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ArrowheadRage58
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Yeah, it'd be absolutely ridiculous, same as the Seahawks having a home game against the Saints. I dont' know which is worse, but i stilll think seedings by records would work better the majority of the time.
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stallyns
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Yeah, it'd be absolutely ridiculous, same as the Seahawks having a home game against the Saints. I dont' know which is worse, but i stilll think seedings by records would work better the majority of the time. |
so you agree with his example that goes against your argument and then point out an example that supports your argument but can't figure out which is worse? |
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ArrowheadRage58
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I don't care too much either way regarding seeding, just add 2 WC's.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| stallyns wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed. |
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game. |
Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in?
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Yeah, I don't care too much either way regarding seeding, just add 2 WC's. |
Why? If the teams aren't good enough to get in with how it is now, why should it be expanded just to allow 2 more teams in? Just to get rid of a BYE?
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Flaccomania wrote: | | stallyns wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed. |
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game. |
Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in? |
2010 Seattle Seahawks (7-9) wouldn't have gotten in on record alone without a division win |
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stallyns
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| stallyns wrote: | | Flaccomania wrote: | | stallyns wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed. |
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game. |
Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in? |
2010 Seattle Seahawks (7-9) wouldn't have gotten in on record alone without a division win |
2011 Denver Broncos (8- wouldn't have made the playoffs without a division win |
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stallyns
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| stallyns wrote: | | stallyns wrote: | | Flaccomania wrote: | | stallyns wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed. |
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game. |
Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in? |
2010 Seattle Seahawks (7-9) wouldn't have gotten in on record alone without a division win |
2011 Denver Broncos (8- wouldn't have made the playoffs without a division win |
2008 San Diego Chargers (8- same |
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stallyns
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| That's 5 seasons, 40 division winners 3 examples |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| stallyns wrote: | | That's 5 seasons, 40 division winners 3 examples |
If you're trying to minimize things, that's actually quite a lot.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Jakuvious wrote: | | stallyns wrote: | | That's 5 seasons, 40 division winners 3 examples |
If you're trying to minimize things, that's actually quite a lot. |
my numbers were off in this example but my point remains, in the past 5 years 92.5% of teams that won their division would have made the playoffs based on record alone. One could argue that getting rid of divisions would fix that anomaly but otherwise the reward for winning the division SHOULD be a home playoff game |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Going back to realignment in 2001 I didn't find any other examples. I don't expect to find any prior to that because their were 3 division winners and 3 wild cards before that. |
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Flaccomania
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| stallyns wrote: | | stallyns wrote: | | Flaccomania wrote: | | stallyns wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed. |
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game. |
Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in? |
2010 Seattle Seahawks (7-9) wouldn't have gotten in on record alone without a division win |
2011 Denver Broncos (8- wouldn't have made the playoffs without a division win |
Oh, I misunderstood you then. I thought you were saying 95-99% of the time you win your division, you get into the playoffs, as if there have been teams to win their division yet miss.
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| Flaccomania wrote: | | stallyns wrote: | | stallyns wrote: | | Flaccomania wrote: | | stallyns wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed. |
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game. |
Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in? |
2010 Seattle Seahawks (7-9) wouldn't have gotten in on record alone without a division win |
2011 Denver Broncos (8- wouldn't have made the playoffs without a division win |
Oh, I misunderstood you then. I thought you were saying 95-99% of the time you win your division, you get into the playoffs, as if there have been teams to win their division yet miss. |
Haha, that's what I thought he meant at first as well.
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ArrowheadRage58
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Flaccomania wrote: | | stallyns wrote: | | stallyns wrote: | | Flaccomania wrote: | | stallyns wrote: | | ArrowheadRage58 wrote: | | Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed. |
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game. |
Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in? |
2010 Seattle Seahawks (7-9) wouldn't have gotten in on record alone without a division win |
2011 Denver Broncos (8- wouldn't have made the playoffs without a division win |
Oh, I misunderstood you then. I thought you were saying 95-99% of the time you win your division, you get into the playoffs, as if there have been teams to win their division yet miss. |
There have been if you count ties.
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