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Dogfeet 
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:22 am Post subject: |
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| reckless123 wrote: |
Gronk and Graham are both freaks. I doubt its Watt because if JPP is there, why would Watt be ahead of him? |
Becauase Watt is more athletic. Doing backflips does not equal freak athlete. |
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reckless123 
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| Dogfeet wrote: | | reckless123 wrote: |
Gronk and Graham are both freaks. I doubt its Watt because if JPP is there, why would Watt be ahead of him? |
Becauase Watt is more athletic. Doing backflips does not equal freak athlete. |
I wasnt talking about that, What makes Watt more athletic? I think people are looking too much into production when making their choices. _________________
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DontTazeMeBro 
Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 20522 Location: 321
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| reckless123 wrote: | | Dogfeet wrote: | | reckless123 wrote: |
Gronk and Graham are both freaks. I doubt its Watt because if JPP is there, why would Watt be ahead of him? |
Becauase Watt is more athletic. Doing backflips does not equal freak athlete. |
I wasnt talking about that, What makes Watt more athletic? I think people are looking too much into production when making their choices. |
37 inch vert, 10 foot broad, and 4.21 shuttle at 290 is freakish. Only DE with a more impressive combine performance I can think of is Mario Williams. _________________
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The Cryptkeeper
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| reckless123 wrote: | | Dogfeet wrote: | | reckless123 wrote: |
Gronk and Graham are both freaks. I doubt its Watt because if JPP is there, why would Watt be ahead of him? |
Becauase Watt is more athletic. Doing backflips does not equal freak athlete. |
I wasnt talking about that, What makes Watt more athletic? I think people are looking too much into production when making their choices. |
http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Jason&l=Pierre-Paul&i=8602
http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=JJ&l=Watt&i=6229
Here's their combine results. It's not just on field production- in the 8 categories listed, JPP only beat Watt in 2 of them, despite Watt being 20 pounds bigger. Watt posted better explosion, strength, and agility numbers.
And that's taking nothing away from JPP, who is a great athlete himself. |
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reckless123 
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| The Cryptkeeper wrote: | | reckless123 wrote: | | Dogfeet wrote: | | reckless123 wrote: |
Gronk and Graham are both freaks. I doubt its Watt because if JPP is there, why would Watt be ahead of him? |
Becauase Watt is more athletic. Doing backflips does not equal freak athlete. |
I wasnt talking about that, What makes Watt more athletic? I think people are looking too much into production when making their choices. |
http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Jason&l=Pierre-Paul&i=8602
http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=JJ&l=Watt&i=6229
Here's their combine results. It's not just on field production- in the 8 categories listed, JPP only beat Watt in 2 of them, despite Watt being 20 pounds bigger. Watt posted better explosion, strength, and agility numbers.
And that's taking nothing away from JPP, who is a great athlete himself. |
Fair enough. _________________
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DreDay80
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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How? He doesn't have the speed. |
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csf9pj
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Russell Wilson could easily be number 1. Got drafted in two pro leagues |
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Jaytrajik 
Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 13235 Location: Odessa, TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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"lacks overall wow factor"
"will never become an elite sack artist"
I bet he wishes he could take those back  _________________
"Tackling is a lost art because thanks to the CBA, nobody can practice it anymore." |
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Plat
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Watt should be on there...Bush is top 10 but not top 5...Julio Jones deserves a mention too _________________
| baconrad3 wrote: | | You mean Matt Stafford aka Stat Padford? |
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Bodhi
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Jaytrajik wrote: |
"lacks overall wow factor"
"will never become an elite sack artist"
I bet he wishes he could take those back  |
I honestly wonder if Watt isn't considered an elite athlete because he's white. _________________ 49ers |
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Superman(DH23) 
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 16427 Location: Abdi on the sick sig
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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I'm guessing #1 is the guy who qualified for the Olympics in High School, and is going to be named ROTY in a week. _________________
| OneBadCat wrote: | | Ahah Okay first of all Gamble was lost to IR this year but when healthy he proved to be 2nd only to Revis last season. |
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vikingsrule
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Id take Peterson and Harvin over Reggie Bush as pure athletes go. |
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DetroitSpirit
Joined: 25 Feb 2012 Posts: 2932 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| csf9pj wrote: | | Russell Wilson could easily be number 1. Got drafted in two pro leagues |
So did Matt Cassel...
Matt Cassel for president! _________________
| Vikefan79 wrote: | | And you know what about the playoffs and/or quarterbacks being a Detroit fan? |
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The Cryptkeeper
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | I'm guessing #1 is the guy who qualified for the Olympics in High School, and is going to be named ROTY in a week. |
I'm already bummed enough about his knee getting shredded, getting #1 in a list like this would just be insult to injury. |
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Selkiesxx 
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| dbronx42 wrote: | | JJ Watt should be on the list before Reggie Bush... I don't even know why Reggie is even sniffing this list? What is it based on his career at USC? |
Not to be a homer, but Julius Peppers should make it on this list, too.
I can understand he's getting older though so people tend to overlook him, however who's going to make it between Patrick Peterson, Adrian Peterson or J.J. Watt? _________________ Newest Mock Draft .:. 1.11.13
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