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PTown Raider


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Help with DT position Reply with quote

Can I get some help with this years DT's? Where is there true value? What spots should they be taken in? The reason I ask is I am really hoping we are able to trade down to get more picks and fill more holes, but if Star is a stud and the next DT is just average I don't want to miss out on a 10 year anchor on defense for a second round pick. First time poster so help me out if i am doing something wrong. Thanks for the help.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are several "above average" DT's this season. None, imo have shown they are once in a decade type players. Almost anywhere in the 1st round we should be able to get one of them.

Then of course there are those guys you can get later on that are better than expected.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would say one of the best things the raiders have done in previous drafts is find decent dline late in the draft, or its one of the few things we did well maybe Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you can gamble on Lotulelei and if you're lucky you get a difference maker at the position, which is hard to find imo. But i wouldn't, even Suh isn't making that much of an impact and he was a much better prospect. I think DT is a spot you can fill with role players.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="oakdb36"]I think you can gamble on Lotulelei and if you're lucky you get a difference maker at the position, which is hard to find imo. But i wouldn't, even Suh isn't making that much of an impact and he was a much better prospect. I think DT is a spot you can fill with role players.[/quote

I agree, its easier to get by with role players at DT then it is with role players rushing the passer. One of the reasons I'm not on the draft Star bandwagon.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I've cooled off big time on Star Lotulelei. Personally, I'de prefer to trade down and either land Werner or try to get 2 firsts
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
Yeah I've cooled off big time on Star Lotulelei. Personally, I'de prefer to trade down and either land Werner or try to get 2 firsts


Yeah move down to the 9-12 range, acquire a couple more picks and take Werner.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd sign Dorsey and put him at his natural position. Can always draft a NT in the mid to late rounds. The Ends are what need repairing. In the past they relied on pressure up the middle and when it never came the D couldn't get near the QB.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people have Werner ranked top 5 in the draft, can't move too far down. He is going to tear up the combine too.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:52 am    Post subject: Re: Help with DT position Reply with quote

PTown Raider wrote:
Can I get some help with this years DT's? Where is there true value? What spots should they be taken in? The reason I ask is I am really hoping we are able to trade down to get more picks and fill more holes, but if Star is a stud and the next DT is just average I don't want to miss out on a 10 year anchor on defense for a second round pick. First time poster so help me out if i am doing something wrong. Thanks for the help.


With Seymour all but gone, the Raiders desperately need a penetrating DT. NT can be filled cheaply in FA. Trade down and draft Mizzu DT Sheldon Richardson or stay put and draft OT Luke Joeckel. Take your pick.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really hope we draft Sheldon Richardson he has future star written all over him.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RaiderX wrote:
I'd sign Dorsey and put him at his natural position. Can always draft a NT in the mid to late rounds. The Ends are what need repairing. In the past they relied on pressure up the middle and when it never came the D couldn't get near the QB.


+1

Having Dorsey inside at the 3 with Billukidi on the nose would be fine with me. In fact, we still have Desmond Bryant inside too. And the Raiders have always done a good job in the 4th thru 6th rounds with inside guys on defense. Or if you want to go higher a guy like Jesse Williams from Alabama could be had in the lower 2nd or high 3rd. Same for Kawann Short from Purdue. So there is really no need to go round one for a DT.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RaiderX wrote:
I'd sign Dorsey and put him at his natural position. Can always draft a NT in the mid to late rounds. The Ends are what need repairing. In the past they relied on pressure up the middle and when it never came the D couldn't get near the QB.

He's a FA this year? I'd love him just to see what he'd look like playing where he's supposed to
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that would be everyone's thought. He has been playing out of position his entire career.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DT is deep in this draft. The Raiders are in good position to fill that need in later rounds.

I'm all in on Werner. That's my horse in this race. IMO, he's the biggest, baddest defensive player in this draft along the front 7.
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