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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:27 am    Post subject: Jrry32 Post Senior Bowl Mock Draft Reply with quote

Well, the Senior Bowl practice week is over so I figured I'd post a mock before the game today. This is based on what I'd do if I were running the team. I decided not to bother with the free agency. Just gonna do a draft:

Round 1 Pick #16 - Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma

Explanation: I think we're gonna have to take Lane here after the week he's had. Johnson possesses all the attributes to be a dominant NFL OT. He only will fall this far because he's raw and needs to add bulk/functional strength. Originally recruited to OU as a TE/DE after playing QB some at JC, Johnson moved to OT in 2011 becoming the starting RT. In 2012, he shifted over to the starting LT. He has great foot speed and lateral agility, excellent balance, ideal length(6'6" with 35 inch arms), is a good drive blocker in the run game and plays with a real attitude. However, he is raw technically and needs to add weight to his 302 pound frame. But he does have a lot of growth potential. And while he's raw technically, he doesn't show any overwhelming bad signs in his technique...just needs experience and coaching. This isn't like Jason Smith who struggled mightily understanding his assignment and sliding to the corner. Overall, physically, he's a top 5 talent but he'll need coaching and development. He'll get that here and will have the luxury of starting his career on the Right side while he learns.

Round 1 Pick #22 - TRADE with Jacksonville
Explanation: The Jaguars pick Geno Smith at #2 and opt to trade up into the 1st round to grab a pass rusher or CB at #22. The trade is #22 and #80 for #33, #66 and #97.

Round 2 Pick #1 - DJ Fluker LG Alabama

Explanation: I think Fluker will be available here because I think a lot of teams are going to recognize that he'll have issues staying at RT in the NFL. Fluker has heavy feet and really struggles to slide and cut off the corner. He has to overcompensate and it leaves him vulnerable inside. However, Fluker has the perfect skill-set for the OG position. He is actually surprisingly fast in a straight-line and is an absolutely huge man at just under 6'5" 350ish. He reminds me a lot of Leonard Davis or Nate Newton. Both were not great at OT but became Pro Bowl players when they moved inside. Carl Nicks is another but he moved from OT in college to LG in the NFL. Fluker is a dominating run blocker with great power, the size to engulf most defenders, heavy hands and extremely long arms. His earlier noted speed allows him to get to the second level effectively. He also noticeably finishes his blocks and plays with nastiness. As a pass blocker, he translates extremely well to OG. When he anchors, he's nearly impossible to move, he has very long arms with heavy hands and when he gets his hands on you, you're done. Should be a day 1 starter and a pretty dominating player if he wants to be.

Round 2 Pick #16 - Markus Wheaton WR Oregon State

Explanation: It's no secret that I love Markus Wheaton. I think he has everything needed to be a great NFL WR and I think he would be a great guy to pick up for Sam. His route running still needs development as he takes unnecessary steps or doesn't sink his hips into the route at times. But he has shown noticeable improvement this week and has been arguably the best WR at the Senior Bowl which did not surprise me. While he's a tad undersized at 5'11" 183, I am not too concerned. He'll get outmuscled on shorter crossing routes but there are many examples of great NFL WRs with similar size. Wheaton has something that can't be taught and that's speed. He may not run a 4.2 but he plays fast...like Torrey Smith. And on top of that, he's very comfortable plucking the ball away from his body with his hands. You don't find a lot of speed guys who do that well. I'm also very confident in his route running ability improving immensely with NFL coaching as he has fluid hips and quick feet. Just needs to be worked with on how to use change speeds and use that to setup your routes. All in all, as a player, there are a lot of comparisons out there like Mike Wallace, DeSean Jackson, Santonio Holmes and mine personally which is Torry Holt. But hell, I don't think any of us would be too upset at having any of those WRs on the field for the Rams(speaking only about their on the field play...not their attitude off of it).

Round 3 Pick #2 - DJ Swearinger FS/SS South Carolina

Explanation: I think Swearinger will go in the mid 2nd to early 3rd round range so if he's gone, Bacarri Rambo would be my next pick here. Swearinger is one of those rare do it all type safeties. He can play in the box, match-up in man to man on WRs/TEs/HBs and play in deep coverage. His deep coverage play is probably the weakest part of his game but it's not really a negative. He takes sound angles, has good range and good ball-skills. He just needs more experience back there as he tends to play it safe due to that lack of experience. However, Swearinger is an intimidator at safety. He's one of the hardest hitters in the NCAA and was even suspended a game by the SEC for a hard helmet to helmet hit this year. Swearinger's man cover skills are excellent for a safety because he possesses CB type athleticism and ball-skills. He also has shown the ability to fight off blocks, attack the LOS and get into the back-field. He is my #1 rated safety in this class but I think he'll probably be the 3rd or 4th safety taken. That'll be looked back on as a mistake. This kid is a real deal and the full package. You can man him up on a slot WR, bring him down into the box to stop the run or drop him back into coverage to patrol the deep part of the field. He's reliable in space, he has great instincts and he makes big plays when they're needed the most.

Round 4 Pick #1 - Marcus Lattimore HB South Carolina

Explanation: Lattimore's rehab is going really well. I'm not buying that he'll be ready for the start of the season but he might just be ready if he's placed on the PUP list and brought back around Week 8. I think it's a risk worth taking here. Lattimore is a top 20 talent in this draft when healthy but he's had some horrid luck with injuries the last two years. The 49ers took a similar risk on an extremely talented young HB from Miami who unluckily tore up both his knees while there. That HB very possibly will break the 10,000 career rushing yard mark next year...his name is Frank Gore. Lattimore is an extremely versatile HB who has the ability to catch the ball out of the back-field, pick-up the blitz and even block on running plays. He is one of those guys who can do all the little things and contribute to a team in so many different ways. As a runner, he lacks great top-end speed but has great wiggle for a big HB and runs with significant power. He breaks a lot of tackles, is excellent in short yardage and can really churn out yards. Pairing him with Richardson and Pead would be an ideal situation for the Rams. It would keep Marcus healthier and give the Rams a HB who specializes in all of the things that Richardson and Pead have question marks on.

Round 4 Pick #16 - Sio Moore OLB UConn

Explanation: Moore is a 6'1" 240 pound OLB with long arms(33.75 inches) and big hands(10.25 inches). He has been very productive for UConn over the last 3 years with 268 tackles, 16 sacks, 43 TFLs and 18 PDs. Moore is a very good blitzing LB and recorded 8 sacks as a Senior. He has a high football IQ when rushing the passer and shows understanding of how to counter offensive linemen when they initially beat him with his pass rush moves. He can take on and beat blockers in the running game. And even shows some ability in coverage. While Moore isn't elite as an athlete and doesn't have one standout ability, he's a really solid all around player that would fit in well on our LB core. If we used 3-4 looks, Ryan could use him as a OLB and otherwise, he'd be a 4-3 SLB likely.

Round 5 Pick #16 - B.W. Webb CB William & Mary

Explanation: Webb is a great athlete at the CB position who has fluid hips, great recovery speed and a high football IQ. He has been impressing during Senior Bowl week and might rise above this. However, he's undersized at 5'10" 183 but he can still go up and get the football with his leaping ability. Good ball-skills and overall a very talented small school CB prospect. Would be a great addition for depth and special teams purposes.

Round 6 Pick #16 - Levine Toilolo TE/OT Stanford

Explanation: This was something I was really thinking about but I thought I'd explain why I had OT in there as a possibility. Toilolo is a very good athlete for his size and has a lot of experience blocking inline. We draft him here as a guy who could operate as a our #2 TE and an inline blocker. But I think I'd have Coach Boudreau review some of his tape and watch him out there blocking to see if he has what it takes to play OL. Like I said earlier, Toilolo is a very good athlete for his size. He's over 6'7" 265 with a lot of growth potential and long arms(~35ish inches). If Coach Boudreau thought he has the ability to play the OT spot, he'd be a really interesting project for us. We could have him bulk up to 310ish and if we opt not to re-sign Saffold, he could end up playing the RT spot if we move Lane Johnson to LT. Obviously, that's a lot of ifs. But worst case scenario with this pick, he's just a #2 TE which is just fine with a 5th rounder. But I think there might be some OT potential there. Possibly. He definitely has that type of body and he wouldn't be the first TE to make that transition in the NFL(Jason Peters).

Round 7 Pick #16 - Kemal Ishmael FS/SS UCF

Explanation: Ishmael would be great depth and may even work his way into a starting job. Ishmael is an undersized safety that just seems like a natural football player. He's not a big time hitter although he'll come up with some hard shots but he is a great tackler. He rarely ever misses a tackle and is excellent at making tackles in space. He can effectively play in and out of the box. He has good range and overall athleticism for the position along with solid cover skills. Good instincts too. He doesn't really stand out in any aspect other than tackling but he's a high motor player who seems to not have any glaring holes in his game. Also is an excellent special teams player. You can never have too much depth in the secondary and this kid would provide us much better play off the bench than we've gotten from Craig Dahl.

Notable UDFAs
Greg Reid RS/CB Florida State*
Ryan Aplin QB Arkansas State
Jake Olson OT Central Michigan
Knile Davis HB Arkansas/Spencer Ware HB LSU*
Alex Singleton FB Tulsa
Quinton Dial DT Alabama
D'Aundre Brown LB Tulsa
Tourek Williams DE FIU*

* - Bold denotes my top targets

Anyways, that's it...thoughts?

Lulz, I posted this in NFL News first meaning to put it here and then couldn't figure out why it didn't post in this forum. Finally looked for it and realized it was in the NFL News forum and deleted it. Oops. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First and foremost I like the fact this draft covers pretty much all the bases starting with the o-line. IMO the Rams HAVE to come out this draft with at least starting caliber OG and an OT.

I also agree the Rams are going to have to spend a high draft pick on the Safety position.

And I am coming around to the notion the Rams will probably strongly consider drafting a WR at some point given the s-l-o-w development of Brian Quick and the projected loss of at least one of their two top WRs from last season - Amendola and Gibson.

Lattimore is an interesting pick. I agree the 4th round would be a good spot for this kid given his injury history. The caveat is if Steve Jackson walks the Rams IMO WILL have to grab a RB in the earlier rounds and I can't see them spending a first or second day pick on a guy coming off his second major knee injury.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halradio wrote:
First and foremost I like the fact this draft covers pretty much all the bases starting with the o-line. IMO the Rams HAVE to come out this draft with at least starting caliber OG and an OT.

I also agree the Rams are going to have to spend a high draft pick on the Safety position.

And I am coming around to the notion the Rams will probably strongly consider drafting a WR at some point given the s-l-o-w development of Brian Quick and the projected loss of at least one of their two top WRs from last season - Amendola and Gibson.

Lattimore is an interesting pick. I agree the 4th round would be a good spot for this kid given his injury history. The caveat is if Steve Jackson walks the Rams IMO WILL have to grab a RB in the earlier rounds and I can't see them spending a first or second day pick on a guy coming off his second major knee injury.


I think Richardson and Pead can handle the load until Lattimore is healthy. Too good of value to pass up in the 4th, especially with the encouraging things coming from James Andrews.
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I will probably never agree that Johnson at 16 makes sense but no point in beating a dead horse. Not sure how I feel about Fluker. Do you think he will be better than Warford or do you think Warford would be gone by then?

Like everything else. Though if Lattimore's knee is as good as people say I think he is gone before the 4th.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldnt be my first choice, but wouldnt be my last either.

Aside from Johnson which i too am not sold at 16 yet either... I like what Wheaton offers, but i still have the personal preference for a bigger and more physical WR. It is interesting to hear though that Wheaton beat DeAnthony Thomas in track.

I like the Fluker pick, I too think he could be an elite gaurd and play RT in a pinch if needed.

Nit crazy about the Lattimore pick, I think he will go later than the 4th after hearing everyone saying he needs to take a full year (season) to recover

Everything else looks pretty good... Like I said dont love it but dont hate it either.
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Interesting. I was going to work Fluker into my next mock as well, stating he could be pro bowl caliber at OG, so gotta love that pick.

I'm not really a fan of trade down mocks, as I've stated before. While I don't disagree this could be a strong possibility and I would LOVE it to occur, I just am not a fan of it in mocks. In mocks I tend to want to see what could happen if we are stuck picking where we pick, which is also a high probability. That said, I like the trade down here. I keep getting stuck on our 1st round picks, as it really seems that the true value in this draft is in the 2nd and 3rd, and getting as many of those picks is appealing to me.

I am warming up to Johnson, however, I just don't know how he is going to handle that right side initially. He doesn't appear to have the strength at this point for me to feel confident with him at RT. And with that, I'm not sure we should be picking a semi project with our first pick. I do think Johnson will be a good pro, that much we can agree on. Just don't know that he is perfect for us at this time. I do understand the choice though.

Love the Wheaton pick (starting to realize, he likely won't be around for our pick in the 3rd) and LOVE the Swearinger pick in the 3rd. I'm so so on Lattimore in the 4th, but could be on board with it. Big fan of Sio Moore .

The rest I'm fairly ok with. All in all, solid mock.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it and I think that if they draft Fluker, then they'll get rid of Dahl for salary purposes and have either Turner or Watkins play the other guard position if we don't resign Turner
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DEE RAWL wrote:
Wouldnt be my first choice, but wouldnt be my last either.

Aside from Johnson which i too am not sold at 16 yet either... I like what Wheaton offers, but i still have the personal preference for a bigger and more physical WR. It is interesting to hear though that Wheaton beat DeAnthony Thomas in track.

I like the Fluker pick, I too think he could be an elite gaurd and play RT in a pinch if needed.

Nit crazy about the Lattimore pick, I think he will go later than the 4th after hearing everyone saying he needs to take a full year (season) to recover

Everything else looks pretty good... Like I said dont love it but dont hate it either.


I'm doubting that at this point. It'll depend on how the combine medical goes and his little workout(if he does actually do it) but I have a hard time seeing him fall past the 4th unless the medical is much worse than it's being made out to be.

Hard to believe, though, since James Andrews has spoken up on his behalf.

I think you gotta think past the "greed" of can we get him later to will the pick work out for us. Because if you get to greedy and miss out, I think it's something you'll regret. Do you think the pick will work out?

I think it will. Even if he needs the full year to recover. The Draft is more about 2014-2018 than it is 2013. Patience is always key. Smile

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Interesting. I was going to work Fluker into my next mock as well, stating he could be pro bowl caliber at OG, so gotta love that pick.

I'm not really a fan of trade down mocks, as I've stated before. While I don't disagree this could be a strong possibility and I would LOVE it to occur, I just am not a fan of it in mocks. In mocks I tend to want to see what could happen if we are stuck picking where we pick, which is also a high probability. That said, I like the trade down here. I keep getting stuck on our 1st round picks, as it really seems that the true value in this draft is in the 2nd and 3rd, and getting as many of those picks is appealing to me.

I am warming up to Johnson, however, I just don't know how he is going to handle that right side initially. He doesn't appear to have the strength at this point for me to feel confident with him at RT. And with that, I'm not sure we should be picking a semi project with our first pick. I do think Johnson will be a good pro, that much we can agree on. Just don't know that he is perfect for us at this time. I do understand the choice though.

Love the Wheaton pick (starting to realize, he likely won't be around for our pick in the 3rd) and LOVE the Swearinger pick in the 3rd. I'm so so on Lattimore in the 4th, but could be on board with it. Big fan of Sio Moore .

The rest I'm fairly ok with. All in all, solid mock.


I think the question is, do you think he can play LT? If the answer is yes, I don't see how you can be worried about him at RT. He might not be the best run blocker but his job first and foremost is to keep Sam clean. If he can do that at LT, he can do it at RT. He's not one of those guys who struggles transitioning to each side.

He'll need to add some bulk and strength but I think it's more of an issue than you guys are making it out to be. If he was already 315 with great strength, he'd go top 10. If a guy is going to fall to the mid 1st, you're not going to get a perfect prospect.

ctp2124 wrote:
I will probably never agree that Johnson at 16 makes sense but no point in beating a dead horse. Not sure how I feel about Fluker. Do you think he will be better than Warford or do you think Warford would be gone by then?

Like everything else. Though if Lattimore's knee is as good as people say I think he is gone before the 4th.


Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think the world of the kid and am worried he might not make #16.

Warford very likely will be there. I took Fluker because I think he has more upside and positional versatility. But I'd be fine with Warford there.
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I definitely like the Fluker pick over Warford. Fluker is far more versatile.
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Flatlyner wrote:
I definitely like the Fluker pick over Warford. Flukers is far more versatile.


Yeah Warford did some good things but not nearly how well I thought he would. It would be a dream to have Warmack at LG and Fluker at RG.
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This draft would be a god send for the Rams. I'm not a fan but these are a lot of good guys especially for your team.
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I really like this mock, it addresses many needs. Johnson, Fluker and Wheaton could be a gold mine if they can all live up to their potentials.
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Sounds like some are not convinced of lane johnson like you and me are. I am trying to convince some in dolphin forum this could be our guy if we lose jake long sepecially with us running a ZBS
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fishfan4life wrote:
Sounds like some are not convinced of lane johnson like you and me are. I am trying to convince some in dolphin forum this could be our guy if we lose jake long sepecially with us running a ZBS


He'd be an amazing replacement in the ZBS.
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this would be an amazing draft for the Rams although I'd take Hopkins over Wheaton(he reminds me more of Torrey Smith/Holt than Wheaton does). Although neither of them have the wheels Holt did.
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