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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's the Pwny trade being worked on?
And yeah, Hart is looking like a mid first rounder for sure.


He won't make it that far.

Right. Which is why I said there wouldn't be any great prospects at that position past the first round......


Right so, take the elite player, at the position we have the greatest need first? and double back for the other position at the end of the 1st? win/win

Are you saying you want Owen Hart at 2?

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Yes, then get a Matt Hardy, Goldberg, John Cena later in the round.
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Its A Sabotage wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
What's the Pwny trade being worked on?
And yeah, Hart is looking like a mid first rounder for sure.


He won't make it that far.

Right. Which is why I said there wouldn't be any great prospects at that position past the first round......


Right so, take the elite player, at the position we have the greatest need first? and double back for the other position at the end of the 1st? win/win

Are you saying you want Owen Hart at 2?

PS someone PM the iPwn info


Yes, then get a Matt Hardy, Goldberg, John Cena later in the round.


Matt Hardy is far too overvalued on this site to fall to our next selection
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Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
What's the Pwny trade being worked on?
And yeah, Hart is looking like a mid first rounder for sure.


He won't make it that far.

Right. Which is why I said there wouldn't be any great prospects at that position past the first round......


Right so, take the elite player, at the position we have the greatest need first? and double back for the other position at the end of the 1st? win/win

Are you saying you want Owen Hart at 2?

PS someone PM the iPwn info


Yes, then get a Matt Hardy, Goldberg, John Cena later in the round.


Matt Hardy is far too overvalued on this site to fall to our next selection


Good, then give me an equal value in Goldberg. Laughing
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Its A Sabotage wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
What's the Pwny trade being worked on?
And yeah, Hart is looking like a mid first rounder for sure.


He won't make it that far.

Right. Which is why I said there wouldn't be any great prospects at that position past the first round......


Right so, take the elite player, at the position we have the greatest need first? and double back for the other position at the end of the 1st? win/win

Are you saying you want Owen Hart at 2?

PS someone PM the iPwn info


Yes, then get a Matt Hardy, Goldberg, John Cena later in the round.

Not a fan of Hart at 2.
Seems like a reach.
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Its A Sabotage wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
What's the Pwny trade being worked on?
And yeah, Hart is looking like a mid first rounder for sure.


He won't make it that far.

Right. Which is why I said there wouldn't be any great prospects at that position past the first round......


Right so, take the elite player, at the position we have the greatest need first? and double back for the other position at the end of the 1st? win/win

Are you saying you want Owen Hart at 2?

PS someone PM the iPwn info


Yes, then get a Matt Hardy, Goldberg, John Cena later in the round.


Matt Hardy is far too overvalued on this site to fall to our next selection


Good, then give me an equal value in Goldberg. Laughing


I mean either way you look at it, we are going to fix the 2 areas of need in the first 2 picks, going Owen Hart, makes everything come together.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Owen Hart is as good as we think he can be, it won't be a reach. Look at a player at the same position that was viewed as a reach last year from Kevin Nash's school.
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2009 FFMD-I Draft (First Round)

1 LIONS -- Matthew Stafford, QB Georgia ($5,000,000)
2 RAMS -- Michael Crabtree, WR Texas Tech ($4,600,000)
3 CHIEFS -- Aaron Curry, LB Wake Forest ($4,250,000)
4 SEAHAWKS -- Eugene Monroe, OT Virginia ($4,000,000)
5 BROWNS -- B.J. Raji, NT Boston College ($3,800,000)
6 BENGALS -- Andre Smith, OT Alabama ($3,650,000)
7 RAIDERS -- Jason Smith, OT Baylor ($3,500,000)
8 JAGUARS -- Michael Oher, OT Mississippi ($3,300,000)
9 PACKERS -- Malcolm Jenkins, CB Ohio State ($3,150,000)
10 49ERS -- Everette Brown, DE/OLB Florida State ($3,000,000)
11 BILLS -- Brian Orakpo, DE Texas ($2,900,000)
12 BRONCOS -- Rey Maualuga, ILB USC ($2,800,000)
13 REDSKINS --Eben Britton, OT Arizona ($2,700,000)
14 SAINTS -- Sean Smith, CB Utah ($2,600,000)
15 TEXANS -- Jeremy Maclin, WR Missouri ($2,500,000)
16 CHARGERS -- Tyson Jackson, DE LSU ($2,400,000)
17 CARDINALS [F/JETS] -- Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB Penn State ($2,300,000)
18 PANTHERS [F/BEARS]-- Peria Jerry, DT Mississippi ($2,200,000)
19 BUCCANEERS -- Ron Brace, DT Boston College ($2,100,000)
20 LIONS -- Vontae Davis, CB Illinois ($2,000,000)
21 EAGLES-- Brandon Pettigrew, TE Oklahoma State ($1,950,000)
22 CARDINALS [F/VIKINGS] -- Knowshon Moreno, RB Georgia ($1,850,000)
23 PATRIOTS -- Percy Harvin, WR Florida ($1,800,000)
24 FALCONS -- Larry English, DE Northern Illinois ($1,700,000)
25 DOLPHINS -- Hakeem Nicks, WR North Carolina ($1,600,000)
26 RAVENS -- D.J. Moore, CB Vanderbilt ($1,500,000)
27 COLTS-- Alphonso Smith, CB Wake Forest ($1,400,000)
28 EAGLES -- Kenny Britt, WR Rutgers ($1,300,000)
29 GIANTS -- Darius Heyward-Bey, WR Maryland ($1,200,000)
30 TITANS -- James Laurinaitis, MLB Ohio State ($1,100,000)
31 JETS [F/CARDINALS] -- Mark Sanchez, QB USC ($1,050,000)
32 STEELERS -- Duke Robinson, OG Oklahoma ($1,000,000)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Sean Smith selection is probably the biggest reach I've seen in FFMD "live" (with hindsight Duke Robinson at #32 was pretty bad). I remember the Saints took him because they didn't have another selection until the fourth round so they just took the guy they liked the most and knew they couldn't get without a second round selection lolz

Even all this aside doe, I think by April Owen Hart will go pretty high. A lot have him going high now, even (though not #2 high obviously)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fine with the new trade. Free cap space and he won't be the answer for the future anyway.

And Owen Hart is definitely worth a top pick. Highest upside of anyone in this draft and he fits our scheme perfectly. Then we can hopefully get John Cena or Sabu with the next pick.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
That Sean Smith selection is probably the biggest reach I've seen in FFMD "live" (with hindsight Duke Robinson at #32 was pretty bad). I remember the Saints took him because they didn't have another selection until the fourth round so they just took the guy they liked the most and knew they couldn't get without a second round selection lolz

Even all this aside doe, I think by April Owen Hart will go pretty high. A lot have him going high now, even (though not #2 high obviously)



Owen Hart @ 2 is rediculous, I understand liking a prospect and taking a chance, but let's get real. Just look @ the guys stats, and I know stats aren't everything, but come on. It's not like teams where game planning to stop him, they couldn't there was to much talent on the field with him. He was rarely doubled and still didn't put up numbers, nor change games.
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Peria Jerry is the easy over drafted.
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Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
That Sean Smith selection is probably the biggest reach I've seen in FFMD "live" (with hindsight Duke Robinson at #32 was pretty bad). I remember the Saints took him because they didn't have another selection until the fourth round so they just took the guy they liked the most and knew they couldn't get without a second round selection lolz

Even all this aside doe, I think by April Owen Hart will go pretty high. A lot have him going high now, even (though not #2 high obviously)



Owen Hart @ 2 is rediculous, I understand liking a prospect and taking a chance, but let's get real. Just look @ the guys stats, and I know stats aren't everything, but come on. It's not like teams where game planning to stop him, they couldn't there was to much talent on the field with him. He was rarely doubled and still didn't put up numbers, nor change games.


Stats don't tell how he was used incorrectly every game until the last game...If you look at the position, how he plays it, he fits what we need, and is in every way worth the pick, if you are evaluating him, and not the box score.
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Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
That Sean Smith selection is probably the biggest reach I've seen in FFMD "live" (with hindsight Duke Robinson at #32 was pretty bad). I remember the Saints took him because they didn't have another selection until the fourth round so they just took the guy they liked the most and knew they couldn't get without a second round selection lolz

Even all this aside doe, I think by April Owen Hart will go pretty high. A lot have him going high now, even (though not #2 high obviously)


Yep and I think once the more people do research and see the fit with Hart they will start mocking him to us.

To piggyback on what Sabo is saying... he was asked to play contain a ton. Stay in his lane and not let any mobile qbs outside of the pocket. He was let out of his cage in the bowl game and he caused havoc all game.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its A Sabotage wrote:
corry wrote:
Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
That Sean Smith selection is probably the biggest reach I've seen in FFMD "live" (with hindsight Duke Robinson at #32 was pretty bad). I remember the Saints took him because they didn't have another selection until the fourth round so they just took the guy they liked the most and knew they couldn't get without a second round selection lolz

Even all this aside doe, I think by April Owen Hart will go pretty high. A lot have him going high now, even (though not #2 high obviously)



Owen Hart @ 2 is rediculous, I understand liking a prospect and taking a chance, but let's get real. Just look @ the guys stats, and I know stats aren't everything, but come on. It's not like teams where game planning to stop him, they couldn't there was to much talent on the field with him. He was rarely doubled and still didn't put up numbers, nor change games.


Stats don't tell how he was used incorrectly every game until the last game...If you look at the position, how he plays it, he fits what we need, and is in every way worth the pick, if you are evaluating him, and not the box score.



I get all that, but why not got with the best of both worlds? Maria Kanellis is a boss, with a much higher floor. Not to mention the guy was double and triple teamed on most plays and still dominated. At the end of the day this is your show I'm just along for the ride. Just wanted to put in my two cents, and I am pretty hammered.

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Peria Jerry is the easy over drafted.


I'm talking as in seen as reaches at the time. At the time, Peria Jerry went where people thought he should. Duke Robinson with hindsight was much worse. At least Jerry has done SOMETHING.
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