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raidr4life
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Before the season started there was one thing Raider Nation agreed on which is rare and that was we all thought Knapp was a bad hire too bad we were right.
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OakRaiders3828
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| BuckSavage wrote: | | I think there's still a chance Allen gets fired this off-season. |
I don't
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| OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | BuckSavage wrote: | | I think there's still a chance Allen gets fired this off-season. |
I don't |
I do. Im certain his evaluation isn't finished.
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raidr4life
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| BuckSavage wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | BuckSavage wrote: | | I think there's still a chance Allen gets fired this off-season. |
I don't |
I do. Im certain his evaluation isn't finished. |
If you been evaluating yourself you notice that the defense has improved and this team has continued to play hard for him that bodes well for his return. The front office knows we are short on talent so he will get another year.
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Rolni
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| BuckSavage wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | BuckSavage wrote: | | I think there's still a chance Allen gets fired this off-season. |
I don't |
I do. Im certain his evaluation isn't finished. |
He is safe. Get over it.
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big_palooka
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| TiberiusRising wrote: | | SilverNBlackFan wrote: | | Words can't desribe how much I hated greg knapp and his terrible offense. Glad allen and company weren't stubborn and cut bait. |
Hasnt happened yet.
My biggest question is will we stick with WCO offense as Allen has said from day1 or will he be willing to use a different offense? |
My question is why does it matter? Your a defensive minded HC. You should simply want the best coach who can call the plays and put the players in position to do what they do best and take that off your plate.
If the team is scoring points, who cares what the scheme is honestly. Go with what works, period.
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big_palooka
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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On Allen and Tarver.
I'm impressed honestly. It was never going to go BOOM from the start. It was a work in progress. Injuries early didn't help. As the season progressed, they improved.
You've seen players buying in on defense. Players are swarming the ball and playing with high energy. There was no quit in them. They've also identified some young players who starting rounding into form Ross, Kidi. Found Gaither off the street who improved the MLB spot. Had Houston and Bryant really fired up and playing well.
I see the vision on defense. The talent isn't their yet, but a couple good pieces and they will start really clicking IMO.
Offense, disaster. There is talent there, just needs a coach who understands it. 3rd and 1. Slow developing outside run, works every time. 
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dawsonleery
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| Norv Turner would be the best hire. Make him asst Head Coach and give him complete control of the offense. Norv is a Cali guy so we do have a chance. Just pay the man! |
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JTagg7754
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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WOOHOO!!!!!!
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TiberiusRising
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| big_palooka wrote: | | TiberiusRising wrote: | | SilverNBlackFan wrote: | | Words can't desribe how much I hated greg knapp and his terrible offense. Glad allen and company weren't stubborn and cut bait. |
Hasnt happened yet.
My biggest question is will we stick with WCO offense as Allen has said from day1 or will he be willing to use a different offense? |
My question is why does it matter? Your a defensive minded HC. You should simply want the best coach who can call the plays and put the players in position to do what they do best and take that off your plate.
If the team is scoring points, who cares what the scheme is honestly. Go with what works, period. |
I completly agree with you. But for some reason him and Reggie have been adament about the WCO.
I think Chan Gailey is a guy who would work here. Had pretty good offenses going with other duties in Buff and they dont really have super talented playmakers. Coached under Dan Reeves tree as well so I could see Reeves recomending him to Allen. I wouldnt mind if he brought Levitre with him either. |
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big_palooka
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| TiberiusRising wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | | TiberiusRising wrote: | | SilverNBlackFan wrote: | | Words can't desribe how much I hated greg knapp and his terrible offense. Glad allen and company weren't stubborn and cut bait. |
Hasnt happened yet.
My biggest question is will we stick with WCO offense as Allen has said from day1 or will he be willing to use a different offense? |
My question is why does it matter? Your a defensive minded HC. You should simply want the best coach who can call the plays and put the players in position to do what they do best and take that off your plate.
If the team is scoring points, who cares what the scheme is honestly. Go with what works, period. |
I completly agree with you. But for some reason him and Reggie have been adament about the WCO.
I think Chan Gailey is a guy who would work here. Had pretty good offenses going with other duties in Buff and they dont really have super talented playmakers. Coached under Dan Reeves tree as well so I could see Reeves recomending him to Allen. I wouldnt mind if he brought Levitre with him either. |
Oh now your just being silly.......... 
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91jmay
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Chan Gailey would be a nice OC. Also ran some pistol O as well in KC for all you TP fans 
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dawsonleery
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| Yeah, both Allen and McKenzie seem to be big fans of the WCO and ZBS. They both have a history of being around it. But its clearly not a fit in Oakland. It going to be interesting to see what happens. |
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TiberiusRising
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| 91jmay wrote: | | Chan Gailey would be a nice OC. Also ran some pistol O as well in KC for all you TP fans |
Come to think of it we should get JoeD'Alessandris from Buff for our OL. Made Pears look like a starter. |
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BigD1123
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Gaily had Spiller and didnt use him. That kid is crazy good. He is a good guy too. Never understood that. Id love to swap d Mac for spiller |
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