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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only Giant to make the team was David Wilson...lol
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Timmons not being on either team is a joke. Even Jerod Mayo got more votes than Lawrence Timmons Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J-ALL-DAY wrote:
Bowman showed last year without Willis he was still great. As for Aldon, it's not like he even got a sack in the Patriots game WITH Justin Smith. The man issue is he is banged up and not as explosive as he was before the Miami game. During the 2nd half of that game, he hurt his shoulder and did the same against the Patriots.


Again, the arugment isnt what he can do with/without Willis. It's that he has an insane amount of talent around him. Larry Grant played like an All-Pro in that unit.
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Yes, Victor Cruz is a bigger asset to a QB than Antonio Brown is. Id be hard-pressed to find many people that would take the latter.


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Cruz wasnt even an HM
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ErnestoGuevara wrote:
Timmons not being on either team is a joke. Even Jerod Mayo got more votes than Lawrence Timmons Laughing Laughing


To be fair, Mayo had a really good year. But yes, Timmons should be on the team, I don't know how old man London made it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

game3525 wrote:
ErnestoGuevara wrote:
Timmons not being on either team is a joke. Even Jerod Mayo got more votes than Lawrence Timmons Laughing Laughing


To be fair, Mayo had a really good year. But yes, Timmons should be on the team, I don't know how old man London made it.

Mayo might have had a good year, but Timmons' was far better.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add this to the list of NFL jokes:

Pro Bowl - check
MVP - check
All Pros - check
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antonio Cromartie got snubbed. Mo Wilkerson didn't even get a single vote? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dalton wrote:
Add this to the list of NFL jokes:

Pro Bowl - check
MVP - check
All Pros - check

Why doesn't FF do one? I'm sure it would be way better, at the very least more discussion.
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ErnestoGuevara wrote:
Dalton wrote:
Add this to the list of NFL jokes:

Pro Bowl - check
MVP - check
All Pros - check

Why doesn't FF do one? I'm sure it would be way better, at the very least more discussion.


We usually do because the Associated Press usually messes up the Award Votes, the All-Pro teams and the world just messes up the Pro BOwl.
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Yes, Victor Cruz is a bigger asset to a QB than Antonio Brown is. Id be hard-pressed to find many people that would take the latter.


JerseysFinest27 wrote:
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Cruz wasnt even an HM
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlaqOptic wrote:
Again, the arugment isnt what he can do with/without Willis. It's that he has an insane amount of talent around him. Larry Grant played like an All-Pro in that unit.


I guess we will never find out, but I'm willing to bet he'd be elite regardless of the talent around him. Arguably the best coverage ILB, and great speed/awareness.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it such a joke that Manning made it over Rodgers? Their numbers were pretty similar.

I do find it pretty insulting to Rodgers and Brady though that they got so few votes. It should have been much closer.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evan Mathis nearly made the team!! He had 5 votes, Mankins had 7. Mathis actually deserved to be an all-pro this year IMO because guard position seems rather weak right now, he certainly should have made it over Mankins.
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Joe_is_the_best wrote:
Why is it such a joke that Manning made it over Rodgers? Their numbers were pretty similar.

I do find it pretty insulting to Rodgers and Brady though that they got so few votes. It should have been much closer.


Because Rodgers has 4 more total touchdowns, 1 less turnover, and only 200 less total yards despite playing behind a terrible offensive line and missing lots of his weapons...

I'm not saying Manning was deserving of not votes but the media clearly had it stuck in their minds that they "wronged" Peyton by thinking he couldn't come back. Conversely those who were "right" in thinking he'd be back are simultaneously thumping their chests. It creates an amalgamation of Peyton vote givers for the wrong reasons.
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Yes, Victor Cruz is a bigger asset to a QB than Antonio Brown is. Id be hard-pressed to find many people that would take the latter.


JerseysFinest27 wrote:
10. Antonio Brown


Cruz wasnt even an HM
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Dalton wrote:
Add this to the list of NFL jokes:

Pro Bowl - check
MVP - check
All Pros - check
The All-Pro is so much better than the pro bowl. There will always be guys who had awesome years that weren't fortunate enough to make it in, but at least with All-pro you end up with a list a very deserving individuals.
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I'll put the 2013 Seahawks one spot over the 2008 Steelers on the Top 10
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ErnestoGuevara wrote:
Mayo might have had a good year, but Timmons' was far better.
They also shouldn't be compared at all because Mayo played the entire year at 4-3 OLB. If Chad Greenway is an OLB, then Mayo is an OLB. And if Mayo had gotten the same number of votes at OLB that he did at ILB, then he would have made the second team.
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