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dotmotion 
Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 10450 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject: Guardian's 100 Best Footballers |
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Guardian did a poll of all the journalist that they employ/use of the top 100 footballers and aggregated their votes. I thought its pretty interesting to discuss and we haven't done a top player discussion in a while so what better way to spend Christmas, According to Nate Silver, who is is the absolute truth, because the Guardian aggregated their data, this list is thus 100% correct. So, do you guys 150% agree with this list or 200% agree with this list. If you disagree with this list, what would be your "unskewed" top 10 players in the world?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/interactive/2012/dec/20/top-100-footballers-in-the-world-interactive
1. Lionel Messi
2. Cristiano Ronaldo
3. Xavi
4. Andres Iniesta
5. Zlatan Ibrahimovic
6. Radamel Falcao
7. Robin van Persie
8. Andrea Pirlo
9. Yaya Toure
10. Edinson Cavani _________________
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Mando323 
Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 6761 Location: When you lose the chase where you're dragged against your will From a Basement on a Hill
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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How in the world is Biscuits so high?
On Luis:
| Quote: | | There is no team in the world that would not be better with him in it |
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yankee0724
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Mando323 wrote: | How in the world is Biscuits so high?
On Luis:
| Quote: | | There is no team in the world that would not be better with him in it |
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Because Busi is the best DM in the world? _________________
| LeeEvans wrote: | | Dr. Philly wrote: | | Where is Llorente. | Bench most likely. Unless he had to run to the bathroom. |
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ukjets21 
Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14673 Location: Newcastle, from Carlisle
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| yankee0724 wrote: | | Mando323 wrote: | How in the world is Biscuits so high?
On Luis:
| Quote: | | There is no team in the world that would not be better with him in it |
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Because Busi is the best DM in the world? |
He is not a better player than about 20 people below him, no way he's better than Alonso, Suarez or Thiago Silva. Neymar at 12 is also laughable. _________________
- Jamison
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yankee0724
Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 11625 Location: 'MERICA
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| ukjets21 wrote: | | yankee0724 wrote: | | Mando323 wrote: | How in the world is Biscuits so high?
On Luis:
| Quote: | | There is no team in the world that would not be better with him in it |
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Because Busi is the best DM in the world? |
He is not a better player than about 20 people below him, no way he's better than Alonso, Suarez or Thiago Silva. Neymar at 12 is also laughable. |
The only one of those 3 you named you have a case for is Silva. It's laughable how underrated Busi remains. He's better at his job than damn near everyone on that list is at theirs. _________________
| LeeEvans wrote: | | Dr. Philly wrote: | | Where is Llorente. | Bench most likely. Unless he had to run to the bathroom. |
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ukjets21 
Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14673 Location: Newcastle, from Carlisle
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| yankee0724 wrote: | | ukjets21 wrote: | | yankee0724 wrote: | | Mando323 wrote: | How in the world is Biscuits so high?
On Luis:
| Quote: | | There is no team in the world that would not be better with him in it |
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Because Busi is the best DM in the world? |
He is not a better player than about 20 people below him, no way he's better than Alonso, Suarez or Thiago Silva. Neymar at 12 is also laughable. |
The only one of those 3 you named you have a case for is Silva. It's laughable how underrated Busi remains. He's better at his job than damn near everyone on that list is at theirs. |
Busquets is not better than Alonso or Suarez  _________________
- Jamison
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Tom Shean 
Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Posts: 4740 Location: Tha 703
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Neymar at 13?
Busquets at 14?
Neuer at 29 behind Casillas and Buffon? _________________
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dotmotion 
Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 10450 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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I have no problem with Neuer being the 3rd best keeper. I still think Casillas is the best and Buffon had a great season and Euro. Neymar is a little high. Would still put him in the top 30 but 15 is fishy. _________________
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The Wyzzinator 
 Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 13893 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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An Arsenal player!
Thought Santi would crack the Top 50. _________________
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yankee0724
Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 11625 Location: 'MERICA
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| ukjets21 wrote: | | yankee0724 wrote: | | ukjets21 wrote: | | yankee0724 wrote: | | Mando323 wrote: | How in the world is Biscuits so high?
On Luis:
| Quote: | | There is no team in the world that would not be better with him in it |
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Because Busi is the best DM in the world? |
He is not a better player than about 20 people below him, no way he's better than Alonso, Suarez or Thiago Silva. Neymar at 12 is also laughable. |
The only one of those 3 you named you have a case for is Silva. It's laughable how underrated Busi remains. He's better at his job than damn near everyone on that list is at theirs. |
Busquets is not better than Alonso or Suarez  |
Any other Liverpool guys he's not better than? Busquets is the best DM in the world. He's better than Alonso and he's a better DM than Suarez is a striker. _________________
| LeeEvans wrote: | | Dr. Philly wrote: | | Where is Llorente. | Bench most likely. Unless he had to run to the bathroom. |
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ukjets21 
Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14673 Location: Newcastle, from Carlisle
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| yankee0724 wrote: | | ukjets21 wrote: | | yankee0724 wrote: | | ukjets21 wrote: | | yankee0724 wrote: | | Mando323 wrote: | How in the world is Biscuits so high?
On Luis:
| Quote: | | There is no team in the world that would not be better with him in it |
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Because Busi is the best DM in the world? |
He is not a better player than about 20 people below him, no way he's better than Alonso, Suarez or Thiago Silva. Neymar at 12 is also laughable. |
The only one of those 3 you named you have a case for is Silva. It's laughable how underrated Busi remains. He's better at his job than damn near everyone on that list is at theirs. |
Busquets is not better than Alonso or Suarez  |
Any other Liverpool guys he's not better than? Busquets is the best DM in the world. He's better than Alonso and he's a better DM than Suarez is a striker. |
No it's just Suarez that he's inferior to. Not every Barca player has to be in the worlds top 15 you know. _________________
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yankee0724
Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 11625 Location: 'MERICA
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| ukjets21 wrote: | | yankee0724 wrote: | | ukjets21 wrote: | | yankee0724 wrote: | | ukjets21 wrote: | | yankee0724 wrote: | | Mando323 wrote: | How in the world is Biscuits so high?
On Luis:
| Quote: | | There is no team in the world that would not be better with him in it |
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Because Busi is the best DM in the world? |
He is not a better player than about 20 people below him, no way he's better than Alonso, Suarez or Thiago Silva. Neymar at 12 is also laughable. |
The only one of those 3 you named you have a case for is Silva. It's laughable how underrated Busi remains. He's better at his job than damn near everyone on that list is at theirs. |
Busquets is not better than Alonso or Suarez  |
Any other Liverpool guys he's not better than? Busquets is the best DM in the world. He's better than Alonso and he's a better DM than Suarez is a striker. |
No it's just Suarez that he's inferior to. Not every Barca player has to be in the worlds top 15 you know. |
Only the ones that deserve it. Busi deserves it. _________________
| LeeEvans wrote: | | Dr. Philly wrote: | | Where is Llorente. | Bench most likely. Unless he had to run to the bathroom. |
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teamorange 
Joined: 15 Nov 2010 Posts: 7569
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Pirlo should be third and Ribery should be top 10. Pique shouldn't even be on the list, I'm fine with Biscuits top 15. Also Buffon > Iker. Those are my comments on the top 20.
Also Forlan on the list? Did someone just wake up from the world cup? Also did Modric not make the list? That is hilarious _________________
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Care to offer some sort of insight instead of just being obnoxious?  | I don't. |
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yankee0724
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| teamorange wrote: | Pirlo should be third and Ribery should be top 10. Pique shouldn't even be on the list, I'm fine with Biscuits top 15. Also Buffon > Iker. Those are my comments on the top 20.
Also Forlan on the list? Did someone just wake up from the world cup? Also did Modric not make the list? That is hilarious |
Modric's #80. Agree Pique shouldn't be on the list. He hasn't been the same player for a while now.
Other things on the list...
Neymar at 13
Cesc at 36
Evra being on this list
Cazorla needs to be a lot higher
I'd personally put Gotze over Reus, though neither should be higher than Cesc...
Emmanuel Mayuka...really?
Also Nasri...his description was great. Almost like the person who wrote it didn't understand how he made the list. _________________
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dotmotion 
Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 10450 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Come on Mayuka was a great choice. When you watch Southampton now, you can say you watched the 85th best player in the world. _________________
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