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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it'd be absolutely ridiculous, same as the Seahawks having a home game against the Saints. I dont' know which is worse, but i stilll think seedings by records would work better the majority of the time.
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ArrowheadRage58 wrote:
Yeah, it'd be absolutely ridiculous, same as the Seahawks having a home game against the Saints. I dont' know which is worse, but i stilll think seedings by records would work better the majority of the time.
so you agree with his example that goes against your argument and then point out an example that supports your argument but can't figure out which is worse?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I don't care too much either way regarding seeding, just add 2 WC's.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed.
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game.


Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ArrowheadRage58 wrote:
Yeah, I don't care too much either way regarding seeding, just add 2 WC's.


Why? If the teams aren't good enough to get in with how it is now, why should it be expanded just to allow 2 more teams in? Just to get rid of a BYE?
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Flaccomania wrote:
stallyns wrote:
ArrowheadRage58 wrote:
Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed.
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game.


Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in?
2010 Seattle Seahawks (7-9) wouldn't have gotten in on record alone without a division win
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stallyns wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
stallyns wrote:
ArrowheadRage58 wrote:
Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed.
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game.


Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in?
2010 Seattle Seahawks (7-9) wouldn't have gotten in on record alone without a division win
2011 Denver Broncos (8-Cool wouldn't have made the playoffs without a division win
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stallyns wrote:
stallyns wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
stallyns wrote:
ArrowheadRage58 wrote:
Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed.
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game.


Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in?
2010 Seattle Seahawks (7-9) wouldn't have gotten in on record alone without a division win
2011 Denver Broncos (8-Cool wouldn't have made the playoffs without a division win
2008 San Diego Chargers (8-Cool same
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's 5 seasons, 40 division winners 3 examples
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That's 5 seasons, 40 division winners 3 examples


If you're trying to minimize things, that's actually quite a lot.
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Jakuvious wrote:
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That's 5 seasons, 40 division winners 3 examples


If you're trying to minimize things, that's actually quite a lot.
my numbers were off in this example but my point remains, in the past 5 years 92.5% of teams that won their division would have made the playoffs based on record alone. One could argue that getting rid of divisions would fix that anomaly but otherwise the reward for winning the division SHOULD be a home playoff game
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going back to realignment in 2001 I didn't find any other examples. I don't expect to find any prior to that because their were 3 division winners and 3 wild cards before that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stallyns wrote:
stallyns wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
stallyns wrote:
ArrowheadRage58 wrote:
Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed.
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game.


Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in?
2010 Seattle Seahawks (7-9) wouldn't have gotten in on record alone without a division win
2011 Denver Broncos (8-Cool wouldn't have made the playoffs without a division win


Oh, I misunderstood you then. I thought you were saying 95-99% of the time you win your division, you get into the playoffs, as if there have been teams to win their division yet miss.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flaccomania wrote:
stallyns wrote:
stallyns wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
stallyns wrote:
ArrowheadRage58 wrote:
Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed.
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game.


Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in?
2010 Seattle Seahawks (7-9) wouldn't have gotten in on record alone without a division win
2011 Denver Broncos (8-Cool wouldn't have made the playoffs without a division win


Oh, I misunderstood you then. I thought you were saying 95-99% of the time you win your division, you get into the playoffs, as if there have been teams to win their division yet miss.


Haha, that's what I thought he meant at first as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flaccomania wrote:
stallyns wrote:
stallyns wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
stallyns wrote:
ArrowheadRage58 wrote:
Winning your division should get you in, but not get you a top 4 seed.
95-99% of the time winning your division already gets you in the playoffs, by default. The reward for winning your division is a home game.


Where is that 1-5% of the time where winning their division doesn't get a team in?
2010 Seattle Seahawks (7-9) wouldn't have gotten in on record alone without a division win
2011 Denver Broncos (8-Cool wouldn't have made the playoffs without a division win


Oh, I misunderstood you then. I thought you were saying 95-99% of the time you win your division, you get into the playoffs, as if there have been teams to win their division yet miss.


There have been if you count ties.
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