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Acgott


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its amazing how much we needed defensive last year and instead we get a Kick Returner, 3rd WR, slot CB, a TE that cannot block, OT, OT, DT

Just a horrific draft
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

giants look like there conceding ..
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D-TURBULENTGMEN wrote:
Eli Will play smart this week , no picks watch , redskins or boys , one of them got to lose tomorrow or the vikes and bears , and of course a must win for our blue guys , the universe is funny , and i think somehow someway , we will be making it into the playoff this year.


like i said the universe is funny , we look dead but not lol , somehow someway ... that's all i gotta say ..
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acgott wrote:
Its amazing how much we needed defensive last year and instead we get a Kick Returner, 3rd WR, slot CB, a TE that cannot block, OT, OT, DT

Just a horrific draft


If you look at a draft by positions, you will have a bad team.

BTW what positions would you have gone for last year? I feel like we filled most holes on defense.

This year guys didn't play like they wanted to win every game. Coughlin made some uncharacteristic bad clock management mistakes that cost us some games. Eli and receivers not being on point. Thats the difference from us being in 1st place and in the playoffs to this point where we need a small miracle to make it.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tune in next week to witness the way of the maraculous blue ones as they make it right into the playoff's Wink
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Hopefully this game will be a wakeup call that we can't consistently win with the personnel we have. Yes, we may have won the Super Bowl twice, but we can't consistently stop the run, our CBs and LBs are purposefully targeted by opposing offenses, no one on offense can seem to stay healthy besides Eli and we fold in November and December like clockwork. Yes, we have two Super Bowls, but our defensive line, who supposedly are the bread and butter of our team, can't consistently even get to 10 sacks in a season from year to year. We've won 10 games once in the last 4 years. If we have such a good core, shouldn't we be doing that all the time like the Ravens or the Packers, even with injuries and not always playing our best. We can't rely on just "getting hot" at the right time. If that means getting rid of players or coaches who have been mainstays in the organization, so be it, because right now we're just not as good as we think we are.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can't draft BPA we need to address oline and dline. The game today summed up what we need to address OLine DLine and CBs
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D-TURBULENTGMEN wrote:
tune in next week to witness the way of the maraculous blue ones as they make it right into the playoff's Wink

As far as I'm concerned, the fat lady has sung.

The Giants need to bring in some fresh talent. The players that were key contributors in our two Superbowl runs are no longer performing at their previous levels.

Corey Webster
Chris Snee
Justin Tuck
Osi Umenyiora
David Diehl
Ahmad Bradshaw

Get rid of some of those big salaries and bring in players are more hungry.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gmen wrote:
D-TURBULENTGMEN wrote:
tune in next week to witness the way of the maraculous blue ones as they make it right into the playoff's Wink

As far as I'm concerned, the fat lady has sung.

The Giants need to bring in some fresh talent. The players that were key contributors in our two Superbowl runs are no longer performing at their previous levels.

Corey Webster
Chris Snee
Justin Tuck
Osi Umenyiora
David Diehl
Ahmad Bradshaw

Get rid of some of those big salaries and bring in players are more hungry.


Precisely. Other then Bradshaw all of those players seem content to me. We need to do some remodeling to this team. Send some messages out there.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigblew wrote:
We can't draft BPA we need to address oline and dline. The game today summed up what we need to address OLine DLine and CBs



this ^^
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bigbluefan80 wrote:
bigblew wrote:
We can't draft BPA we need to address oline and dline. The game today summed up what we need to address OLine DLine and CBs



this ^^


We have drafted all those positions the last few years. We should continue our strategy. One season does not change that.
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Gmen wrote:
D-TURBULENTGMEN wrote:
tune in next week to witness the way of the maraculous blue ones as they make it right into the playoff's Wink

As far as I'm concerned, the fat lady has sung.

The Giants need to bring in some fresh talent. The players that were key contributors in our two Superbowl runs are no longer performing at their previous levels.

Corey Webster
Chris Snee
Justin Tuck
Osi Umenyiora
David Diehl
Ahmad Bradshaw

Get rid of some of those big salaries and bring in players are more hungry.


I mostly agree, but I don't think the coach's son-in-law gets cut. Maybe they restructure his contract. I wouldn't mind having Osi back on a reduced salary, but the rest of those guys shouldn't be Giants in 2013.
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Wow. You really should back off of the Eli love. If anything, Eli is a negative impact.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Save The Hero wrote:
bigbluefan80 wrote:
bigblew wrote:
We can't draft BPA we need to address oline and dline. The game today summed up what we need to address OLine DLine and CBs



this ^^


We have drafted all those positions the last few years. We should continue our strategy. One season does not change that.

There is enough talent in every single NFL Draft to be able to marry BPA and positional needs.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mlv wrote:
Gmen wrote:
D-TURBULENTGMEN wrote:
tune in next week to witness the way of the maraculous blue ones as they make it right into the playoff's Wink

As far as I'm concerned, the fat lady has sung.

The Giants need to bring in some fresh talent. The players that were key contributors in our two Superbowl runs are no longer performing at their previous levels.

Corey Webster
Chris Snee
Justin Tuck
Osi Umenyiora
David Diehl
Ahmad Bradshaw

Get rid of some of those big salaries and bring in players are more hungry.


I mostly agree, but I don't think the coach's son-in-law gets cut. Maybe they restructure his contract. I wouldn't mind having Osi back on a reduced salary, but the rest of those guys shouldn't be Giants in 2013.


Osi made $6M this year. Yup, $6M smackers. A million bucks per sack. Let that sink in. Just sayin...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Save The Hero wrote:
Acgott wrote:
Its amazing how much we needed defensive last year and instead we get a Kick Returner, 3rd WR, slot CB, a TE that cannot block, OT, OT, DT

Just a horrific draft


If you look at a draft by positions, you will have a bad team.

BTW what positions would you have gone for last year? I feel like we filled most holes on defense.

This year guys didn't play like they wanted to win every game. Coughlin made some uncharacteristic bad clock management mistakes that cost us some games. Eli and receivers not being on point. Thats the difference from us being in 1st place and in the playoffs to this point where we need a small miracle to make it.

I wanted anything on defense especially another DE
I was absolutely against RB
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