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Ermertne
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| GmenSeattle wrote: | | Ermertne wrote: | | And when you say 'elite' Steve Smith was not in that category with elite WR Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald are elite... Steve Smith is just a one year wonder main because Burress was gone and are only receiver |
Hakeem Nicks isn't a WR? News to me. Manningham had an even better year than Nicks. Combined they had over 1500 yards. Steve Smith did well because he was great with Eli |
I forgot he was on the team Mybad but he was a rookie and Manningham hadn't broke out yet and yes it was because of Eli Steve was good |
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Gmen4ev
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Yes ... all yes of it
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GEE MEN
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If his knee checks out, a T2 type contract. I really wish that he was healthy. The team overall seems to tackle and play better when he's out there. I am afraid his 80 year old knees are shot.
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| Desperado82 wrote: | | I will never defend Romo again. I'm done. We may only have a shot at the playoffs or what have you because of him, but he will NEVER put us over the hump. |
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redsoxsuck05
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| dkebones wrote: | | Ermertne wrote: | | dkebones wrote: | | Ermertne wrote: | | Acgott wrote: | | Ermertne wrote: | | Going into this past year he was one of the best safeties in the NFL and I heard the Cowboys are gonna make run for him I'd be seriously mad if he did our defense is so much better with him in and if I can recall he was out for the falcons and the Ravens game and started when they played the eagles, Packers and saints... Bottom line is he makes the defense better |
No doubt he makes our defense much better, but we cannot use big money on players with major injury concerns |
Yea I agree they should try and make it team friendly but also keep in mind that he's an elite safety |
I think i will trust JRs judgment (financial, medical, etc) as to conviction of signing him, just as he did with Steve Smith.
Steve Smith with Giants= elite receiver.
Steve Smith chasing the money = 25 total receptions in two seasons.... |
I trust JR's choices but kenny already proven and it's not like he went on I.R this year |
how was Steve Smith not proven? and Kenny is still dealing with the same microfracture procedure as Smith was. the fact of the matter is that Philips is still a good player, absolutely worthwhile to have on the team, but he has not been the same player since the injury. |
Kenny Phillips has still played very well even after the surgery. I think Smith's struggles have more to do with his loss of athleticism than leaving the Giants.
And to suggest that a receiver who shattered the team reception record was a product of Eli is just ridiculous. He was on his way to another 100 catch, 1000+ yard season if it weren't for injuries.
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HakeemTheDream
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| reckless123 wrote: | | he makes our defense leaps and bounds better, evident in the games he played this year. We must resign him, must. And is it me or are some people kinda exaggerating his injury concerns a bit. Prior to this year he had missed one game in 2 years. |
Agree completely. Kenny Phillips is, in my opinion, the most important player outside of the DL. His deep coverage skills are really needed, as we saw this year when our team got torched when he missed games. I think the Giants need to offer him an incentive-laden deal where he gets paid like a top 8 safety if he plays the majority of the games. You made a great point about his injury concerns too. He's really only been injured twice in 4 years.
Also a thought I had that nobody has mentioned... what about giving him the franchise tag? The projected number for a safety is $6.5 million (TE is $5.6; OL is $9.3). If he hits the open market as the best safety available, he is going to get at least that, if not more.I'd prefer the Giants lock KP up long-term, but tagging him to make sure he returns next year would be a great idea.
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Ermertne
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| HakeemTheDream wrote: | | reckless123 wrote: | | he makes our defense leaps and bounds better, evident in the games he played this year. We must resign him, must. And is it me or are some people kinda exaggerating his injury concerns a bit. Prior to this year he had missed one game in 2 years. |
Agree completely. Kenny Phillips is, in my opinion, the most important player outside of the DL. His deep coverage skills are really needed, as we saw this year when our team got torched when he missed games. I think the Giants need to offer him an incentive-laden deal where he gets paid like a top 8 safety if he plays the majority of the games. You made a great point about his injury concerns too. He's really only been injured twice in 4 years.
Also a thought I had that nobody has mentioned... what about giving him the franchise tag? The projected number for a safety is $6.5 million (TE is $5.6; OL is $9.3). If he hits the open market as the best safety available, he is going to get at least that, if not more.I'd prefer the Giants lock KP up long-term, but tagging him to make sure he returns next year would be a great idea. |
I didn't even think about the franchise tag but I agree with everything he should be locked up long term |
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