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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:11 am    Post subject: Rebuild Blueprint Reply with quote

Re-Building Jets Year 1:

Key Goals:
1. Prioritize Versatility especially on Defense. Draft Players that fit Rex's Current Scheme with ability to transition into 4-3 Under should that be the chosen route in 2013.

2. Make Short-Term Decisions with Long-Term Outlook. Sign & even Draft younger players. Evaluate Veteran Core with 1 question in Mind: Does X Player contribute to the Next Super Bowl Win. Eye on 2015-2017 as Window of Contention.

3. Build Future Core. Consider trading Current Core if value can be returned.

Current Core:
QB Mark Sanchez -26- (UFA 2017)
WR Santonio Holmes -29- (UFA 2016)
OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson -29- (UFA 2018)
C Nick Mangold -29- (UFA 2018)
LB David Harris -30- (UFA 2015)
CB Antonio Cromartie -29- (UFA 2015)
CB Darrelle Revis -28- (UFA 2014)

Future Core Players:
WR Stephen Hill -22- (UFA 2016)
DE Quinton Coples -23- (UFA 2016 w/ Option)
DL Muhammad Wilkerson -23- (UFA 2015 w/ Option)
LB Damario Davis -24- (UFA 2016)

Emphasizing the 2015-2017 Contention Window, Mangold & Ferguson will have to be monitored to see if they're still Core Players. The Future Core emphasizes the lack of key parts in place for the future. This puts an added emphasis on accumulating Draft Picks.

2014 UFAs:
RB Joe McKnight
TE Jeff Cumberland
OT Austin HOward
OG Willie Colon
OG Vlad Ducasse
CB Ellis Lankster
CB Darrelle Revis
S Eric Smith

2013 Outlook:


Mark Sanchez will be given one last opportunity to prove he's the longterm solution at Quarterback. Rather than adding a Rookie in the draft, the rest of the team should be overhauled. Look at the Seahawks model. Rebuilding both Front 7s & then add the young Quarterback. Garrard should be given the opportunity to "Compete". Ultimately Tim Tebow needs to be Released. The 3rd QB spot should come down to a Camp Competition between Greg McElroy & a UDFA.

Mike Goodson will likely be the starter after signing a lucrative multi year deal.

Joe McKnight is a UFA following 2013. Has not shown enough on offense to warrant extension talks. Combination of Mike Goodson & Bilal Powell is adequate. Rather than investing a high pick in a non-premium position, a late round flyer should be taken to compete for a roster spot. At Fullback, Lex Hilliard should compete with a UDFA in Training Camp.

Santonio Holmes' return adds talent to the corps. Jeremy Kerley was productive out of the slot in 2012 & should return in that role. Stephen Hill must have a productive offseason. There's a real question about his ability to excel in the new system. Young & Unproven players should be signed to Future-Reserve Contracts to Compete for roster spots.

Loss of Keller creates a void. But at 28 & with an injury riddled past, moving forward is a logical outcome. Reuland & Cumberland are two unspectacular players. Finding a quality TE is necessary in Mornhinweg's scheme.

Signing of Willie Colon is how NFL Teams create competition. Both Colon & Ducase are represented by Joe Linta. Should Ducasse struggle, Colon is a veteran option. With Ducasse a UFA following 2013, his longterm status with the team remains a question mark. Ferguson & Mangold return to man their respective positions. The Right Tackle spot returns Austin Howard, who had a strong 2012. Does his play warrant considering a longterm pact? He'll have to continue to improve in 2013 to make that route justifiable.


Coples & Wilkerson must be Core Players for this overhaul to be successful. With the latter, he's well on his way to stardom. The next player that must have a prominent role is Kendrick Ellis. After spending time behind Pouha, he needs to be the full-time nose tackle in 2013.

Including Damario Davis in "Core Players", he must be given every opportunity to Start in 2013. David Harris is overpaid but productive. Likely not willing to take a pay cut, we should look to the 2014 offseason to Release Harris. Major voids exist on the Outside. McIntyre is a role player & Ricky Sapp is an unproven albeit talented player.

Revis rightfully deserves the most consideration, but if the decision to move forward without Revis is pursued- longterm decisions must be made at Corner. Kyle Wilson's Representatives should be approached about a potential extension. Set to turn 26 in May, he could be discouraged by the CB numbers on the open market in FA & sign an extension.

Josh Bush (24- UFA 2016) & Antonio Allen (24- UFA 2016) should be given the opportunity to compete for starting positions at safety. Win Now would necessitate a veteran signing. With Landry, Bell & Smith gone- these two players should be allowed to compete w/ Jaiquawn Jarrett (23- UFA 2015) & potentially a Draftee or UDFA. Ideally, at least 1 of these players becomes a quality starter at Safety.

Pre-Draft Trade:
Woody Johnson recently emphasized an extension with Revis would be considered based on John Idzik's recommendation. This stance helps Idzik with leverage in trade negotiations. However, it's pretty evident the Jets do not feel comfortable extending Revis beyond 2013. Simply- Revis must be moved. I feel the logical landing spot is Atlanta.

Initial Trade Proposal to GM Thomas Dimitroff:
CB Darrelle Revis for 2013 Selections 31 & 92. Also request a 2013 2nd Round Selection.

Settle for:
Darrelle Revis to Atlanta for 2013 Selections 30, 127 & a 2014 Contingent Selection.

Terms of Contingent Selection:
1. If Revis plays 70% of Teams Defensive Snaps, Jets receiver a 2014 5th Round Selection.
2. If Revis plays 70% of Teams Defensive Snaps & Falcons make Postseason, Jets receive 4th Round Selection.
3. If Revis plays 70% of Teams Defensive Snaps & Falcons win Playoff Game, Jets Receive 3rd Round Selection.
4. If Revis plays in a Super Bowl in 2014, Jets receive 2nd Round Selection.

WR Brandon Tate -25- (2 Years 2.0 M w/ 400 K Guaranteed)
OT Khalif Barnes -31- (1 Year 810 K Veterans Minimum)
DL Vaughn Martin -27- (2 Years 2.0 M w/ 800 K Guaranteed)
LB Victor Butler -26- (3 Years 6.0 M w/ 2.0 M Guaranteed)
CB William Middleton -27- (2 Years 2.5 M w/ 1.0 M Guaranteed)
DB Sherrod Martin -27- (1 Year 850 K Fully Guaranteed)

2013 NFL Draft:

Trade Picks 9 + 181 (1,369) to Tampa Bay for Picks 13 + 73 (1,375)
- Bucs lost both Defensive Ends & Look to move ahead of Tennessee to grab either Barkevious Mingo, Ezekiel Ansah or Dion Jordan.
Pick 38 (520) to Seattle for Picks 55, 87 (505) + 2014 5th.

13. Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M
30. Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
55. Logan Ryan CB Rutgers
72. Larry Warford OG Kentucky
73. Cornelius 'Tank' Carradine DE Florida State
87. Roger Gaines OT Tennessee State
106. Marcus Davis WR Virginia Tech
127. Tony Jefferson S Oklahoma
141. Mike Catapano DT Princeton
219. Caleb Schreibeis LB Montana State (Fullback)

QB Mike Hermann RPI
RB Jemaine Cook Youngstown State
RB Wayshaun Easley Jacksonville State
RB Montel Harris Temple
FB Ryan Clarke West Virginia
WR Xavier Boyce Norfolk State
TE Josh Hill Idaho State
TE D.C. Jefferson Rutgers
OT Dan O'Neill Western Michigan
OL Mike Golic Jr Notre Dame
DL Craig Roh Michigan
DL Larry Webster Bloomsburg
LB Charles Dieuseul Mount Union
LB Willie Jefferson Stephen F Austin
LB Robert McCabe Georgetown
CB Charles James Charleston Southern
CB David James Webster State
CB Tony Tatum Gallaudet
S Freddy Young New Mexico State
P Scott Kovanda Ball State
LS Patrick Greene Ohio State

PUP & Potentially IR:
DE Cornelius 'Tank' Carradine

2013 Depth Chart:
QB: Mark Sanchez, David Garrard, Mike Hermann
RB: Mike Goodson, Bilal Powell, Joe McKnight
FB: Caleb Schreibeis, Lex Hilliard
WR: Santonio Holmes, Jeremy Kerley, Marcus Davis
WR: Stephen Hill, Brandon Tate, Xavier Boyce
TE: Tyler Eifert, Jeff Cumberland, Konrad Reuland
LT: D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Khalif Barnes
LG: Vlad Ducasse, Willie Colon
OC: Nick Mangold
RG: Larry Warford, Caleb Schlauderaff
RT: Austin Howard, Roger Gaines

LE: Muhammad Wilkerson, Vaughn Martin, Mike Catapano
NT: Kendrick Ellis, Antonio Garay
RE: Quinton Coples, Jaye Howard (Waivers- Seattle)
SB: Garrett McIntyre, Ricky Sapp, Claude Davis
IB: Demario Davis, Nick Bellore
MB: David Harris, Victor Butler
WB: Damontre Moore, Willie Jefferson
LC: Antonio Cromartie, Logan Ryan, Cliff Harris
RC: Kyle Wilson, William Middleton, Ellis Lankster
FS: Tony Jefferson, Sherrod Martin
SS: Josh Bush, Antonio Allen

K: Nick Folk
P: Scott Kovanda
LS: Patrick Greene

Following 2013, we will be in a market for a new Coach. Following league trends, we will look for a young Offense minded coordinator.

Potential Targets:
Pete Carmichael Jr -42- (Saints OC)
Adam Gase -35- (Broncos OC)
Jay Gruden -47- (Bengals OC)
Pep Hamilton -39- (Colts OC)
Todd Haley -47- (Steelers OC)
Kyle Shanahan -34- (Redskins OC)
David Shaw -41- (Stanford HC)
Ken Whisenhunt -52- (Chargers OC)

Ideally, David Shaw would be next Jets Head Coach. If he's not willing to take the position (Waiting for Giants?), Kyle Shanahan is a tremendous young offensive mind. If leadership skills are lacking due to Kyle's youth, Ken Whisenhunt is a capable coach that utilizes a scheme I would prefer longterm that emphasizes vertical passing.
I'm The guy who got shunned on FFs for arguing J.J. Watt should be selected 1st Overall in the 2011 Draft. I also thought Gabe Carimi would be a Perennial Pro Bowler. Live & Learn
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You went to an amazing amount of effort and kudos to you.. BUT.. when the first paragraph includes the words 'Rex Ryan', then you really aren't rebuilding at all.. he's got to go.. then you can rebuild.
People say my attention strays but they're wrong. HEY LOOK..A ROASTED CHICKEN!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The point is Rex is in place for 2013. You need to build around him.
I'm The guy who got shunned on FFs for arguing J.J. Watt should be selected 1st Overall in the 2011 Draft. I also thought Gabe Carimi would be a Perennial Pro Bowler. Live & Learn
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really great effort put into this.

With the exception of Eifert I don't love this draft.
Wasn't a Moore fan even before his subpar combine. I think there is a lot of talent available in the top 4 rounds that you don't really tap into.

That said, your plans and ideals for the future are pretty much spot on - need to start looking forward in all facets of this team. Not that 2013/2014 should be wastes, bc i think a team can be competitive any given year, but all signings/draftings should be with a team building mindset, not a "win-now" mindset (which I think Idzik knows).
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good work but NO

[quote="Ring Worm Sherm"]Revis hasn't done jack since 09[/quote]Fly-A-Jet 2013 Jeremy Kerley
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