it was a good mock for the Bucs. I just think you may be unfamiliar with our needs. |
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pigsooie5 
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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This draft is wildly off base for Chicago... DT and DE aren't considered top 5 needs by a single member on this board. You'd struggle to find someone putting either in their top 7 needs. And don't tell me Short is BPA, because he absolutely is not at that spot. OL, LB, or Tyler Eifert will be Emery's 1st round pick, I'd sig bet it right now. _________________
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AQuintus
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| The Gnat wrote: | First two rounds are good for the Vikings.
Way to few QB's in round one, more will go, they always do, even if people don't like that idea, probably 3 at minimum go in top 15.
DE for Vikings in round three, just no. OG, DT.
First fourth, RB why, terrible pick, S, or OG/DT that they didn't take previous round.
Justin Hunter going in round two also unlikely. |
I agree with all of this, though I'd prefer Mosley or Arthur Brown over Skov in the 2nd. Edit: Minter, too.
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1. Corderelle Patterson WR is fine
2. CJ Mosley MLB
3. Sylvester Williams DT or Gerald Hodges OLB
4a. TJ McDonald FS or Baccari Rambo FS
4b. Alvin Bailey OG is good
5. Marcus Davis WR or Jonathan Brown OLB (or attempt to move up 2 spots to steal Robey CB) |
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1BackInBlackFan 
Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 4906 Location: 9 wins, PA
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not so sure Jordan would be a good fit at OLB for the Steelers. I see him more of a 4-3 type of player. I feel Mingo would be a better fit there. I really like the second round pick. Steelers need a safety. I like McDonald more though but still Vaccaro is a good pick. NT is a good pick in the third. WR Robinson is a dynamic player but I rather have the Steelers go for a bigger WR instead. Robinson is about the same size as Brown and Sanders. Nice pick in the fifth round. That would be a good time to select a QB and Manuel would be nice there. _________________
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NIKEJWN 
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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I dont hate your draft because you hit on most of if not all of the Bills major needs, but I just cant invision Aaron Murray going in rd 1. He has never been able to perform in big games and maybe I am wrong and he will prove everyone wrong in tomorrows game but I would much rather wait until rd 2 for him or get a guy like Tyler Wilson or even a guy like Tyler Bray. Also not a huge fan a Austin in rd 2. I think he has good talent but we need another big physical red zone target which we dont currently have. I am fine with the LB picks as that is a major need however _________________
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KCDiehard88 
Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Posts: 3074 Location: Southwest MO
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Honestly a QB has to be the number 1 pick. We can't count on Wilson falling to round 2. This is our 1 chance to take our favorite QB out of the entire draft class, not just who is left. We have to take our chance #1 and not be left wondering what if.
I like how your draft plays out, I really do, but QB has to be #1. We have waited too long as it is.
Also in the 5th I would take a CB in this scenario. |
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bdubs3316 
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt Milliner would get past the Lions. They need more help at CB than they do at DE. _________________
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RainbowCarebear 
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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No way Eagles draft at 15, other than that it's okay for us. _________________
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Bo_Spice 
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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I stopped reading when I saw Aaron Murray in the top ten.
Also, no way the Raiders take Te'o fifth overall with Sheldon Richardson, Johnathan Banks, and Luke Joeckel still on the board. _________________
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ninjapirate 
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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you are using a really old order or something. The eagles will finish the season with 3 wins. _________________
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patman
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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How does Arizona afford Jake Longs salary? and Arizona needs every pick
that they can get.
For the Pats
I think the pats keep McCourty at FS next year. And Wilson and Gregory at SS.
Jonathan Cooper is a very athletic player and to me is a good fit, the pats pull their guards and it will allow Connolly to move back to center.
I love Glennon as a developmental pick, but they already have Mallet in that role. BB who tosses around compliments like manhole covers says he is pleased with his development |
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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NVRamsFan
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: dulatows's 5 Round Mock with Trades |
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| dulatows wrote: |
6 St. Louis Luke Joeckel OT
14 St. Louis (via Washington) Jarvis Jones DE
38 St. Louis Sean Porter OLB
68 St. Louis Zach Dysert QB
100 St. Louis Michael Williams TE
132 St. Louis Justin Gilbert CB
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Might go a different route with every pick but hard to argue with those two in the first.
A play maker at WR and S are two of our biggest needs. RT and LG are two bigger needs than LT as long as Saffold can stay healthy. CB is not really a big need though a late rounder could be taken if Fletcher isn't resigned. _________________
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