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TiberiusRising


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pryor is starting.

Head Coach Dennis Allen names @TerrellePryor starting QB for Sunday.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TiberiusRising wrote:
Pryor is starting.

Head Coach Dennis Allen names @TerrellePryor starting QB for Sunday.


got link?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eli over Marino, Favre, or Warner?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCOUGHMAN wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
Pryor is starting.

Head Coach Dennis Allen names @TerrellePryor starting QB for Sunday.


got link?

Raiders twitter account announced it. We also put Adams on IR and activate Nelms and Bair.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TiberiusRising wrote:
Pryor is starting.

Head Coach Dennis Allen names @TerrellePryor starting QB for Sunday.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Raiders will place DB Phillip Adams on IR and activate DB Cory Nelms and DL Brandon Bair from practice squad.


Raiders HC Dennis Allen names QB Terrelle Pryor as the starter vs. Chargers. Wow.


As per Adam Caplan
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from the Raiders Twitter http://twitter.com/RAIDERS/status/284757348122259457
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCOUGHMAN wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
Pryor is starting.

Head Coach Dennis Allen names @TerrellePryor starting QB for Sunday.


got link?


I posted it in the gdt homie
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@ jtagg, zoom and others just curious whats your top 10 all time qb list look like.

not really in any order

montana, brady, big ben, peyton, bradshaw, jim kelly, troy, eli, elway, steve young

hm: marino, arod, brees

note i didnt add the old guys like bart star and jonny u cause im only 31


Marino is undoubtedly better than the guys I bolded. I'd take him over Elway, too. Favre is better than all the guys I bolded, too. I'd take Kurt Warner over them as well.


if i had a championship game to play id ride or die with my top 10 over marino, farve and kurt anyday. farve and kurt would be in the hm though.


LOL Jim Kelly.... the guy who went 4 times and his team never won..............

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bradshaw is arguably the most clutch qb ever esp in the playoffs imo where it counts the most.

bradshaw was a stud dont sleep on the guy. 30 playoff tds and you still think he didnt play a huge role in those SB runs?


30 TDs... in 19 games (with 26 picks, too). Look at the Steeler's defense in each of Bradshaw's Super Bowl win seasons. They were ranked, 1st, 2nd, 1st and 1st in PPG allowed.

Bradshaws stats from each Super Bowl:

1975- 9/14 96 yards 1 TD score: 16-6 (D forced 6 turnovers)
1976- 9/19 209 yards 2 TD score: 21-17 (D forced 3 turnovers)
1979- 17/30 318 yards 4 TD 1 INT score: 35-31
1980- 14/21 309 yards 2 TD 3 INT score: 31-19

75-76 look like Tebow numbers, 79 was a great game, 80 he threw more picks than TDs.

He also has 8 playoff games with more picks than TDs, 6 games completing under half his passes, and 9 games with 1 or no TD passes, and 3 games with under 100 yards passing. Thats not elite. The defense held the other team to 14 points or less in 11 of their wins. 30 TDs, 26 INTs, and a 57% completion rate in the playoffs isnt clutch IMO.
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30 TDs... in 19 games (with 26 picks, too).


THAT'S NOT 2:1!!!!! NCOUGH has said many, many, many, many, many times (when talking about Palmer mind you) that he needs to see a QB have a 2:1 TD:INT ratio before saying they're any good.

Uh ohhhhhhhh
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JTagg7754 wrote:
ZoomWaffle wrote:

30 TDs... in 19 games (with 26 picks, too).


THAT'S NOT 2:1!!!!! NCOUGH has said many, many, many, many, many times (when talking about Palmer mind you) that he needs to see a QB have a 2:1 TD:INT ratio before saying they're any good.

Uh ohhhhhhhh

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCOUGHMAN wrote:
@ jtagg, zoom and others just curious whats your top 10 all time qb list look like.

not really in any order

montana, brady, big ben, peyton, bradshaw, jim kelly, troy, eli, elway, steve young

hm: marino, arod, brees

note i didnt add the old guys like bart star and jonny u cause im only 31


No order, not including the old guys:

Montana
Brady
P. Manning
Young
Favre
Elway
Marino
Brees
Warner
Rodgers

Whether it be clutch ability, prolific passing skills, whatever, those are the top ten QBs I would want leading my team.
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I wouldn't trade Pryor for any prospect in this years draft. Quote me on that
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JTagg7754 wrote:
ZoomWaffle wrote:

30 TDs... in 19 games (with 26 picks, too).


THAT'S NOT 2:1!!!!! NCOUGH has said many, many, many, many, many times (when talking about Palmer mind you) that he needs to see a QB have a 2:1 TD:INT ratio before saying they're any good.

Uh ohhhhhhhh


Haha

I know I'll get hate for this, but QBs like Bradshaw and Aikman never did enough IMO to be a top QB. I know stats arent everything, but Aikman only threw over 19 TDs once. For all the QB W/L record people, he only posted 5 double-digit win seasons in 12 years. In those 4 seasons, Dallas defense ranked 5th, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, and 3rd. Not to mention he had a guy named Emmitt Smith. Top-5 defense, top-3 RB, and a QB with a 8:7 TD:INT ratio... wonder why they were successfull.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZoomWaffle wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
ZoomWaffle wrote:

30 TDs... in 19 games (with 26 picks, too).


THAT'S NOT 2:1!!!!! NCOUGH has said many, many, many, many, many times (when talking about Palmer mind you) that he needs to see a QB have a 2:1 TD:INT ratio before saying they're any good.

Uh ohhhhhhhh


Haha

I know I'll get hate for this, but QBs like Bradshaw and Aikman never did enough IMO to be a top QB. I know stats arent everything, but Aikman only threw over 19 TDs once. For all the QB W/L record people, he only posted 5 double-digit win seasons in 12 years. In those 4 seasons, Dallas defense ranked 5th, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, and 3rd. Not to mention he had a guy named Emmitt Smith. Top-5 defense, top-3 RB, and a QB with a 8:7 TD:INT ratio... wonder why they were successfull.


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