Redskins interested in Revis? Trade suggestions here!

turtle28 · Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:30 pm Post subject:

^^ no it's not Bruce or Mike. I'm actually Dan Snyder and I sign the checks, so listen to what I say! Laughing

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aceinthehouse · Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 2466

I've updated the thread & post.
This is now a "Trade for Revis" thread.

Anyways...I sweetened the pot on my earlier trade for Revis.
This is my trade prediction and I'm rolling with it.
(until I'm wrong..lol)

So I'll stick with my prediction:
Redskins= OLB Brian Orakpo & Kirk Cousins & a 2013 3rd rd pick
for
Jets= D.Revis & Tim Tebow & a Jets 2013 5th rd pick

Btw..i posted an article that says we are targeting Revis.
You're welcome, thanks!
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TKellion · Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 1088 Location: Las Vegas Nevada

No thank you on that trade Laughing

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DCRED · Joined: 07 Jun 2010 Posts: 2352 Location: USA

that trade is gross
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turtle28 · Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:36 am Post subject:

I agree DCRED, the trade got worse! We aren't trading Brian Orakpo it does not make our team better and he doesn't have much value because of tearing his pec two years in a row. Trading Cousins is even dumber considering Rg3s injury.

Then on top of that we are trading for a cb who is coming off a serious knee injury and one of the worst statistical qbs in the NFL.

Kyle Shanahan couldn't live with McNabb and you think he'll want Tebow? Please think

We can't even afford Revis. Here is what he's asking for in a new contract:
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4155/darrelle-revis

mike23md · Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 6501

First of all, Tebow has said that he wants to play QB and wants to start or at least compete for a starting role. He couldnt start over Sanchez or McElroy so what does that tell you.

Cannot see this happening in any capacity. But in the off season we can all be dreamers. Twisted Evil

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turtle28 · Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:33 am Post subject:

aceinthehouse · Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 2466

Let me explain why I don't believe this is a Carrato move.

I love Orakpo as much as the next guy, by my fellow Redskins fans on this board and other boards overrate Orakpo. Yes...I'm saying it! I think Brian Orakpo is overrated.

He's a very good pass rusher, but he only has 1 or 2 moves tops.
But even so...he's not even the best Pass Rushing LBer in our very own Division.

He's also good, at batting balls down at the line of scrimmage. This is an important trait to have. No..he's not close to a J.J. Watt, but Orakpo does get his hands on the ball and bats them down.

He's very quick and agile for a 260+ lb LBer.
(He's also a very good tackler, but I don't count that. You should be expected to tackle well as a Positional LBer, imo)

Those are his 3 BEST attributes that he has and what he gives to us, as a Defensive player.

Now to the 3 things Orakpo is NOT good at.
Although he's a good tackler as I pointed out, he is NOT very good in run support. I've seen guys run right by him on occasion and was mystified. Is it because he's asked to pass rush so much? probably...But his awareness concerns me in that regard.

He is lousy in pass coverage. This is one thing that must have Haslett pulling his hair out. Not being able to roll Orakpo into pass coverage on certain 3rd down situations, because Orakpo has no Shiftiness in coverage for as athletic as he is for a big man.

He is not good at causing turnovers...period!
Orakpo has 6 forced fumbles in in 4 seasons.
Kerrigan has 6 in 2 seasons.

Orakpo has 0 INT's in his 4 years here.
Kerrigan not only has 2, but both went for TD's. (which Orakpo has 0 of as well)

Now lets go to Orakpos bread & butter...
Sacks!

Orakpo has 29.5 sacks in 4 years. (11, 8.5, 9 & 1)
Kerrigan has 16 in just 2. (7.5 & then 8.5)

tackles or Combined tackles?
Orakpo has 112 tackles & 170 combined tackles in 4 years.
Kerrigan has 83 tackles or 117 combined tackles.

Kerrigan gets us more production in tackles every season, than Orakpo.
I probably don't even need to look at London's production, to compare.

My point is fellow redskins fans...
Orakpo is good, but not GREAT.
He's very expendable, guys.

If anything...I would almost be more concerned about me wanting to trade Cousins than Orakpo.
He's probably more valuable to us right now, with RG3's uncertainty.

But I'm basing my trade proposal on RG3 coming back healthy.
Which I think he will be...

if that's the case and RG3 can remain healthy for a season...which we all better hope and pray he will be.

Then that's makes Cousins expendable as well and his value as high...as you're going to see it with him in a redskins uniform.

Cause the dude is walking, once he's a free agent and his contract is up.

WHY NOT use him as leverage to get the best CB in football on the Redskins??

If we restructured Hall, which we plan to do no matter the moves we make this season.
We could keep HALL, WIlson and have Revis as our main CB's on the roster.
That's a deadly trio, IMO. We could run a lot of Nickel formations on the field.
And with Philly, Giants and Dallas receivers? We could have quite the dangerous secondary for years to come.

If somehow we can get T. Jackson &/or Brandon Merriweather back, we could be quite the Defense. Or maybe we can draft some good Safety?

Now on to Tim Tebow.
i think this dude as been wrongly perceived and labeled a bad QB, when the facts just don't match up AT ALL.

Is he a high percentage, high quality efficient QB? No

But I have no doubt, that in the right system for him. He could be a quality player & backup at a minimum.

The Pistol wouldn't require that many reads for him and his body can handle the punishment that an RG3 cannot.

Not to mention he has the arm for the long ball to a Moss, Hankerson or Robinson deep.

He could also be used in certain packages as a FB/RB/TE for whatever reason. Give Someone a rest...trick play..who knows?

This kind of Offense is perfect for Tebow could do and he wouldn't be expected do much in the backup role.

He would get more playing time, than he did with the Jets and he would come cheap.
Not to mention, would be a great locker room dude.

Everyone says he sucks...
All I do is laugh.
I'd like to see those same morons, do what he did in Denver.

Tebow WON"T be anything if he has to keep hopping teams every season, for whatever reason. Keep him here and develop the guy, is what i would do. Hell, bring in Shanahan's good friend Urban Myer for council if you must. Work with the dude.

I don't know what makes this trade fair according to the GM's.
Who throws in draft picks or what...

But if I knew that Revis's ACL along with RG3's would be fine and that both players would come back 100%?

I would have zero problem trading a good Orakpo & young QB in Cousins (who throws picks btw..but I do like him)
for
the best CB in the game of Darrelle Revis to shut down any WR we play.
And a QB that has been wrongfully portrayed as a bad QB ,imo in the publics eyes
to this team.

If Tebow would be ok with this situation and the public knew he was the backup, the attention would not be like it has been with Tebow.

RG3 is a stud.
Threw 5 damn INT's this year guys...

Ain't nobody gonna be chanting for Tebow after an RG3 mistake.

Cause quite frankly gentleman...He don't make many..

lol
Laughing

Let the Jets figure out how to retain Orakpo...who's gonna want to get paid, too.
Yea...bet you guys didn't think about that...did ya? (back-to-back injuries he has had)

Orakpo is a free agent after the 2013 season.

I stand by my trade idea.... Idea

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