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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Make The Case for Dennis Allen to keep his job Reply with quote

Heart of Oak wrote:
BuckSavage wrote:
I dont see how people can argue for Dennis Allen to come back. I see nothing in him that he can lead us to a super bowl in the future. But I would like to hear what people think why he should keep his job

What do you think?

My opinion:

The truth is that Reggie hired a coach who wasn't ready to be a head coach in the NFL. He should be a Defensive Coordinator at this point and had a proven track record of success before becoming a head coach.


Really, the argument is not should Dennis Allen be given his jotters, rather, should we have hired him in the first place? After 10+ years of losing what this franchise really didn't need was a rookie HC.

However, maybe despite his inexperience he was the best candidate. How many Bill Cowher's or [insert other experienced HC candidate here] want to inherit the Raider roster placing their reputation on the line?

I think Dennis Allen has to be given time to turn this thing around, otherwise other coaches will see the Raiders job as a 'one year appointment'. You have to remember that DA didn't have much talent on the roster and the best talent we have is in the hands of Knapp, no high draft picks and not exactly a huge FA budget - not a recipe for success no matter the HC.

Most of our offensive woes are due to the OC - replace him with a good and imaginative OC and things improve.


Bingo.

We were doomed once Knapp was brought on board to call the plays. We knew since the off season that we would have to score points and let the offense carry the team in order to compete. The regression we have witnessed is laughable and it drives me crazy when Knapp/Allen blame it on the scheme change. Plenty of other teams switch up schemes and play books and still see better results than what we are getting.

Also, does anyone find it funny how when we see a little progression in the running game, Knapp comes out in the papers and makes a point to give us the " Well, were starting to see better results because we have spent some time in this offense and the players are starting to get it" speech??
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Make The Case for Dennis Allen to keep his job Reply with quote

early43 wrote:
Heart of Oak wrote:
BuckSavage wrote:
I dont see how people can argue for Dennis Allen to come back. I see nothing in him that he can lead us to a super bowl in the future. But I would like to hear what people think why he should keep his job

What do you think?

My opinion:

The truth is that Reggie hired a coach who wasn't ready to be a head coach in the NFL. He should be a Defensive Coordinator at this point and had a proven track record of success before becoming a head coach.


Really, the argument is not should Dennis Allen be given his jotters, rather, should we have hired him in the first place? After 10+ years of losing what this franchise really didn't need was a rookie HC.

However, maybe despite his inexperience he was the best candidate. How many Bill Cowher's or [insert other experienced HC candidate here] want to inherit the Raider roster placing their reputation on the line?

I think Dennis Allen has to be given time to turn this thing around, otherwise other coaches will see the Raiders job as a 'one year appointment'. You have to remember that DA didn't have much talent on the roster and the best talent we have is in the hands of Knapp, no high draft picks and not exactly a huge FA budget - not a recipe for success no matter the HC.

Most of our offensive woes are due to the OC - replace him with a good and imaginative OC and things improve.


Bingo.

We were doomed once Knapp was brought on board to call the plays. We knew since the off season that we would have to score points and let the offense carry the team in order to compete. The regression we have witnessed is laughable and it drives me crazy when Knapp/Allen blame it on the scheme change. Plenty of other teams switch up schemes and play books and still see better results than what we are getting.

Also, does anyone find it funny how when we see a little progression in the running game, Knapp comes out in the papers and makes a point to give us the " Well, were starting to see better results because we have spent some time in this offense and the players are starting to get it" speech??



Hiring Knapp was a big mistake. You have to question Allen's football knowledge if he thought that was a good move.
He compounded the mistake by giving Knapp free reign throughout the season. Knapp should've been stripped of his play calling duties few games into the season but Allen made excuses for him instead.
That shows me that he's in over head.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Make The Case for Dennis Allen to keep his job Reply with quote

bitty wrote:
early43 wrote:
Heart of Oak wrote:
BuckSavage wrote:
I dont see how people can argue for Dennis Allen to come back. I see nothing in him that he can lead us to a super bowl in the future. But I would like to hear what people think why he should keep his job

What do you think?

My opinion:

The truth is that Reggie hired a coach who wasn't ready to be a head coach in the NFL. He should be a Defensive Coordinator at this point and had a proven track record of success before becoming a head coach.


Really, the argument is not should Dennis Allen be given his jotters, rather, should we have hired him in the first place? After 10+ years of losing what this franchise really didn't need was a rookie HC.

However, maybe despite his inexperience he was the best candidate. How many Bill Cowher's or [insert other experienced HC candidate here] want to inherit the Raider roster placing their reputation on the line?

I think Dennis Allen has to be given time to turn this thing around, otherwise other coaches will see the Raiders job as a 'one year appointment'. You have to remember that DA didn't have much talent on the roster and the best talent we have is in the hands of Knapp, no high draft picks and not exactly a huge FA budget - not a recipe for success no matter the HC.

Most of our offensive woes are due to the OC - replace him with a good and imaginative OC and things improve.


Bingo.

We were doomed once Knapp was brought on board to call the plays. We knew since the off season that we would have to score points and let the offense carry the team in order to compete. The regression we have witnessed is laughable and it drives me crazy when Knapp/Allen blame it on the scheme change. Plenty of other teams switch up schemes and play books and still see better results than what we are getting.

Also, does anyone find it funny how when we see a little progression in the running game, Knapp comes out in the papers and makes a point to give us the " Well, were starting to see better results because we have spent some time in this offense and the players are starting to get it" speech??



Hiring Knapp was a big mistake. You have to question Allen's football knowledge if he thought that was a good move.
He compounded the mistake by giving Knapp free reign throughout the season. Knapp should've been stripped of his play calling duties few games into the season but Allen made excuses for him instead.
That shows me that he's in over head.


Should I question his football knowledge because Bitty told me too?

Should the all knowledgeable Bitty be the Raiders HC? Because we all know you would hire the GOAT OC. Just like you know Knapp was his first choice and just like you know a young inexperienced head coach can hire any oc in the world because everyone wants to work here and he knows everybody.

Hindsight is 20/20. Allen didn't have much time to hire somebody, and even though Knapp wasn't great in the past, he was never really this bad.

It was a rookie mistake, it happens, he'll evaluate it, learn and move on. Allen will be here next year, sorry to disappoint you.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres why IMO Allen needs to keep his job;

no coach will come here if they see Mark Davis override the GM and fire the coach

No coach will come here if they see the GM give up on his guy after 1 year.

If we fire DA we are in some very serious trouble finding a coach for the future
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:35 am    Post subject: Re: Make The Case for Dennis Allen to keep his job Reply with quote

OakRaiders3828 wrote:
bitty wrote:
early43 wrote:
Heart of Oak wrote:
BuckSavage wrote:
I dont see how people can argue for Dennis Allen to come back. I see nothing in him that he can lead us to a super bowl in the future. But I would like to hear what people think why he should keep his job

What do you think?

My opinion:

The truth is that Reggie hired a coach who wasn't ready to be a head coach in the NFL. He should be a Defensive Coordinator at this point and had a proven track record of success before becoming a head coach.


Really, the argument is not should Dennis Allen be given his jotters, rather, should we have hired him in the first place? After 10+ years of losing what this franchise really didn't need was a rookie HC.

However, maybe despite his inexperience he was the best candidate. How many Bill Cowher's or [insert other experienced HC candidate here] want to inherit the Raider roster placing their reputation on the line?

I think Dennis Allen has to be given time to turn this thing around, otherwise other coaches will see the Raiders job as a 'one year appointment'. You have to remember that DA didn't have much talent on the roster and the best talent we have is in the hands of Knapp, no high draft picks and not exactly a huge FA budget - not a recipe for success no matter the HC.

Most of our offensive woes are due to the OC - replace him with a good and imaginative OC and things improve.


Bingo.

We were doomed once Knapp was brought on board to call the plays. We knew since the off season that we would have to score points and let the offense carry the team in order to compete. The regression we have witnessed is laughable and it drives me crazy when Knapp/Allen blame it on the scheme change. Plenty of other teams switch up schemes and play books and still see better results than what we are getting.

Also, does anyone find it funny how when we see a little progression in the running game, Knapp comes out in the papers and makes a point to give us the " Well, were starting to see better results because we have spent some time in this offense and the players are starting to get it" speech??



Hiring Knapp was a big mistake. You have to question Allen's football knowledge if he thought that was a good move.
He compounded the mistake by giving Knapp free reign throughout the season. Knapp should've been stripped of his play calling duties few games into the season but Allen made excuses for him instead.
That shows me that he's in over head.


Should I question his football knowledge because Bitty told me too?

Should the all knowledgeable Bitty be the Raiders HC? Because we all know you would hire the GOAT OC. Just like you know Knapp was his first choice and just like you know a young inexperienced head coach can hire any oc in the world because everyone wants to work here and he knows everybody.

Hindsight is 20/20. Allen didn't have much time to hire somebody, and even though Knapp wasn't great in the past, he was never really this bad.

It was a rookie mistake, it happens, he'll evaluate it, learn and move on. Allen will be here next year, sorry to disappoint you.


Who would even call the plays if Knapp didn't? Seriously haha. A rookie defensive minded HC should totally get his hands into the offense. That's a terrific idea.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: Make The Case for Dennis Allen to keep his job Reply with quote

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Who would even call the plays if Knapp didn't? Seriously haha. A rookie defensive minded HC should totally get his hands into the offense. That's a terrific idea.
Saunders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But really, there was nobody and I really wonder what the hell Saunders' job here is.
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The point is that as much as the continual losing hurts and we all want instant turnarounds, the Raiders organisation has finally started on the 'rebuild' road rather than the 'reload' one (cutting Van Dyke, the McClain situation). This is good but is going to take time.

However, I'm hoping Knapp is just a speed bump on that road. Allen and Tarver (the defensive minded coaches) have little to work with, Knapp on the other hand has the best talent we have and still sucks. Allen is of course responsible for both offensive and defensive sides of the ball - but if you are going to hire a rookie HC (whether you had to or not) you have to expect some rookie mistakes.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: Make The Case for Dennis Allen to keep his job Reply with quote

OakRaiders3828 wrote:
bitty wrote:
early43 wrote:
Heart of Oak wrote:
BuckSavage wrote:
I dont see how people can argue for Dennis Allen to come back. I see nothing in him that he can lead us to a super bowl in the future. But I would like to hear what people think why he should keep his job

What do you think?

My opinion:

The truth is that Reggie hired a coach who wasn't ready to be a head coach in the NFL. He should be a Defensive Coordinator at this point and had a proven track record of success before becoming a head coach.


Really, the argument is not should Dennis Allen be given his jotters, rather, should we have hired him in the first place? After 10+ years of losing what this franchise really didn't need was a rookie HC.

However, maybe despite his inexperience he was the best candidate. How many Bill Cowher's or [insert other experienced HC candidate here] want to inherit the Raider roster placing their reputation on the line?

I think Dennis Allen has to be given time to turn this thing around, otherwise other coaches will see the Raiders job as a 'one year appointment'. You have to remember that DA didn't have much talent on the roster and the best talent we have is in the hands of Knapp, no high draft picks and not exactly a huge FA budget - not a recipe for success no matter the HC.

Most of our offensive woes are due to the OC - replace him with a good and imaginative OC and things improve.


Bingo.

We were doomed once Knapp was brought on board to call the plays. We knew since the off season that we would have to score points and let the offense carry the team in order to compete. The regression we have witnessed is laughable and it drives me crazy when Knapp/Allen blame it on the scheme change. Plenty of other teams switch up schemes and play books and still see better results than what we are getting.

Also, does anyone find it funny how when we see a little progression in the running game, Knapp comes out in the papers and makes a point to give us the " Well, were starting to see better results because we have spent some time in this offense and the players are starting to get it" speech??



Hiring Knapp was a big mistake. You have to question Allen's football knowledge if he thought that was a good move.
He compounded the mistake by giving Knapp free reign throughout the season. Knapp should've been stripped of his play calling duties few games into the season but Allen made excuses for him instead.
That shows me that he's in over head.


Should I question his football knowledge because Bitty told me too?

Should the all knowledgeable Bitty be the Raiders HC? Because we all know you would hire the GOAT OC. Just like you know Knapp was his first choice and just like you know a young inexperienced head coach can hire any oc in the world because everyone wants to work here and he knows everybody.

Hindsight is 20/20. Allen didn't have much time to hire somebody, and even though Knapp wasn't great in the past, he was never really this bad.

It was a rookie mistake, it happens, he'll evaluate it, learn and move on. Allen will be here next year, sorry to disappoint you.



If you don't understand the topic please don't reply to it.

No you should question his football knowledge because he hired OC who was strippers of his playcalling duties and fired his last three jobs.
That is not hindsight that is a fact.

If there was no other choice he should've never got rid of Saunders. He should've waited a year to implement his offense. Allen would've of had more pieces in place and a smoother transition.

As I have stated before I think Allen and whole coaching staff should be brought back next year but that doesn't excuse his mistakes.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: Make The Case for Dennis Allen to keep his job Reply with quote

bitty wrote:
early43 wrote:
Heart of Oak wrote:
BuckSavage wrote:
I dont see how people can argue for Dennis Allen to come back. I see nothing in him that he can lead us to a super bowl in the future. But I would like to hear what people think why he should keep his job

What do you think?

My opinion:

The truth is that Reggie hired a coach who wasn't ready to be a head coach in the NFL. He should be a Defensive Coordinator at this point and had a proven track record of success before becoming a head coach.


Really, the argument is not should Dennis Allen be given his jotters, rather, should we have hired him in the first place? After 10+ years of losing what this franchise really didn't need was a rookie HC.

However, maybe despite his inexperience he was the best candidate. How many Bill Cowher's or [insert other experienced HC candidate here] want to inherit the Raider roster placing their reputation on the line?

I think Dennis Allen has to be given time to turn this thing around, otherwise other coaches will see the Raiders job as a 'one year appointment'. You have to remember that DA didn't have much talent on the roster and the best talent we have is in the hands of Knapp, no high draft picks and not exactly a huge FA budget - not a recipe for success no matter the HC.

Most of our offensive woes are due to the OC - replace him with a good and imaginative OC and things improve.


Bingo.

We were doomed once Knapp was brought on board to call the plays. We knew since the off season that we would have to score points and let the offense carry the team in order to compete. The regression we have witnessed is laughable and it drives me crazy when Knapp/Allen blame it on the scheme change. Plenty of other teams switch up schemes and play books and still see better results than what we are getting.

Also, does anyone find it funny how when we see a little progression in the running game, Knapp comes out in the papers and makes a point to give us the " Well, were starting to see better results because we have spent some time in this offense and the players are starting to get it" speech??



Hiring Knapp was a big mistake. You have to question Allen's football knowledge if he thought that was a good move.
He compounded the mistake by giving Knapp free reign throughout the season. Knapp should've been stripped of his play calling duties few games into the season but Allen made excuses for him instead.
That shows me that he's in over head.


How dumb is this? You don't strip an OC of his of his job after 2 games.

Also. Who makes the play calls? You can't turn over the offense to Saunders who is a completely different coach.

Offenses take time. With limited talent it takes even more. This attitude that Oakland should have been anything other than a mediocre team is getting ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Make The Case for Dennis Allen to keep his job Reply with quote

bitty wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
bitty wrote:
early43 wrote:
Heart of Oak wrote:
BuckSavage wrote:
I dont see how people can argue for Dennis Allen to come back. I see nothing in him that he can lead us to a super bowl in the future. But I would like to hear what people think why he should keep his job

What do you think?

My opinion:

The truth is that Reggie hired a coach who wasn't ready to be a head coach in the NFL. He should be a Defensive Coordinator at this point and had a proven track record of success before becoming a head coach.


Really, the argument is not should Dennis Allen be given his jotters, rather, should we have hired him in the first place? After 10+ years of losing what this franchise really didn't need was a rookie HC.

However, maybe despite his inexperience he was the best candidate. How many Bill Cowher's or [insert other experienced HC candidate here] want to inherit the Raider roster placing their reputation on the line?

I think Dennis Allen has to be given time to turn this thing around, otherwise other coaches will see the Raiders job as a 'one year appointment'. You have to remember that DA didn't have much talent on the roster and the best talent we have is in the hands of Knapp, no high draft picks and not exactly a huge FA budget - not a recipe for success no matter the HC.

Most of our offensive woes are due to the OC - replace him with a good and imaginative OC and things improve.


Bingo.

We were doomed once Knapp was brought on board to call the plays. We knew since the off season that we would have to score points and let the offense carry the team in order to compete. The regression we have witnessed is laughable and it drives me crazy when Knapp/Allen blame it on the scheme change. Plenty of other teams switch up schemes and play books and still see better results than what we are getting.

Also, does anyone find it funny how when we see a little progression in the running game, Knapp comes out in the papers and makes a point to give us the " Well, were starting to see better results because we have spent some time in this offense and the players are starting to get it" speech??



Hiring Knapp was a big mistake. You have to question Allen's football knowledge if he thought that was a good move.
He compounded the mistake by giving Knapp free reign throughout the season. Knapp should've been stripped of his play calling duties few games into the season but Allen made excuses for him instead.
That shows me that he's in over head.


Should I question his football knowledge because Bitty told me too?

Should the all knowledgeable Bitty be the Raiders HC? Because we all know you would hire the GOAT OC. Just like you know Knapp was his first choice and just like you know a young inexperienced head coach can hire any oc in the world because everyone wants to work here and he knows everybody.

Hindsight is 20/20. Allen didn't have much time to hire somebody, and even though Knapp wasn't great in the past, he was never really this bad.

It was a rookie mistake, it happens, he'll evaluate it, learn and move on. Allen will be here next year, sorry to disappoint you.



If you don't understand the topic please don't reply to it.

No you should question his football knowledge because he hired OC who was strippers of his playcalling duties and fired his last three jobs.
That is not hindsight that is a fact.

If there was no other choice he should've never got rid of Saunders. He should've waited a year to implement his offense. Allen would've of had more pieces in place and a smoother transition.

As I have stated before I think Allen and whole coaching staff should be brought back next year but that doesn't excuse his mistakes.


Oh I understand the topic thanks lol. I guess you need to try to make me feel stupid to build your ego, that's cool. Anyway, if he strips him of the play calling duties then what? Give them to Saunders? He runs a completely different offense. Think a little.

And he isn't waiting a year and implementing Saunders offense or whatever, the GM has made it very clear what kind of system he wants to run.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Make The Case for Dennis Allen to keep his job Reply with quote

OakRaiders3828 wrote:
bitty wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
bitty wrote:
early43 wrote:
Heart of Oak wrote:
BuckSavage wrote:
I dont see how people can argue for Dennis Allen to come back. I see nothing in him that he can lead us to a super bowl in the future. But I would like to hear what people think why he should keep his job

What do you think?

My opinion:

The truth is that Reggie hired a coach who wasn't ready to be a head coach in the NFL. He should be a Defensive Coordinator at this point and had a proven track record of success before becoming a head coach.


Really, the argument is not should Dennis Allen be given his jotters, rather, should we have hired him in the first place? After 10+ years of losing what this franchise really didn't need was a rookie HC.

However, maybe despite his inexperience he was the best candidate. How many Bill Cowher's or [insert other experienced HC candidate here] want to inherit the Raider roster placing their reputation on the line?

I think Dennis Allen has to be given time to turn this thing around, otherwise other coaches will see the Raiders job as a 'one year appointment'. You have to remember that DA didn't have much talent on the roster and the best talent we have is in the hands of Knapp, no high draft picks and not exactly a huge FA budget - not a recipe for success no matter the HC.

Most of our offensive woes are due to the OC - replace him with a good and imaginative OC and things improve.


Bingo.

We were doomed once Knapp was brought on board to call the plays. We knew since the off season that we would have to score points and let the offense carry the team in order to compete. The regression we have witnessed is laughable and it drives me crazy when Knapp/Allen blame it on the scheme change. Plenty of other teams switch up schemes and play books and still see better results than what we are getting.

Also, does anyone find it funny how when we see a little progression in the running game, Knapp comes out in the papers and makes a point to give us the " Well, were starting to see better results because we have spent some time in this offense and the players are starting to get it" speech??



Hiring Knapp was a big mistake. You have to question Allen's football knowledge if he thought that was a good move.
He compounded the mistake by giving Knapp free reign throughout the season. Knapp should've been stripped of his play calling duties few games into the season but Allen made excuses for him instead.
That shows me that he's in over head.


Should I question his football knowledge because Bitty told me too?

Should the all knowledgeable Bitty be the Raiders HC? Because we all know you would hire the GOAT OC. Just like you know Knapp was his first choice and just like you know a young inexperienced head coach can hire any oc in the world because everyone wants to work here and he knows everybody.

Hindsight is 20/20. Allen didn't have much time to hire somebody, and even though Knapp wasn't great in the past, he was never really this bad.

It was a rookie mistake, it happens, he'll evaluate it, learn and move on. Allen will be here next year, sorry to disappoint you.



If you don't understand the topic please don't reply to it.

No you should question his football knowledge because he hired OC who was strippers of his playcalling duties and fired his last three jobs.
That is not hindsight that is a fact.

If there was no other choice he should've never got rid of Saunders. He should've waited a year to implement his offense. Allen would've of had more pieces in place and a smoother transition.

As I have stated before I think Allen and whole coaching staff should be brought back next year but that doesn't excuse his mistakes.


Oh I understand the topic thanks lol. I guess you need to try to make me feel stupid to build your ego, that's cool. Anyway, if he strips him of the play calling duties then what? Give them to Saunders? He runs a completely different offense. Think a little.

And he isn't waiting a year and implementing Saunders offense or whatever, the GM has made it very clear what kind of system he wants to run.


And you missed the point again.
The point was hiring Knapp as a coach with a track record of failure wasn't a good first impression.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Make The Case for Dennis Allen to keep his job Reply with quote

Yeah we should have fired Knapp and either A) let someone else who ran a completely different offense call plays B) let someone else who has never called plays run the offense or C) give up on our whole offensive scheme in less than 4 games and completely change every aspect of our offense

Those would have been the best things to do.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Make The Case for Dennis Allen to keep his job Reply with quote

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Yeah we should have fired Knapp and either A) let someone else who ran a completely different offense call plays B) let someone else who has never called plays run the offense or C) give up on our whole offensive scheme in less than 4 games and completely change every aspect of our offense

Those would have been the best things to do.



Who's fault is it he hired a bunch of assistant coaches with no experience.
Allen didn't getting saddled with a bunch of coaches from the old regime. These are his hand-picked coaches.
I don't want to hear what was he supposed to do.
This is his mess he needs to fix it that's why he's HC.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Make The Case for Dennis Allen to keep his job Reply with quote

bitty wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
Yeah we should have fired Knapp and either A) let someone else who ran a completely different offense call plays B) let someone else who has never called plays run the offense or C) give up on our whole offensive scheme in less than 4 games and completely change every aspect of our offense

Those would have been the best things to do.



Who's fault is it he hired a bunch of assistant coaches with no experience.
Allen didn't getting saddled with a bunch of coaches from the old regime. These are his hand-picked coaches.
I don't want to hear what was he supposed to do.
This is his mess he needs to fix it that's why he's HC.


True but to be fair at the time he was picked up as HC ASmile who would come here? and BSmile who was left to coach the WCO?

Also first time coaches often have to go off advice they receive from people in the coaching tree and other coaches around the league. It has been well noted that Knapp was still highly regarding as an OC before the start of this season(Not my personal thought).

I will be a bit more concerned if we have options this off-season and he chooses not to excersise them. One thing we do know is the WCO is staying.
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