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What to do with the PAT?
Move line of scrimmage to 20 yard line.
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Make like 2 point convert but closer to goaline.
0%
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Eliminate altogether, only have 2 point convert
23%
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Other.
35%
 35%  [ 6 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:56 pm    Post subject: How should the PAT be altered? Reply with quote

This hasn't been posted in a while and considering the Pats/Ravens game is a 1 point different because of PATs, maybe it's a nice reason to start another of these.



Belichick suggested a couple years ago on moving the PAT to the 20 yard line resulting in a 37-39 yard field goal. 30-40 yard fields are statistically in the 93% success rate, although I imagine it's less for 37+ yarders but still in the 90% range of likely.


Another option has been suggested as having just two play ins, like the 2-point convert except for 1 point it's at the 1 yard line and the 2 point convert is at the 3.



A final option is of course having no 1 point option at all and only having the 2 point convert.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was forced to change it I'd move it back to the 20 yard line and make them kick from there. I don't really care either way, though. I'm fine with how it is. I wouldn't force a two point conversion.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not broken the way it is. Don't change nothing.


changing the "Goal to go" line based on what the offense wants to do is stupid, and emilinates the fake.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if they want the 1 point they should just be able to take it but if they want to go for 2 then they have to declare that and run a 2PT attempt play. That would avoid the pointless PAT attempts since almost all are made anyways and remove the possibility of injuries occurring on the play.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give teams the option to either take the one point automatically or to choose to go for two.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont see the point in changing this.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sciz wrote:
Give teams the option to either take the one point automatically
This is a terrible idea.

A decent amount of extra points gets blocked or missed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, x0x, but I don't see any reason to change how it is already.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From 2004-2008 the PAT% was 99.05.

It's better now:

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Since the start of the 2009 season, all but 22 of 3,186 extra points have been converted, according to Elias Sports Bureau. That's 99.3 percent.


No other play in the NFL has NEAR the same success rate.

It is absolutely pointless. When a guy like Belichick says it's pointless, we should all listen.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carnageehw wrote:
Sciz wrote:
Give teams the option to either take the one point automatically
This is a terrible idea.

A decent amount of extra points gets blocked or missed.
Do you have a "decent" chance of flipping 7 heads in a row? It's about the same probability.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sciz wrote:
carnageehw wrote:
Sciz wrote:
Give teams the option to either take the one point automatically
This is a terrible idea.

A decent amount of extra points gets blocked or missed.
Do you have a "decent" chance of flipping 7 heads in a row? It's about the same probability.


99.3% is more like rolling heads 298 out of 300 times.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 yard line
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

x0x wrote:
Sciz wrote:
carnageehw wrote:
Sciz wrote:
Give teams the option to either take the one point automatically
This is a terrible idea.

A decent amount of extra points gets blocked or missed.
Do you have a "decent" chance of flipping 7 heads in a row? It's about the same probability.


99.3% is more like rolling heads 298 out of 300 times.
you're kidding, right?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bungleodeon wrote:
x0x wrote:
Sciz wrote:
carnageehw wrote:
Sciz wrote:
Give teams the option to either take the one point automatically
This is a terrible idea.

A decent amount of extra points gets blocked or missed.
Do you have a "decent" chance of flipping 7 heads in a row? It's about the same probability.


99.3% is more
e like rolling heads 298 out of 300 times.
you're kidding, right?


298 divided by 300=99.33%
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2-point conversion or nothing.
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